I am a newbie looking for my first experience. Any tips on how to get started and any do's and dont's? Thanks in advance.
Look at the help center with the lifesaver and then also look at the last several pages of posts here. If you have more questions after that, just ask. Happy hobbying.
what is lifesaver and where can that be found?
Click your back button one time from this page, to get back to the main newbie page. Look to the top right of the page. You will see a red and white life preserver. Under it are links to the "self help center" and "discussion board policies." It is actually on all the discusson boards (not just the newbie board)
helping a newbie but we prefer you try to help yourself first by doing a search for the topic you are interested in.
Watch the discussion boards for a bit. Most of it is drivel and nonsense, but you can learn a thing or two...especially about etiquette.
Pay for a month of VIP. Compare ads with reviews. As a newb, see women with reviews. You don't know what your doing yet, and risk getting pinched or scammed. Seeing providers with reviews will help eliminate that.
Also, as a newb, high end girls don't want to see you unless you have references. Many of the experienced GFE providers will only see guys who have been verified. Some are Newbie friendly, but may still ask you to provide personal information for screening.
Joining a verification site like p411 will be helpful, but I know I had to have 2 references to join...It took a few months for me to find 2 girls that would see newbs that were not 1 week wonders.
Be respectful, clean for your session, be on time (don't expect she will be...they are still women, deal with it) and make sure your donation is correct. Don't try to negotiate price or push for services that the provider doesn't like to do. Like in civie life, each lady is different.
Many Backpage ads are full of fake pics and upsell artists. Get over it now...your a newbie, and shit happens. Using your big head instead of your little head will help you avoid these issues. Have you ever heard the expression don't grocery shop on an empty stomach? It applies here as well.
GET A BURN PHONE!!!!
SIGN UP A BURN EMAIL!!!!
Do not engage in explicit talk over the phone, text, or email. 99% of all providers will end the conversation there...and the one's who don't with a newbie are probably too risky (attracting LE) for you to see... remember, the donation is for time only. Whatever happens during that time is between 2 consenting adults. Nothing more nothing less.
Read every review before seeing a provider...It will set up your level of expectation. There is TONS of variety available...if after reading her reviews, you don't really like what you hear, then don't bother seeing her...you will only set yourself up for a disappointing date.
Review your date...it gets you 15 free VIP days, and helps out the provider and the next guy that would like to see her.
The scoring system is subjective, and as a newb, you will want to dish out a higher score, as do all other newbs. Read the self help section to learn how to write a review properly. Because of this...READ THE ACTUAL REVIEWS! Don't just look at the score.
That is all for now. Good luck
-- Modified on 12/30/2012 10:25:20 PM
thanks for the info, that makes sense. I signed up for VIP and have read about the dangers of B.P.
Is it a huge mistake to give out your real cell phone #?
Pay for a month of VIP. Compare ads with reviews. As a newb, see women with reviews. You don't know what your doing yet, and risk getting pinched or scammed. Seeing providers with reviews will help eliminate that.
Also, as a newb, high end girls don't want to see you unless you have references. Many of the experienced GFE providers will only see guys who have been verified. Some are Newbie friendly, but may still ask you to provide personal information for screening.
Joining a verification site like p411 will be helpful, but I know I had to have 2 references to join...It took a few months for me to find 2 girls that would see newbs that were not 1 week wonders.
Be respectful, clean for your session, be on time (don't expect she will be...they are still women, deal with it) and make sure your donation is correct. Don't try to negotiate price or push for services that the provider doesn't like to do. Like in civie life, each lady is different.
Many Backpage ads are full of fake pics and upsell artists. Get over it now...your a newbie, and shit happens. Using your big head instead of your little head will help you avoid these issues. Have you ever heard the expression don't grocery shop on an empty stomach? It applies here as well.
GET A BURN PHONE!!!!
SIGN UP A BURN EMAIL!!!!
Do not engage in explicit talk over the phone, text, or email. 99% of all providers will end the conversation there...and the one's who don't with a newbie are probably too risky (attracting LE) for you to see... remember, the donation is for time only. Whatever happens during that time is between 2 consenting adults. Nothing more nothing less.
Read every review before seeing a provider...It will set up your level of expectation. There is TONS of variety available...if after reading her reviews, you don't really like what you hear, then don't bother seeing her...you will only set yourself up for a disappointing date.
Review your date...it gets you 15 free VIP days, and helps out the provider and the next guy that would like to see her.
The scoring system is subjective, and as a newb, you will want to dish out a higher score, as do all other newbs. Read the self help section to learn how to write a review properly. Because of this...READ THE ACTUAL REVIEWS! Don't just look at the score.
That is all for now. Good luck
-- Modified on 12/30/2012 10:25:20 PM
the safest way to go. Register it online from a public computer so it remains totally untraceable. Leave no tracks.
That make sense. If I accidentally gave out the main one once, what's the risk?
Would you please define "public computer". Hotels make you scan your credit card to utilize the comps in their business center, public libraries require you to have and scan your library card to use their puteys and public Wi-fi access anywhere, just turns my stomach.
Please elucidate on this valuable alternative.
Regards,
Desi
And basically that means that ANYTHING transmitted over the internet is not yours, because the service provider owns those lines and has access to anything that is transmitted over those lines. So anything over the internet and email...well, there is a record of it somewhere now, and it can be accessed by the service provider.
The key is to assess the level of risk you are comfortable taking, honestly.
Phones are a different story. You can buy a prepaid cell phone in a store with cash, and then pay for refill cards in cash. No one knows the phone belongs to you, and no one knows that you are using minutes that you paid for.
Almost all of the prepaid phones I ve used can be activated by calling with them. No internet needed, and paying cash helps.
Please elucidate on this valuable alternative.
Regards,
Desi
There are several services online where you can pay about $20, input a cell phone number, and then get the name of the bill holder.
So just know that someone who has your number can easily reverse-engineer who you are that way.
I use a google voice phone number, works well with having to communicate both voice and text.
It's not exactly as discreet as you think it is. Your GV number is attached to a Gmail account, which of course can be traced back to your IP address, which tells anyone exactly who you are.
It's not that easy for the average person to find all this information, but GV is hardly discreet.
I have to state the obvious though.
You said it requires you to "provide personal information for screening"
Now, I don't know about you, but what do you say if they ask for your full name? Should I walk away the moment they ask for my full name?
My rule of thumb is that if the girl is very well-reviewed and has never had any complaints about being psychotic, spiteful, vengeful, etc., I am inclined to provide my real name if she cannot screen me through other means.
But I am single, so I don't face the same risks as some others.
In order to spend time with some of the top (read: best looking and popular) providers, don't you have to be screened *somehow*? I suppose the only other option is to see several girls who don't require screening, but I'd be inclined not do to that. I would think the ones who have been around for awhile probably aren't looking to screw (no pun intended) with their clients.
But I am single, so I don't face the same risks as some others.
But there are many ways to screen.
Do you understand what screening is? It's just the girl figuring out that you are who you say you are, and that you are not LE. It's about finding out that you are a respectful client and not a guy who tries to do shit to disrespect the provider.
And providers find that out by getting your personal information (leverage on you in case you do pull something stupid--a cheap insurance policy, if you will) and by contacting other providers who have seen you and who are well-established.