Don't use CC anywhere you're not supposed to be.
Don't leave GPS locations you are not supposed to be.
Don't use EZ Pass places you should not be.
Don't use friends as cover stories...
Don't ever tell anyone (except here).
Don't suddenly devolupe habits that are in the cheaters handbook... check recent articles in women's mags about signs of cheating husbands.
Wash hands, face, privates before leaving incall. Women can smell sex blocks away.
Yes on hobby phone. Clear all calls before you leave the incall... Turn off when not in use. Hide it well. (You'll need to look up phone numbers to set a date... don't leave numbers lying around. Could drop in public trash at hotel.) For gosh sake HIDE it well!
Yes. Hobby email. Not linked to your regular email.
YES, incall.
Yes, gradually increase & accumulate excess pocket cash, so you don't have bank W/D to line up with your missing time.
Getting a hobby she doesn't like particularly but you do... and you do it... most of the time... Be really careful about where you are stories. OK if your wife also has hobbies you don't care for. Actually gives spouces something to talk about when they are together.
Your play time may be more random... don't get compelled to hobby too much... I love it when she goes to her Mother's for the weekend! A couple of times a year...
I was found out about a year and a half ago and basically survived the backlash, and things are about back to normal. After this time I am considering stepping back into the hobby.
I did many stupid things that resulted in getting caught. Basically leaving e-mail open on phone, which lead to a huge paper trail that pretty much had it all laid out. The TV show "Person of Interest" is not that far off. And companies and hotels will give a spouse pretty much any and all info they ask for.
During my two year hobby life, I never could bring myself to do an incall, felt too unsafe...........in my mind. All my hobby was done by me as "outcall". I would either while traveling or in town get a hotel room and schedule a date for that day. Always felt it was on my "turf" and a bit safer. Worked good for two years. The problem was the paper trail that this left,and man I could go on forever about that paper trail.
So my questions for anyone that cares to share would be what way can I get back in that would leave virtually no paper trail, yet remain safe?? Local incalls, "visiting" ladies (did this twice and always felt there was a "manager" in the room next door), sheesh I dont know. Help, ladies or gentleman.
You are going to have to get over your suspicions and go with research instead. While it's true that your average $150 back page hooker may have a pimp in the next room that is not the case at all with the multitudes of reputable providers. Read reviews, do your research. In calls are perfectly safe.
Just remember to close your browser and clear your history after you are done with your research...
-- Modified on 7/12/2012 5:11:52 PM
...I'll start with a list.
1. Hobby phone (TracPhone) bought with cash, without giving any personal info ( name, address, etc.)
2. Don't use credit cards to pay for hobby expenses.
3. Do in calls. Use TER to check out the provider so you don't have that "manager" somewhere feeling.
4. Get hobby e-mail in a false name. Delete, delete, delete after info is used and no longer needed.
5. Don't do things on you computer that others can find. Set for private browsing. Keep no history. Clear the cache.
6. Don't use your TER handle for any other user name etc.
Not a definitive list but a good start.
Look back on this, the newbie board, for the many discussions on this topic. Use the search function and set the days to 300 or more.
-- Modified on 7/12/2012 8:55:25 PM
Don't use CC anywhere you're not supposed to be.
Don't leave GPS locations you are not supposed to be.
Don't use EZ Pass places you should not be.
Don't use friends as cover stories...
Don't ever tell anyone (except here).
Don't suddenly devolupe habits that are in the cheaters handbook... check recent articles in women's mags about signs of cheating husbands.
Wash hands, face, privates before leaving incall. Women can smell sex blocks away.
Yes on hobby phone. Clear all calls before you leave the incall... Turn off when not in use. Hide it well. (You'll need to look up phone numbers to set a date... don't leave numbers lying around. Could drop in public trash at hotel.) For gosh sake HIDE it well!
Yes. Hobby email. Not linked to your regular email.
YES, incall.
Yes, gradually increase & accumulate excess pocket cash, so you don't have bank W/D to line up with your missing time.
Getting a hobby she doesn't like particularly but you do... and you do it... most of the time... Be really careful about where you are stories. OK if your wife also has hobbies you don't care for. Actually gives spouces something to talk about when they are together.
Your play time may be more random... don't get compelled to hobby too much... I love it when she goes to her Mother's for the weekend! A couple of times a year...
they are so obvious, I am pissed daily at getting caught. You name so many simple ways of getting caught, that dont come to mind. Smart phone photos with location turned on.....I once drove two days with the valet parking tag still on my mirror, it was small and hid behind the mirror. I use CC's and made cash withdrawals, because my wife hadnt been a part of that stuff for years.....until she needed to then it is just as much her property as mine.
