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EdrienneCole See my TER Reviews 655 reads
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When I travel, I require a gent to secure his date with a 50% non-refundable deposit.  If he's not comfortable with this, he can remain "penciled in" instead of having his preferred date/time "in ink".  If another gent is willing to send a deposit for that same date/time, the date goes to him instead and I try to find another time to see the penciled in gent (which may or may not be available).  Deposits can either be made via bank wire or FedEx'd cash/cashier's cheque to a business account completely untraceable to adult interests.

My entry level date is 2hrs and a tad pricier than most, I screen heavily and I am very low volume so it's not as if I have a que of gents lined up to fill a NCNS/cancellation slot.  But then again, there is also a reason my reviews/rating are what they are.... ;-)  I truly see my dates as just that, dates; and the time/energy I devote to each is something works both in my favor (for the satisfaction and enjoyment of my friends) as well as against me (placing me at more risk in a NC/NS situation than if I were a turn-style operator).

Yes, there is risk to the gent sending a deposit.  There is also risk to me if I don't have a deposit. The last three trips I've taken I've had 1-2 gents each time who declined the deposit - wonder of wonders, each of them cancelled/NCNS!  It simply would be foolish for me to NOT request deposits.  If a man can't afford to risk the deposit, he should seriously consider whether a less expensive/accountable companion might suit him better.  

I have cancelled once on a secured date in 7 years (needed to travel across the country for a relative with cancer) and refunded the 13k deposit in its entirety despite the gent's generous offer to keep the travel expenses I'd already incurred.  As for non-secured dates, I think I've cancelled (NEVER NC/NS ever) maybe 4 times in 7 years and each time I sent a short list of alternative ladies the gent could see.

The bottom line is that for every gent out there, there is a lady who's looks, deportment and business practices fit with what he is looking for.  If you are not comfortable with any aspect of seeing a lady, do the two of you a favor and see someone else! ;-)

Big time PS is coming to my area and I am trying to book a meeting.  However she requests a deposit to hold the booking.  Is this normal?  I have seen 4 girls in the past and have never had to do this although they were not PS's.  Also kind of leary giving out my CC info.  Just wanted some thoughts from the experienced hobbiest out there.

Thanks


Yes, there are many hobbyists who have given deposits on their credit card and have never had an issue. But if YOU are not comfortable giving your credit card information to a lady, then do not. The lady has every right to run her business as she sees fit and you have every right to decline to do business with her and move on. Like all things in the hobby, comfort by both parties is paramount. So if you do like how a particular lady screens or in this case requires a deposit, do not partake.

I am not sure there is a distinction between Porn Stars and non Porn Stars with respect to deposit requirements. Most ladies who require a deposit a head of time are doing so because they want to make sure (especially if its a longer date) that the hobbyist will in fact keep his appointment. There is no correlation, in least in my experience, between requiring a deposit before a session and being a porn star. It just depends on how the lady chooses to run her business.

She might use something called "greendot". It is a prepaid cc that YOU an place money on simply by going to your local drugstore or whatever and paying a prepaid cc to place on her account..go to greendot.com and then ask her if she might be using something like this..I know most of the women I have met, including myself, use this method..protects us both

but only do what YOU are comfortable with

be safe and have fun !

She still has his money, and he is SOL if she no shows.

Like many guys I would never send a deposit, unless I was asking her to expend actual cash on my behalf, like booking a room for me, or something of that nature, which truthfully I would never do.

this..If you go with a well-reviewed woman, chances are this will not happen. If he wants to see that particular girl, he will have to go by her ways..otherwise, simply move on to someone else..there is a 50/50 chance of everything in this business..NCNS, etc..

thats why the reviews right? so no drama happens?

This method, transferring cash to HER GreenDot, protects his ID and his reservation but it breaks down if she no shows or even allows him to cancel with plenty of advanced notice and no loss of deposit penalty. Even if it is her honest intention to refund his deposit, how does he get it back without giving out personal info?

He could get his own GreenDot card and she could make a cash transfer to HIS GreenDot card but, if I understand things correctly, GreenDot cards require a real name and a real SSN to be registered and activated. Now he has a GreenDot card with a cash transfer from an unnamed person in Las Vegas or wherever she is. Well, I guess that's relatively harmless. "I won a bet from a buddy of mine who went to LV and he insisted on paying that way. His name? Gee, I don't remember his name."

He could get his own GreenDot card and pay the deposit with that except that GreenDot requires real name and SSN (I THINK).

If the deposit isn't too steep ($50 v 50%) maybe he can afford to just write it off if something happens in which case the transfer to her GreenDot seems "safe".  (Although he's still probably on the drug store surveillance camera making the transfer from Maine or Florida or wherever HE is ... I think I've been watching too much CSI.)



Ripped_Van_Winkle634 reads

Stiffed out of their deposits. Some have even been stiffed by "reputable" providers.

Giving out credit card info is also not advisable. However, at least with a credit card you have the ability to make a charge-back if the provider no shows or cancels on you.

Either way, the risk is yours to take.

I would only consider using a "real" credit card that affords me recourse in the event of a no show.

For married guys, this obviously is not an option, and I would not consider sending funds n advance to even the best reviewed provider.

she is probably out of my comfort price range.  So, no deposits from me.  And I damn sure would not give out a CC number, to ANYONE!!!!!

Swim

Like others have said, there is little/no recourse for you to get your money back if she doesn't hold up her end of the deal. Some clients (most, perhaps) will never feel comfortable enough with the idea of losing that money to give a deposit -- whether via a credit card, Green Dot, or some other means.

