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Provider ads and taking one for the team
Luke5 2793 reads
posted
1 / 25

Hello Gentlemen,

I have a question about provider boards and reliability of same.  I'm from New York and don't do alot of traveling  so I'm looking for a provider in New york City.  This will be my first time with a provider.  

I have spent a lot of time Eros NY and similar websites but I am concerned with reliability.  That is why I joined TER.  I find that a lot of the providers I am interested in don't have any other web presence and are not reviewed.  I am sure some of this is the model's preference.  I want my first time to meet my expectations so I continue in this fascinating hobby.  

I don't have a problem taking one for the team but I don't want to get "taken".  I guess my question is what are the best places to look for providers that I can look up on TER as well.  Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks guys,
Luke5

1192967 45 Reviews 1476 reads
posted
2 / 25

...get the VIP membership so you can check them out thoroughly. Only see well reviewed providers whose reviewers have reviewed many providers. If you find a provider on another ad site check her out here. If she has no presence here, pass her by. Read the Self-Help Center, upper right of the discussion board under the red & white life preserver. Read all of it. Read back on discussions here on the newbie board.  

The above will give you the best chance for a good experience and not being "taken".

1192967 45 Reviews 1427 reads
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3 / 25
Luke5 1517 reads
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4 / 25
mrfisher 115 Reviews 1515 reads
posted
5 / 25

Sorry, but no can do.

If you want to be "devil may care", and take one for the team, then know that you run a higher risk of getting taken than if you play by the rules and see only well reviewed providers.

LE, while a significant risk, is not that great a risk in term of the odds of the situation.  For years before there was a TER, I saw over a hundred gals and never once came close to LE.

On the other hand, I did find a lot of lulus whom I wish I had never met.

As you are just starting out, you should not be taking one for the team until you have had some years and dozens of encounters to hone your senses.

But, whatever floats your boat.  I understand the concept of danger being seductive myself.



EscapewAmberSky 1654 reads
posted
6 / 25

choose to not be reviewed, so my personal opinion would be don't pass them by just because they don't have a high presence here. There are many UTR ladies who are fabulous and you would never be 'taken'. It's just on a different level and in a different way. There is risk with anything in life. However, if you listen to your basic gut instinct and the 'connection' is there from first contact with her, then you've answered your question. As with anything in life, you can talk yourself 'out' of anything. So I would reach out to a few ladies who 'you' find fit what 'you' are looking for (no one else) At the end of the day, doesn't really matter what anyone else thinks, now does it? If it feels right, go with it. Simple enough.

Remember, even well reviewed ladies and a crazy TER presence won't guarantee the 'experience' of a lifetime.  

Don't always believe the 'hype.'  

It's really between you and lady of choice only and what happens between closed doors, no matter what is preached on here.
 
Posted By: Luke5
Hello Gentlemen,  
   
 I have a question about provider boards and reliability of same.  I'm from New York and don't do alot of traveling  so I'm looking for a provider in New york City.  This will be my first time with a provider.    
   
 I have spent a lot of time Eros NY and similar websites but I am concerned with reliability.  That is why I joined TER.  I find that a lot of the providers I am interested in don't have any other web presence and are not reviewed.  I am sure some of this is the model's preference.  I want my first time to meet my expectations so I continue in this fascinating hobby.    
   
 I don't have a problem taking one for the team but I don't want to get "taken".  I guess my question is what are the best places to look for providers that I can look up on TER as well.  Any help would be appreciated.  
   
 Thanks guys,  
 Luke5

hiddenhills 143 Reviews 1466 reads
posted
7 / 25
EscapewAmberSky 1629 reads
posted
8 / 25

strangers to help you choose to buy the car of your dreams, simply based on their own interpretation of that car written in a few personally biased reviews? And without test driving it yourself first?  

I think not.

TER is not the holy grail of the hobby world.  

Simply 'one vehicle' only. No pun intended lol.

Luke5 1375 reads
posted
9 / 25

Thanks for your reply! But how do I find UTR ladies without the help of a Board like TER or a service like EROS?

Luke5 1427 reads
posted
10 / 25
MissBreeBreeze See my TER Reviews 1579 reads
posted
11 / 25

Well said!!!!!      ------>.

Posted By: EscapewAmberSky
strangers to help you choose to buy the car of your dreams, simply based on their own interpretation of that car written in a few personally biased reviews? And without test driving it yourself first?  
   
 I think not.  
   
 TER is not the holy grail of the hobby world.  
   
 Simply 'one vehicle' only. No pun intended lol.

LovetoDaty 7 Reviews 1391 reads
posted
12 / 25

Likewise nearby in NJ; plus lots of established ladies tour the NYC area. Try to avoid BP and Eros as your risk for scams is greater there. Also search p411 and/or datecheck (you should be a member of at least one) for verified providers in your area.

EscapewAmberSky 1486 reads
posted
13 / 25

why does he have to stick with well-reviewed providers? Because the gentlemen who live for reviews and only select by reviews tell him to on here? Sorry, I disagree on all fronts.  

I will agree BP or Eros will make your head spin in that respect. Scam after scam with a few great providers mixed in, but like finding a needle in a haystack. You will waste valuable time searching on either of those sites.

hiddenhills 143 Reviews 1240 reads
posted
14 / 25

breaking into the UTR scene without any hobby history will be challenging.  Usually you have to know a provider who trusts you and  has a UTR friend she'll recommend. Sometimes a fellow hobbyist who knows you and trusts you will recommend a UTR. Also agencies rep UTRs  however agencies  will only arrange a date with a highly trusted existing client. Have you noticed I used the word TRUST a lot. Trust is very important in the hobby world, it isn't automatic.  It takes time to build trust within the hobby community.  

