Ok this is not a total newbie question but I haven't been at this hobby for all that long.  In the last two years since starting I've found some very talented providers in three cities I travel to fairly often and am becoming regular with them.  The one I've seen the most (about to see her again, for the 5th or 6th time) has started going bareback with me.  I didn't ask, she didn't say anything, she just started going at it without one, on I think the 3rd visit.  

Is this unusual?  Or is this common with regular clients?  With the other providers who I'll be seeing for the 3rd or 4th time, should I be expecting the same?  Would it be inappropriate to ask?  These are high end VIP girls.

I did not expect this to happen but it sure does make me want to keep coming back!

1.  You are single and don't have a SO.

2.  You're aren't worried about passing anything along to the other providers that you see.

3.  You aren't concerned about your own health.

I'll leave it at that so I don't violate the board policy on politeness.

What you need to make sure you understand is that if she's fucking you bareback...she is with everyone else as well.

Most reputable gals don't go that route however.  It does seem that the higher dollar gals or the lower dollar gals will offer this "service" for an additional fee...or so I hear  LOL

I wouldn't ask too many gals if they'll go this route with you...or you may find yourself at a minimum on DNS lists...and possible NBL.

But it is happening...so know that you're not the only jack ass out there looking for this.  You may want to get tested regularly however  LOL

From what I have read recently, bbfs is growing.  Hope you read the previous posts.  DEF NOT APPROPRIATE TO ASK FOR BBFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Swim

...BBFS! Bad idea! Obviously some providers will do it. You asking for it...bad idea!

Actually you doing it...bad idea! As a previous poster said: you don't have an SO that your afraid of passing something to? There is no way to do this with No risk but why take what I (and I'm not the only one) consider the most risk? You aren't concerned about your own risk? It's highly unlikely she is only doing that with you. You are now exposed to everyone else she has done that with.

Should you expect this with other providers? No.
Is it common? Common is relative. In my experience No it is Not common.
Is it unusual? In my experience yes, it is unusual.
If you read these boards most that comment on it say, Don't do it. You can debate whether they mean it or are just being PC but there is no doubt about the risk.
Let's see HIV, gonorrhea, syphilis, chlamydia, herpes. What do you think?

In my mind a High-end girl is smart enough to not do it. If they do it I don't consider them high end, regardless of what their ads, sites or PR says. The donation amount doesn't mean anything either.

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Providers are human too, you know. Women hate condoms as much as men do, and sometimes do stupid things to avoid using them (just like us guys).
I would be afraid of impregnating a provider. If you're barebacking someone, I think that gives u the right to ask what she's using for birth control.
Not every provider does BB, no matter how many encounters you have. I will say the majority do not offer BB at all. But I wouldn't say it's unusual to be offered it.

I would never see a client without protection even if I had known them for years...they are seeing other providors and it is for all of our mutual and respective safety.
There are other things women do to satisfy men that can be just as dangerous...that cause little to no risk to the men, but I am not about to go down in flames on account of your fetish...safety is definitely the best policy.
I would NOT ask and definitely not expect it to happen with your other providors.  It sounds like she cares more about money than making sure she keeps everyone she is providing for safe...it would definitely be a novelty that would attract repeats for someone who doesn't care about their own safety.
We all know condoms suck...but so far it's the best we have.

.....offer BB, and I think this young man is thinking he wish he didn't partake.  

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Hugs and Kisses,
Kelly

I'm glad that so many hobbyists and providers think BBFS is dangerous.  This is good advice to the original poster.  My question is:  How many of you that discourage this are willing to have a provider give you a BBBJ, or are willing to DATY without any thought of the consequences?  Risks are basically the same.  HIV, syphliss, etc.  Why the hyprocisy?  If a provider has gone down on hundreds of clients without a condom, why do you think you won't take that home to your SO?  If you truly want to be safe, be consistent!

BBBJ is very low risk for the man...higher risk for the woman...the main risk is CIM--risk still for the woman only...which is probably the most common male fantasty out there...which I have yet to get a good reason as to why even after asking several close male companions.  Yes, there is precum, but it's minimal and with a strong and healthy immune system, your body should kick any fuggly buggly ass...I have a mantra: I don't get sick.  It works for me, I don't even get colds.

I'm clean...if you want to DATY I'm not worried...most things do not pass through saliva....but it's at your own risk.
Mingling personal fluids--by far the most risky and condom is never not an option unless we are trying to have a baby...which we are definitely not in this scenario and those days are done for me personally.

...percent of risk is no where near the same. Do some research. Not impossible to get STD from BBBJ and DATY but the possibility is very low. Not saying you should do it. If it's not for you because you're not willing to take that risk that's fine. We all have to do what we are comfortable with. However saying the risk is the same is inaccurate.

As others have said, if a provider offers you BBFS, chances are good she is offering it with others.

Your best bet is to ALWAYS use a condom.  Sucks, I know, because I would rather feel a pussy without a cover, but no one needs to go through the risks with you.

...here. I assume you are saying I'm in the fantasy world and you are in the real world. I won't argue here. There are plenty of posts on this board and others that have links to the CDC and other legitimate sites with the facts and statistics that support what I said about bbbj and daty being much less risk than bbfs. If you care to, please do a search and see for yourself. It's important to note that the CDC and others have an interest in discouraging risky behavior and yet their info supports my position.

Even then I'm not saying you should ignore your own feelings about the risk. If you're not willing to take it that's fine. Just don't pass along inaccurate info to support your position.

I have heard (but never tried) that a female condom feels close to BBFS.  But not all providers are open to them.