I've searched the forum for quote about overnights and have read what's available, but still have some questions of my own.
I'm planning a trip in a couple of months where I'll have a nice suite. In terms of valuables, can I assume the safe in the room will be sufficient? I don't have to worry too much about regular clothing/luggage, right? (I'm sorry, that question sounds ridiculous to me already) I've only ever indulged in Incalls, so I'll be doing two new things here.
I have a few girls in mind, including a few whose reviews include some overnight sessions despite, from all appearances, not having seen the reviewer previously. My thought is that I should try and meet with the girl at least once before requesting an overnight. I don't think I can rely on seeing any of them online here and am skeptical of my ability to get a useful email correspondence So fear I'll have to rely on a face-to-face session to establish that important rapport. To the veterans, does this sound reasonable?
Do agencies provide overnight dates? Even if they do, is it better to go independent?
Really, I'm looking for any and all tips and advice because I'm sure there are things I haven't thought of. Advice on dinner (what to look for, what to a avoid), other extra-curricular activities (shows, movies, clubs, etc... What works best), heck, even the prospect of bringing in a second provider (like Swim's experience), though that might be a bit *too* ambitious for me at this point...
Is there a "Dummy's Guide to Overnight Hobbying"?
Thanks for your help!
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do not have an overnighter with a provider you have not seen at least a couple of times. If there is no chemistry between you and her, you will have spent an awful lot of money for a lousy night.
Unfortunately, there is no 'Overnighter's for Dummies' book. Other than what I said above, I would not recommend bringing in a second provider unless you know that they know each other. Have to admit, I got extremely lucky with my first one, as I went against all the advice I am giving you here. You will be better off with just you and her, esp for the first time. I have since had overnighters with each of the girls alone from my first one, great times with both of them.
But like I said, I really believe I got VERY lucky.
Swim
I like agencies but the point swim made matters the most. You do want to have seen the lady before to be sure that you can "stand" one another for an overnight.
I had an overnight with a ladies I met for the first time. I don't recommend it for newbies. My first was a pro, and she did her homework (made sure the overnight would work). The second came highly recommended, and she seemed pleasant on the phone. They worked out great.
Any lady could possibly do an overnight (indy, agency, etc.). Whether a particular lady is willing is an entirely different issue. Some have kids, etc.
The pricing of an overnight is way more variable. I've seen it as low as the equivalent of a 3 hour date. It can be incall or outcall. Bring what you need to wear. I never worried about security since I didn't have anything worth stealing (except the money I would be giving her anyway). The safe is fine for your wallet.
I see it as a chance to have an extended "get to know you". Maybe a romp in the hay before dinner. More conversation after dinner. Bottle or two of wine. More fun, being close while you sleep. Sometimes I have taken a lady out to a show. Movie is too cheap. If she likes clubs, then go for it. Whatever you would do on a civie date.
I wouldn't bother with a second lady. Save that for some other time.
....if it is a gentleman I have not visited with in the past, he will have to provide my full gift. For the gentlemen that are "loyal", they always will receive a special rate for extended dates, overnights, and travel.
Hugs and Kisses
Good for you, but I still would not recommend what I did, esp for a newb. When I did my first overnighter, I had been around the hobby a few years, and took a chance, yes, but it worked out.
Swim
When I inquired about a dinner date, I found out the overnight was just a little more, so why not. In one instance it was 2.5x her hourly rate, and in the other, it was 3x. At a minimum, I would have company for dinner, and some fun afterwards. If it wasn't working out, I could send her home.
I tend to see low volume ladies - ladies who see a few guys a week. It is a chance for her to make in one night, what she makes in a week, with only an hour or two of "hard work".
a rough plan for the night is a good idea... meet for an appetizer session (quicky) perhaps... dinner & entertainment... return to room for nightcap & session. Sleep. Some agreement on hours of sleep is a good idea. Is a mid-might romp acceptable or not? Wake up & breakfast & a good morning send off. These are not carved in stone but rather subject to both parties agreement.
If either party seriously snores... might want to bring that up... It might even be adviseable to spend sleep time separately.
On longer dates, so personal private time... even if just to check in at home... or maybe shower or makeup... or maybe serious toilet time... ought to be no surprise.
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First of all sorry for the alias, as the name implies. Normally I would not use an alias on the newbie board, however I don't want readers looking at my reviews under my handle to try to figure out which lady I'm talking about. I didn't even review her anyway, but still people would look and play the guessing game.
I broke my own rules, but I just recently had the most awesome overnight. It was a lady I have never met before, but she had good reviews, and a super good rate. Basically her overnight rate was 2.5 times her 1 hour rate. So financially it was a no brained to me. I contacted her to find out how many total hours that included and how many indoor vs public hours, without asking for juicy details. She replied that it would be 12 to 14 hours starting with dinner and a show, and then she would be dessert. She also said we would have fun time before bed, and again in the morning and possibly in the middle of the night if iwad up to it. I didn't expect that much detail in her first reply to me, but it sounded good and I went for it. Not only did we have a nice dinner and a great time together in the evening but the bedroom time was amazing starting with a strip show then a mutual shower, then several hours of fun, then lots of cuddling, spooning, sleeping together, waking up next to her, and what ended up being spending the next day with her off the clock. Total of about 18-19 hours! Obviously we had some kind of connection. She really enjoys longer dates which is why her rate structure really encourages it. Talk about "forgetting it was a service."