I would be more cautious with giving out credit card information than using another, finite, anonymous method like Green Dot. While you can't dispute a Green Dot "transaction" like you could with a credit card, you also have 0% chance of falling victim to an identity theft scam or having fraudulent charges drafted against your card.

Regardless of the particulars, whether or not to give a lady (PS or otherwise) a deposit is up to you. If it gives you serious pause, don't do it!

shudaknownbetter683 reads

I guess I would if I was requesting her to travel...  to cover her costs...  but I'm not in that circumstance.   Than would be an extended date (overnight or weekend).  I would not propose an extended date without a number of shorter dates.
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When I travel, I require a gent to secure his date with a 50% non-refundable deposit.  If he's not comfortable with this, he can remain "penciled in" instead of having his preferred date/time "in ink".  If another gent is willing to send a deposit for that same date/time, the date goes to him instead and I try to find another time to see the penciled in gent (which may or may not be available).  Deposits can either be made via bank wire or FedEx'd cash/cashier's cheque to a business account completely untraceable to adult interests.

My entry level date is 2hrs and a tad pricier than most, I screen heavily and I am very low volume so it's not as if I have a que of gents lined up to fill a NCNS/cancellation slot.  But then again, there is also a reason my reviews/rating are what they are.... ;-)  I truly see my dates as just that, dates; and the time/energy I devote to each is something works both in my favor (for the satisfaction and enjoyment of my friends) as well as against me (placing me at more risk in a NC/NS situation than if I were a turn-style operator).

Yes, there is risk to the gent sending a deposit.  There is also risk to me if I don't have a deposit. The last three trips I've taken I've had 1-2 gents each time who declined the deposit - wonder of wonders, each of them cancelled/NCNS!  It simply would be foolish for me to NOT request deposits.  If a man can't afford to risk the deposit, he should seriously consider whether a less expensive/accountable companion might suit him better.  

I have cancelled once on a secured date in 7 years (needed to travel across the country for a relative with cancer) and refunded the 13k deposit in its entirety despite the gent's generous offer to keep the travel expenses I'd already incurred.  As for non-secured dates, I think I've cancelled (NEVER NC/NS ever) maybe 4 times in 7 years and each time I sent a short list of alternative ladies the gent could see.

The bottom line is that for every gent out there, there is a lady who's looks, deportment and business practices fit with what he is looking for.  If you are not comfortable with any aspect of seeing a lady, do the two of you a favor and see someone else! ;-)

Little Phil797 reads

I still would never do so, but I truly appreciate the message and the positivity in it's delivery.

Still not for me either, but if I ever were to send a deposit, it would only be to someone with as solid a reputation as hers. She is obviously doing something right.

I'm not arguing with your method or your success (16 most recent reviews: 15 10s, 1 9 (Hay! Who let that 9 in there?!)) but for the sake of the OP, how did you return that big deposit? I assume you had personal info, the man's CC or something that made it simple and easy.

Dealing with a highly reliable independent such as you, people might be more comfortable sharing personal info, but the OP is dealing with an agency (or the PS's booker or something) as intermediary, I think. (I'm with Little Phil and GGsmarterbrother: I'm not ready for the deposit scenario, either.)

Would your deposit - refund method (whatever it is) work for the OP? Any suggestions?

Have a Happy Holiday!

Personally, I do not accept CC (have toyed with the idea and may in the future) so I can't speak to how one would return a CC deposit.  Part of my screening obtaining the gent's full legal name and were I to need to return a deposit, I'd inquire as to the best address to send it to. In my singular cancellation instance, it was delivered in cash (FedEx) and that's how I returned it.  The gent in question was single and worked mainly from a home office (for a researchable company) so sending it to his home was easiest.  I'd also seen him several times previously, so he was aware of my integrity regarding his personal info.

I know some people are leary of FedExing cash but I've never had a single issue with the process in the 7 years I've been accepting them.  Some are also concerned about the 10k reporting requirement but a simple Google search nullifies that (so long as withdrawls are made under 10k and 25+ hours apart, there is no flag).  

It pays to remember that reputation is everything in this business if you want to operate on a 'higher plane'.  Ladies/agencies who are flighty, flakey, or handle their affairs differently than I do can simply change their name/persona and reinvent themselves if word gets out about their nature.  For me to do that would mean a HUGE loss of income as I reestablished myself (since the whole idea is to NOT tie the new persona to the old).  And also, it may help to understand that I operated 5 of my 7 years entirely by word of mouth - zero reviews, zero advertising, zero website/presence.  To be in my rate bracket with none of the aforementioned, one must have more going for them than a cute face and friendly attitude.  ;-)

I don't know the reputation of the agency the OP was dealing with so I can't speak to how safe a bet a CC deposit might be.  I know that I would be skeptical of any sort of paper trail leading to an agency simply for the fact that they seem to be targeted more than independents, probably due to the level of risk/reward for LE to invest time into busting them.  To spend the man hours to get past an independent's rigorous screening only to have a misdemeanor arrest (which is likely never convicted on) and no "added value" of a tax evasion conviction isn't the most politically expedient way to devote resources (not that any man hours devoted to activities between consenting adults is, lol).  Agencies tend to make better targets as the additional charges of pimping/pandering/tax evasion/trafficking/etc are more likely to stick and make headlines.

My suggestion to the OP is that if the agency in question required  deposit and he was comfortable with the concept, that he send it in cash - and trust in their reputation and his ability to absorb the financial hit if he's wrong about them.

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