You can search Newbie for other threads on making remote anonymous payments. E.g., do not use regular PayPal - they will seize funds for violation of terms of service, etc.. PayPal Gift Cards seem to be more reliable. However, ...
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You can also search Newbie and General for opinions about making deposits. Very risky. Many recommend against. Ever been to a magic show in LV? You give your deposit to the beautiful assistant, she climbs into the box and - POOF! - completely disappears with your deposit. Thank you very much! A round of applause for our volunteer!
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I suggest you tell your potential date that you will contact her again as your trip to LV approaches and make your reservation, without a deposit, a few days out.
While planning for a trip to Vegas I reached out to a provider I had been admiring for a long time. All went well and would be happy to meet on the date I requested BUT because I was booking 6 weeks in advance a deposit would be required. This kinda threw me big time, not because of the money but simply the logistics, I can hardly put money in an envelop and post it 6000 miles, I'm not going to pay by credit card, so unless she takes PayPal I can't see how we progress. My question isn't really about how can I pay, I just wondered if anyone else has encountered this before. I didn't even know it was a thing. There is no mention of this policy on her website and I would have thought advanced booking would be encouraged . Thoughts ladies and gentlemen please!!!!!
Once she has your money, she has lost most of the incentive to actually show up for the appointment. Then if she is NCNS, all you can do is complain about it here. Do yourself a favor and contact other providers until you find somebody with a more realistic booking policy.
Excalty point saves gambling for the casinos. Doesn't matter trust and reputable professionals.Of course paid professionals going make sure clients having amazing paid sessions..Show up without money see what happen with paid professionals. Illegal services paying a deposit before paid sessions..Reviews pieces of evidence paid for illegal services.No professionals want to lose money and have business expenses.
You can search Newbie for other threads on making remote anonymous payments. E.g., do not use regular PayPal - they will seize funds for violation of terms of service, etc.. PayPal Gift Cards seem to be more reliable. However, ...
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You can also search Newbie and General for opinions about making deposits. Very risky. Many recommend against. Ever been to a magic show in LV? You give your deposit to the beautiful assistant, she climbs into the box and - POOF! - completely disappears with your deposit. Thank you very much! A round of applause for our volunteer!
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I suggest you tell your potential date that you will contact her again as your trip to LV approaches and make your reservation, without a deposit, a few days out.
Thanks, that is exactly what I did.told her I would reach out when in Vegas and roll the dice on her availability. I'm just happy that you and Vincenzo backed up my own thoughts on this and that I wasn't being overly cautious. Love the magic show analogy by the way 😊 if I'm not getting in the box neither is my money lol
I was just back in Vegas for 6 nights a few weeks ago.
There is way too many hot providers there that won't ask for a deposit like this.
Too many things can go wrong, and you don't need any negativity and possible drama issues during your trip.
I have sent a couple hundred to 2 different ladies (each that I have had multiple dates with, I might add) using western union.
1 worked out great, the other not so good.
I wouldn't be comfortable sending anything to someone I haven't met.
Good luck!
wait until a week or so before you go and then reach out to the lady(s) you want to meet. Meanwhile, make a list of those that perk your interest so you are ready to go when the time comes.
As others have said, not much good can happen with you sending money to someone you haven't met.
Personally, I only ask for a deposit if someone has repeatedly scheduled weeks in advance only to cancel a few days out. This is mentioned on my website and in my email signature too.
As to this lady, I'd politely explain you don't feel comfy sending a deposit. Then ask her what is the furthest out she's willing to reserve your date WITHOUT a deposit.
My guess is this lady has had enough experiences where gentlemen have booked far in advance only to continue "shopping around"; and have then cancelled on her after finding someone else. By that time she may have already turned down other serious date requests and thus considers this to be money lost.
Deposits are generally just a way to insure that the gentleman is indeed serious and intending to keep his date. I'd guess that Vegas ladies likely get more window-shoppers and tire-kickers than most, so it doesn't shock me that a popular lady might have such a policy.
Because I have seen too many high end popular providers flake. They seem exceptionally sweet as can be but they are also window shopping. If a better deal comes around then you will get bumped and it is probably 50/50 whether or not you will ever see your money back. Some who do not intend to give you your money back may write a very sweet email that will tell you basically that she will treat you like a king and will just hold onto it for your next trip. Then you start to get pissed. You realize that you are powerless. You can't even write a review. So you post something. Also pointless. Gaga will call you out for being an idiot. Then you will get pissed again. Attempt to defend yourself, feel as though you were misunderstood, but will eventually move on. Then you will be pissed that you wasted so much of your time. Generally speaking, that is how it works if things go awry. And somehow YOU will look like a creep that can't let things go and she will look like an innocent victim who engenders sympathy. Don't be that guy.
.... pull up a chair and read this long thread:
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/new-york-2/ncns-report-on-new-york-city-based-provider-mya-ter-id-151776-256016?page=1
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Or it might have been a reference to GaG's description of "buying pussy on the layaway plan" thread that I can't find. (Someone had been paying his pre-meeting deposit over the course of several months in small increments. When he was ready to meet, she announced that the deposit was just to get to the next phase of paying for a meeting with services.)
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OP: Avoid deposits. You can have plenty of good times and avoid the headaches.
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I live close to NY so I am familiar with the thread. That said, these sorts of threads happen all of the time. NCNS, ladies flaking, and deposits threads always seem to follow a similar pattern.
