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biltil48 1822 reads
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Hi Folks ---- I am totally legit.  Very new.  First venture into this world.  Have some trepidation,

Anyway -- the one or two providers I have contacted (and who have returned my inquiries) asked for references or whitelist.  I had no idea what white list is --- but some research has given me a sense of what it is all about.  

Is there any way to get on a list without having references.  Absolutely brand new at this.  How do I come across as legit to potential providers???

Thanks for any info.

Bill T

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mrfisher507 reads

and is appended to your list of reviews which you do not have yet as you are yet to write one.

Joining a screening service like P411 at godd there suggests is a good way to get started.

I also suggest since you are new at this that you read up on TER and the hobby scene in general by reading the Newbie/Self Help Manual that you will find linked on this page.  It will be time well spent.

Also you should pay for VIP status so you can read gals' reviews.


Welcome to TER.

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1192967524 reads

...without having first seen a provider. The white list is peculiar to TER. A provider can white list (ie. give you a TER reference) you which is a way of saying to other providers that you are legit and safe to see.

Without having seen someone the best way to be verified so providers know you are ok is to join a service such as P411 (noted by a previous poster & there are others). You can then see providers that accept P411 verification. Many of them will see you without any verification other than your P411 membership.

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perfectstorm461 reads

Read back on this board. Just reading the last ten or so pages will give you a lot of info. You will see your question comes up weekly if not more often (sometimes several times in one day!). Plus many other questions that are asked and answered here will be helpful to you.

Look for newbie friendly providers. Many are willing to see you without references or whitelists but you will have to provide some type of screening. Many times this will include your real name and work info.

Reiterating the earlier advice, definitely read the self help center, get VIP here, and consider p411 membership.

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bude57365 reads

Is there a way to search for newbie friendly providers you mentioned? I'm also a newbie, and though p411 sounds like the way to go, do most fly-by-night providers even deal with it? Thanks for answering.

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DJ1985449 reads

A lot of P411 providers are newbie friendly and safe

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crazyshit551 reads

They have to be comfortable with who they are seeing.  Pretty simple.

I don't know why this question keeps coming up.  It's not really rocket science.

Just tell the lady you are new to this and want to see her.  Ask her what she needs to get comfortable.

Simple.

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LovetoDaty506 reads

Yes, just ask her. Probably she will need your employment phone and your real first and last name.
If she is comfortable enough to see you then ask her when you meet her if she could whitelist you on TER and maybe Date-Check. Also, ask her if it's OK to use her as a reference when you contact other providers.

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perfectstorm480 reads

Posted By: crazyshit
I don't know why this question keeps coming up.  It's not really rocket science.
Its not really rocket science either, to figure out this is the newbie board and newbies will ask newbie questions, because they dont know the answer! Of course the same questions are going to keep coming up! Sure, I wish some folks would read some threads or search before they ask something that was just asked a couple threads down, but no reason to get upset about it. You know, you dont have to be here answering questions if you dont want to! (Especially when the OPs questions were already answered by several others on the thread and you are not adding anything. :)

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crazyshit467 reads

It really should be very, very obvious to anyone who reads even a random five posts on this board.

As for my helping others...you are right.  I guess what you and others don't know is that I just got off a PM thread literally holding this guy's virtual hand because he is downright fucking neurotic about an appointment coming up (his first).  And the very mention of the donation by the girl sets him off because of very bad information he got on this newbie board.  No kidding....I think I got at least 50 separate PMs from this guy, and it's enough to say, "See her or don't see her.  At this point I could fucking care less."

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...the bad info he got from this board interests me. Obviously I'm not asking you to divulge something he told you but it would surely be useful for others to know what this bad info is.

I encourage the OP to share that info for the benefit of others if he will.

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crazyshit398 reads

That is total and utter horseshit.  To say that is suggesting that you never discuss rates in an email, phone call or text.  That is completely inaccurate.

Women change their rates, and touring women have different rates for different cities.  A girl charging $300 in Philly might be charging $500 in NYC, and so if her site says $300/hour but her TER Ad Board ad in NYC says $500/hour, would it be out of the question for a provider to simply clarify her rate in an email?

No kidding.  I spent fucking 30% of the PMs trying to tell this guy that the information he got was useless and bad.

His neurosis was nearly entirely based on that.

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1192967416 reads

Well, I have seen that advice given but it's almost always followed by once you have been screened you can ask things such as is the rate on your profile accurate or where can I find your current rates. Actually those are ok without screening. The point is not to discuss rates in connection with sexual services. Don't say for example, what is your rate for greek? I have seen providers say they will break contact if rates are brought up at all in initial contact.

I see your point crazyshit. He latched onto one thing to the detriment of everything else. Hopefully this discussion will help others.

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crazyshit473 reads

A case can easily be made as to solicitation.  It may not stand up in court at the very end of the day because it's weak and circumstantial, but that won't matter if you get outed and your name goes in the local paper.

The guys in Maine who are part of that whole Zumba prostitution scandal may ultimately get off, but the fact that their names were associated with that hooker surely has fucked up their reputations and their profiles within their communities, I imagine.

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perfectstorm346 reads

Not doubting that you have helped guys via PM. You have also given good information on the board here. I was just commenting that we try to be nice on the newbie board and even though we get the same questions over and over, it is still best not to get frustrated in your replies here. It is okay to nudge them to read the board and use search, but try to do it in a nicer way here. We play different on the General board obviously:) None of us has to be here answering questions, but I feel if we want to be here we should answer in a kinder gentler manner.

As for your comment in your other posts (your replies to xyz) about discussing money, I agree with you, and while I have also seen it said here many times NEVER discuss money on the phone or by email, if you ever saw any of my posts on the subject I always say it is fine to discuss payment for time but not to discuss sex acts. I have done it many times myself where the ladies` rates were not found on her website, or I wanted a session that was not listed, or she was travelling and didn`t have the travel rates for my city. But it is true that some newbies will read something here and take one part of it as Gospel, and think they can not do smething any other way! I have also had many back and forth PMs from newbies trying to help them out.

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crazyshit404 reads

It is a bad idea to give the impression that you have done this before when you have not.  That will make the provider nervous as you start asking things that you should otherwise know.

Tell her you are brand new and have no references, and ask her if there is an alternative method of being screened.

Typically this means she will want some of your personal information, such as your real name and your work information (something which can be Googled and/or verified).  You may also be required to show your ID when you arrive and see her, because otherwise she doesn't have any assurance that the name you give her is in fact your own.

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