Never told a friend and still havent to this day/havent told anyone ever.
yep I developed all the cheater signs.....no sex with her....new clothes, working out, etc STUPID stuff.
and yes a woman can smell sex blocks away.weird huh.
Used hobby phone....bought with cash, and refilled, hid well BUT saved some numbers in it....not good.
used hobby email with same monikor as forum names....search and find.
So a big question about incall......I picture some apartment with men coming and going regularly and some nosey neighbor calling the popo to have a look and that would be the time I would try this.
LADIES, how do you feel about renting a hotel room and getting that back as part of the deal??
thanks for the reminders.....
Don't leave GPS locations you are not supposed to be.
Don't use EZ Pass places you should not be.
Don't use friends as cover stories...
Don't ever tell anyone (except here).
Don't suddenly devolupe habits that are in the cheaters handbook... check recent articles in women's mags about signs of cheating husbands.
Wash hands, face, privates before leaving incall. Women can smell sex blocks away.
Yes on hobby phone. Clear all calls before you leave the incall... Turn off when not in use. Hide it well. (You'll need to look up phone numbers to set a date... don't leave numbers lying around. Could drop in public trash at hotel.) For gosh sake HIDE it well!
Yes. Hobby email. Not linked to your regular email.
YES, incall.
Yes, gradually increase & accumulate excess pocket cash, so you don't have bank W/D to line up with your missing time.
Getting a hobby she doesn't like particularly but you do... and you do it... most of the time... Be really careful about where you are stories. OK if your wife also has hobbies you don't care for. Actually gives spouces something to talk about when they are together.
Your play time may be more random... don't get compelled to hobby too much... I love it when she goes to her Mother's for the weekend! A couple of times a year...
I almost think men ACT like they've done something wrong and get protective too easily. If you're freaking out because I want to look up the restaurant on your phone on our way to dinner, I'm going to start looking for things.
Do your 'visiting' on the way home from work and claim you stopped for a drink/worked late/had a meeting, but only IF they ask and hit some traffic. Saying you 'visited' a friend out of the blue that you never see stands out and becomes a curiosity. Seeing as you've been caught before, that'll pop up on the radar as suspicious quickly. When looking at email on your phone, don't use an app. Just go to the mobile site and be sure to log out. Ideally, keep the same domain name as you usually have, because if you're suddenly going to hotmail over gmail -the jig is up.
Ideally, hobby on a random day off. Try taking half a day off so you still show up at home at the regular time, but that only works if you're salaried. If your take home pay changed in the joint bank account, she'll wonder. Schedule your Drs' appointments and your hobbying for the same days, so you have an excuse to get out early.
You could try getting a different credit card and make sure it's set up for electronic billing(or use a prepaid GreenDot card, which is what I prefer). Pay it off with normal pocket money. Obviously, don't keep it in your wallet. Memorize the number and you could get a safe deposit box for it and your hobby phone. Try explaining it away as 'for emergencies' or 'christmas gifts'. A good place to hide it is under the spare tire in your trunk. I've duct taped surplus cash to the back of a dresser drawer in an envelope just in case I was broken into, you could try that for the hobby phone and a credit card.
Some hotels allow you to pay cash, just need a card on file. Try that with the spare card, so if for some reason they did put a charge thru it won't be a catastrophe.
This is a big one!!
-When showering at an incall, USE THE SAME SOAP YOU DO AT HOME. Coming home smelling like Bath & Body Works Velvet Rose when you always use Irish Spring.. oops. If you leave the house wearing hair product (gel, whatever)and come home with freshly washed hair.. oops. Pick up travel containers at any CVS. (altho when I had an incall, I always carried mens shampoo/body wash, spray deodorant, hair gel and travel toothbrushes, maybe other providers do the same?)
Visiting Incalls is great, but be careful if they have a pet and your SO is allergic. Aim for providers in condos and apartments, where coming and going is overlooked and if something comes up and you have to leave, they won't make a scene because the neighbors are so close. (obviously, you won't know this until you show up, but if you find a girl you like that's in a busy complex, stick with her)
As a provider, I don't book the room. Special circumstances on my end (divorce), but for other ladies the reasoning might be that if you didn't show up, they are now in the hole for the room and have to scramble to cover that. They are in this to make money, so going out on a limb for someone they've never met.. The risk alone might not be worth it. Now, you may find a provider that after a few visits is okay with picking up the room tab. Same as with a civvie woman - build that trust and stick with something that works. Some gentlemen enjoy visiting new and different providers frequently, but that increases the risk.
Send me a PM if you'd like, I have a bit of experience on both sides of the fence.