Hi there! Established provider here. I require deposits for all of my multi hour clients. ESPECIALLY in Las Vegas... here's why. I'm planning say 2 hours with you... that will require me to front initial costs for a room, possibly travel, house sitter, etc. I will meet you looking like a million bucks from my perfectly done hair to my expensively made up face. I'll be wearing lingerie that costs two car payments, shoes that cost a couple of mortgage payments and you'll be arriving to a suite or private residence that is triple my own housing costs. The likelihood that you will cancel our appointment in Vegas is about 45%, so I'm taking a HUGE gamble fronting those costs to meet you. Additionally, I've blocked off 2 hours before our appointment and 2 hours after so that I can be completely fresh, ready for and present with you. I'm only getting paid for the 2 hours we are together, even though I am allotting 6 to our time together. PLUS I have to screen you and do my own research to make sure you are safe, which can take another hour or 2. Expecting you to pay 25% of the cost of our time together allows me to make those investments assured that they will be at least covered.
I didn't always require deposits. Man, was that was an expensive learning phase for me. I lost THOUSANDS of dollars. Now that I require them, I only see clients who aren't going to waste my time, effort or resources with their indecisiveness. I'm giving my time to people who demonstrate that they are serious about our mutual good time together. I occasionally run into people in my inbox who are horrified that I require deposits, but I don't mind walking away from things that don't work for me or my business and wishing them well on their way.
Some of you may gasp here... but several of my companions even PREPAY our time together. It's like letting me cum first, meeting my needs before bringing me theirs. I can't tell you what a difference it makes in my companion relationships when we treat one another with trust, good faith, humor and assured reciprocation.
I can't believe hookers asking for deposit before paid session.I get no hookers wants to lose money.Paid sessions without strings.
I can't believe I am about to say this, but "Good advice Fancy" lol
That's cool for these guys. Not everyone is comfortable jumping to that level. The point of this post was to let you know that it is considered normal practice in some parts of this world/industry whatever you want to call it.
The best advice I can give you in determining whether it is the right choice for YOU is to determine whether
1. the provider is reputable, established and has a website with this policy clearly stated. If so, she isn't likely to mess around with your money. Remember, her business is dependent upon her consistency. High end providers don't have room to mess up on this, and they won't. If there is an emergency and she has to cancel, you'll get your money back.
2. your circumstances are not threatened by the risk of a transfer. Some guys are able to keep their business discrete and private, some are not. This requires a certain level of stealth and skill on your part, as well as courage and nerves.
3. you are willing to be as trusting with your escort as you are expecting her to be with you. some people are, some are not. many of us feel a fair exchange makes a best exchange.
4. you recognize that your relationships are your responsibility. If you are wary of sending a deposit, is it because you are worried you didn't choose a safe provider? if so, go back to step 1.
Obviously a woman has the right to run her business however she sees fit and that of course extends to demanding deposits if that's what she chooses to do, but it's hardly the way "most" women run their business and is certainly not an approved of practice here, nor is it the kind of thing any veteran here worth his salt would ever advise a newbie to do, EXCEPT under certain circumstances.
The general rule of thumb about deposits is when a client asks a woman to either travel an unusually far distance to see him, asks her to block out a very large time slot for him,(four hours or more is the norm) asks her to come out of pocket for either wardrobe, food, drink etc that goes beyond the norm. Those types of requests make a deposit a very fair thing for a provider to ask, but simply to schedule a one or two hour appointment in the normal course of business, the answer will be an overwhelming, "no fucking way" from most of us here.
Yes, a provider sets her own rules, but as savvy consumers it's up to us to decide what is "reasonable" and to the vast majority of us, sending a deposit for an one or two hour session is far from reasonable and under no circumstances would we advise a newbie to do so no matter how well reviewed the provider is in question.
Each lady is of course able to implement her own policies ...
But on this subject I think it is absolutely imperative to have it posted on ones website .
Where are you by chance requesting a 12 to 24 hour rendezvous ? ..
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I myself do not require a deposit unless I am flying to you or promising myself to 24/48 hours or longer.
I do require light hand holding threw flirty email/text/private message communication until you arrive in my city and our smiles connect. If hey gentlemen goes missing in action during the "hand holding" time I delete the rendezvous from my calendar and except a new invitations .
Has it always worked for me? No.
Am I going to change my policy? No.
Contacted the provider about a month in advance since I was visiting her city. She requested a deposit of half since she said she would be planning her month around my appointment. I'd seen her before, she was apologetic when asking for deposit of half, and since I'd seen her before, I could see her for a cheaper rate. Since I'd seen her before and trusted her, I sent her the whole donation upfront. And I had a great appointment when it came appointment time.
For your situation, how much is the deposit? And does this provider have good reviews? If this was someone well established and the deposit amount wasn't exorbitant, I probably would do it.
The key difference here is that you had seen her before. You should never even consider a deposit unless you have seen her before preferably multiple times and built up to a longer date. 1 hour, 2 hours, 4 hours, then maybe a date that merits a deposit. She places a value on your future business (more likely to return deposit). A provider may not perceive a tourist as offering much business beyond this one time so she may not place much value on your future business (more likely to keep deposit). You need to be able to have a feel for her judgment. I don't necessarily agree with the above claim that "High end providers don't have room to mess up on this, and they won't. If there is an emergency and she has to cancel, you'll get your money back." Providers cancel then always claim that they will make it up to you or that your deposit will serve as credit for your next visit or whatever. Basically about half of them probably just want you to go away and forget about it if that happens. Eventually most do go away. "High end" is subjective and high TER rating does not equal ethical or honest. Ethics and honesty don't factor into a TER rating.
I require deposits if the client has history of canceling appts in the past. When I'm traveling anywhere that isn't around the DMV area I am requiring deposits now. I have to make sure that I am covering my expenses for the trip. Previously I had few cancelations and Im not risking it anymore.