Obviously an overnighter like any date is ymmv. I said I broke my own rules because basically I agree with what was said in these other posts. On this date maybe I got lucky or this particular lady is just special. My general rule is I would not do a long date with a lady I haven't already met on a shorter date. You want to have a connection or some chemistry. Nothing like being stuck with somebody you don't like for 12 hours. Many of the ladies also won't do longer dates as a first date. For me I never do 1/2 hour or even 1 hour dates either. I normally will book 2 hour sessions. Then if we have a good time I might do a 4 or 5 hour dinner date, then maybe an overnight or full day session.
I wouldn't do a duo on a first overnight either. For a duo, you should probably know at least one of the ladies and they should know each other. As for valuables the room safe should be fine or don't bring any valuables. Like one of the other posters said, the only valuable thing I would have is the lady's envelope. Actually she may want to use the safe.
You can do overnights with both agencies and independents. Check their ads, websites and reviews. Also look for the ones that offer good discounts for longer dates. This generally means that they enjoy the longer dates.
There is no "for dummies" book like swim said, but you have some pretty good guidelines here, and sounds like you were already coming from a position of good reasoning by your op. however there are exceptions to all rules as in my case, and Swim's duo.
No matter how good she is in the sack you are not going to be boinking all night. At some point personalities get involved. You will be eating together, hanging out together, perhaps trying to share some form of entertainment. Lots of chances for fun and laughter...or the cold dark stare of someone you just don't have anything in common with.
What if you don't even LIKE how she is in the sack? Guess what, you are paying for the entire date anyway. That could be a really expensive experiment.
But even for an experienced hobbyist that is a good rule. However there are exceptions to rules and in my case (story above) I think it was the exceptional rate that made me decide to do it. It turned out amazingly awesome for me, but even if it hadn't, it would not have been a an extremely expensive experiment. If it turned out terrible and I bailed early, I would have been out the equivalent of a 2.5 hr date. (And I was pretty sure I would have had at least 2.5 hrs of a good time.) Still, probably 90% of the time, I would agree with you and not recommend it on a first date.
First, thanks to everyone for the advice. On the face of it, it sounds like common sense prevails, but hearing it out loud from veterans is making me more confident that this could be a really good time.
Before I offer my observation, let me preface it by saying that I'd always planned on establishing a connection, preferably in person, with the provider I'd ask for an overnight session with. After all of the helpful responses, I'm going to make that my priority. Luckily, I've given myself a couple of months to lay this thing out, so will have multiple opportunities to get into the destination city to meet with "potentials". (Aw shucks, I'll just have to *suffer* through some extraneous sessions. Darn.)
Now, my observation: For all the people saying that it's important to meet with the girl first, it's encouraging to know that there're enough classy ladies out there that we have all of these positive exceptions. 
Thanks, again, for the help! And any additional tips and suggestions are most welcome!
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I think you will do well. You obviously have done your homework, and have time to continually do more. You are taking advice well but also realize that it is possible to go against some of the advice and still come out fine, while realizing there might be some risk involved. So of course it is up to you how much risk you are willing to take. Sounds like you are a smart guy and I think you will end up having a great time.
My further suggestions regard your last paragraph asking about dinner, shows etc. I think most of us who replied completely ignored that part of your question. Well except MrFisher who said to avoid Mexican. Not bad advice by the way. For dinner and show ideas, get some input from the lady. Once you make your decision on which lady you are doing the overnight with, and the day, you can have some conversations with her on what she likes or doesn't like. I usually email the lady and say something like, "hey I'm planning our dinner date , do you prefer McDonald's or burger king?" that kind of gives her an idea of my sense of humor and I can also gauge hers by her response. Right after that I usually have a smiley or a wink, and ask realistically if there is something she really doesn't like, for example you don't want to take her to steakhouse if she is vegan or a sushi bar if she is allergic to seafood. One lady replied to me "definitely Burger King. I love the 'Double Stacker'" so I knew she had a sense of humor too. Realistically I wouldn't take a lady to a fast food place lol. You can actually ask for her suggestion of place to go, but many ladies like when you take charge and plan the date, so in that case it is good to get suggestions, of things or places she likes or doesn't like, then you make the choice. Some ladies are only okay with fine dining. Some are okay with just about anything. For myself personally I don't care for fine dining but I like good midrange steakhouse or seafood place.
Same thing for shows. Get some input from her on what she likes and doesn't like. You don't want to take her to a Garth Brooks concert if she hates country music. You probably don't want to take her to something she has already seen ten times in the last three months either. Get some ideas from her then decide. My last overnight started with dinner and a movie and it turned out great. We were originally planning to do some kind of show, but there was nothing really going on. So it was her idea. She texted me "I'm okay with a movie" so I looked up what was playing in the area with show times around the time we would be finished with dinner. Then I picked out 5 out of the 15 or so, that I wouldn't mind seeing. I texted her my list of 5 the day before our date so she could research them and decide what she wanted to see. Actual decision wasn't made until dinner. The movie turned out to be great and the theatre was not very crowded so we did some cuddling and neck massages on each other while watching and eventually she laid down othe seats with her head in my lap. (no not bobbing up and down-that was for later-she was watching the movie from that position. Stadium seating and no one directly in front) anyway it was very nice and romantic.
but they do identify the issues. If they come up later, you'll at least have thought about them. If you both are reasonable & willing to compromise, this will turn out well.
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