-- Modified on 6/2/2013 1:19:50 AM

1192967 45 Reviews 1516 reads
posted
15 / 25

filter it through the post by hiddenhills. If you don't have a presence/reputation seeing a UTR provider will be difficult. Ask Amber if she is willing to recommend you to one of her UTR friends. Will she see you?

1192967 45 Reviews 1390 reads
posted
16 / 25

...however it's hard to get started with UTR's when you are a newbie with no presence/reputation anywhere. It would be useful if you explained how he could go about making an arrangement with a provider as you suggest.

Thanks for your contribution. Remember the op is a newbie. My advice is based on that. It would be different if he were a veteran. But a veteran wouldn't need  to be told the information you gave. He would already know it.

You're car buying analogy doesn't work here as there is no UTR equivalent in the car buying business. We simply explain here how to get started. After that he is welcome to go about this in whatever manner he chooses.

1192967 45 Reviews 1357 reads
posted
17 / 25

...Amber mentioned P411 in a thread below. It is a verification site that hobbyists & providers belong too. Check it out. It provides references for you and lets you know the lady is legit. I should have mentioned it in my original reply to you. Do a search to get more info about it.

LovetoDaty 7 Reviews 1389 reads
posted
18 / 25

Since he is a relative "newbie" it is safer him to see an established provider rather than toftt.  
Personally, the only use I have for reviews is for my safety. I don't even read them anymore. They just help assure me that the lady is not a rip-off or worse. People who know me know that I don't care about the content, the acronyms,etc. I don't come with any expectations, rather I want to see how the lady and I connect on our date.
Likewise, the only reason I wrote a few reviews is to assure potential dates that I am legitimate, too

Panthera12 1433 reads
posted
19 / 25

with well reviewed providers. That is SOUND advice.

First of all, your chances of being burned by a well reviewed provider are small. If you go in taking risks from the onset, you will have a much higher chance of getting burned.

Choosing a well reviewed provider will also save you from questions about services. You will find plenty of EROS ads that say they are GFE, but are not. You will also save yourself from bait and switch and there are also plenty of those on EROS.

I would wait for a minimum of 3 reviews and with reviewers with track records.

TOFTT when you get some experience in your favor. Stay away from providers with no reviews. You will be taking unnecessary risks by doing so. Don't listen to providers with no reviews. Many of them don't have reviews for a reason.

keystonekid 114 Reviews 1622 reads
posted
20 / 25

any chance of a B & S, ROB, C & D, etc. situation from occuring. Once a guy "gets his feet wet", then he can venture into seeing UTR ladies or new providers.

When I want to buy a car, I will do my research as well, specificially for reliability and value. The same things I look for in reviews.

AlexandraMilw See my TER Reviews 1485 reads
posted
21 / 25

and I wish you luck. (check your pm box)

Don't let "sugar candy" get your attention. Stick with well reviewed gals. At least it cuts down on being ripped off.

RealityBites 1362 reads
posted
22 / 25

Can I ask you something, Amber... Do you agree that it is better knowing what may happen vs shelling out money and more than likely being ripped off?

Statistics are very common and lean towards those who prove their worth. Are you stating that gals who don't have reviews are safe? REALLY? BC I will BET you that I am right at least 95% of the time.  Hook your reviews up to your name because there is no way you are playing with the big dogs and don't have reviews. Yeah I am being honest.

Stop giving BAD advice to newbies. If you are a good provider you have reviews :D RIGHT? Show and tell baby. Don't mislead the little newbies so they getin any area/city taken. Are you going to argue? I think not!  

Seriously the SPOTY advice of the year. " see non reviewed gal" OH frickin please. May I present the award myself? You single offhandedly knocked the guys that have tried for many months to earn their keep on the (idiot) of the year award,  Be accomplishment and maybe I will book with you to prove what I think.

Luke5 1453 reads
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23 / 25
London Rayne See my TER Reviews 1515 reads
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24 / 25

I think you're just a bit biased being you have NO REVIEWS HERE. Sorry, but the advice that newbies should stick with well reviewed ladies will continue to be expressed here, because it is the SAFEST option for them.

It has little to do with a guy taking the word of another guy based on his idea of a 10 in looks or performance because that is always subjective, but it does have to do with that woman not being a rip off or a damn cop!  

Without reviews, you can't prove you are neither of those things. By your logic, we providers should see guys with no references or review history because they 'SAY' they are not cops or nut jobs? I think not. When a guy looks for women to see in my area, he looks for a girl with reviews that show a CONSISTENT pattern of certain things. Maybe in your area, TOFTT is common, but in most areas, it's not. Even if a guy chooses to use BP to get a cheaper rate, he can still get a sense of security if she has reviews on a REPUTABLE site, not just some local board.

-- Modified on 6/3/2013 10:40:48 AM

TheApe 1675 reads
posted
25 / 25

My advice to any newbie is to take it slow and deal with some well reviewed providers at first.  Give your self about one year to get used to the whole scene.  Once you have about four or five that you like, stick with them on some type of rotational system.   It is much safer and actually leads to what I would categorize as business friendships.  Those type of friendships can lead to introductions to UTR ladies later on.  If you try to take chances to early you will get burned with bad dates and even worse, LE.   Like anything, you have to crawl before you can walk.

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