Newbie - FAQ

What to do if provider doesn't offer service listed...
EskimoSoldier 2289 reads
posted
1 / 21

For example, their profile lists BBBJ but when you arrive they state that they only do it with a condom now. Is this a legitimate reason to walk out? Agency or independent.

Sphinxnc 19 Reviews 961 reads
posted
2 / 21

donation, good for you.  Unfortunately this usually isn't going to be discovered until too late.  Yes, you can walk at any time for any reason.  Good luck getting any funds back once the session has started.

bluepillman 701 reads
posted
4 / 21

Profiles are not always accurate. You have to read the reviews, especially the most recent ones as ladies change their menu options. Get into the habit of pm'ing her last several reviewers for more detail. Guys will often give more info outside of the spotlight so to speak. Some guys will give you nothing if you use your alias or you have no reviews so be prepared that everyone won't pm you back. Also, all services are at a ladies discretion. Now if she refuses any service and takes your money, she is a ripoff and needs to be outed thru a review. So while you can walk out on any girl for any reason, be prepared for the backlash. You could be placed on a blacklist, bad mouthed among her friends, she has your personal info and all that implies....so before you walk out, make sure you consider all the shit you may have to endure.

dontknowanymore 4 Reviews 704 reads
posted
5 / 21

It's always a ymmv business IMO.  There are any number of reasons why that may happen...her comfort...hygiene...her choice to now always do cbj where previously she did bbbj....an inaccurate profile listing....etc etc...

As to legit reason to walk out or not...that's tough one for me personally.  A bj, even bbbj, is just a warm up to the main event for me so I'd probably be ok with it.  If, on the other hand, that was your "main event", I personally can't blame you for wanting to leave.  I'd be as courteous as possible...probably leave some sort of tip...and politely excuse myself.

Your lead up also makes this scenario sound hypothetical. The scope of the service has a big part in this.  If the expectation is FS and only a regular massage is offered...that's on the side of the spectrum closer to B&S to me, for example.  If DFK is expectation and no kissing is offered...I'd count that up to ymmv.  I might very well have objectionable breath :D.  

Probably the best thing to do to avoid this is the oft repeated..."see only well reviewed providers and do your research so you haven a good idea what to expect".  

I'm curious to hear what others have to add.  Good question.  


Posted By: EskimoSoldier
For example, their profile lists BBBJ but when you arrive they state that they only do it with a condom now. Is this a legitimate reason to walk out? Agency or independent.

bluepillman 717 reads
posted
6 / 21

That is a major breech in protocol and they will just assume you are a cop and they might be friendly with other agencies and tip them off as well. Never ask about services either from an Indy or an agency. That's what reviews are for.

Sphinxnc 19 Reviews 709 reads
posted
7 / 21

and wind up on their "do not answer" list.

Guess I need to post the mantra we mostly live by here.  Get a VIP membership if you don't already have one.  As a 'newbie' you should only see well reviewed ladies.  Visit the Self-Help Center (under the life preserver) you can find on the first page of any forum.

There are others which will I'm sure be added but I think those are the most important.

BeautywithBrains See my TER Reviews 673 reads
posted
8 / 21

...that she performed bbbj, but then with you did not, you have reason to be upset.  I don't think it would be right to walk out, with out leaving her part of her gift.

  Yes, you will get hung up on, if you ask a lady about a specific act.  You might say something like, "I read your reviews and profile, and would like you to confirm, that you still offer the same menu"?  

  I just started offering bbbj, and while it is changed in my profile, I do not have a current review of this.  I have had a few gentlemen ask if my updated profile is correct, and I simply say yes.

Hugs and Kisses,
Kelly

clarence37 37 Reviews 692 reads
posted
9 / 21

You are paying for the service, and can choose to walk out any time you want. Unfortunately, there is no such thing as "legitimate" in this business.

If you are extraordinarily polite to the girl, explain to her that "bbbj" is your reason for living and that you were under the impression that it was being offered, and offer to give her a reasonable tip before walking out, then you SHOULD be fine. But you never know when you are going to run into a vindictive girl, or agency, and have to suffer some backlash. They CAN cause you some problems as others have suggested. You can probably survive it, but who needs it?

IMHO, your best bet is to suffer the CBJ; I am a die-hard BBBJ man, but have had some decent CBJs in my career. Be sure to write the review - don't trash the girl just for that, but be sure to indicate the change to CBJ status.

2hot4u2 228 Reviews 712 reads
posted
10 / 21

A Ter guy , her profile says bbbj & rimming.He shows up (pulling his air tank) and she goes to bbbj and she notices an odor, so she stops the bj and moves to begin cg.But said Ter guy wants rimming , he raises his legs and there brown tracks all over the bed!She refuses and he gets irate and threatens to out her on review...
 Bottom line it's her body and her choice! You can make note of it in your review..but you  show up like this ASSWipe chances are you wont .

saturnsky 772 reads
posted
11 / 21

You wear a condom, it might be because of something that pertains to you...uncut maybe , something she smells or sees that has concerned her?

Any lady can offer everything under the sun or restrict whatever she sees fit depending on the hygiene, condition and attitude of her visitor. I know that might seem unfair but it is necessary at times to protect a lady form putting her mouth on something unclean or unhealthy and it is her judgement call.

saturnsky 756 reads
posted
12 / 21

"Now if she refuses any service and takes your money, she is a ripoff and needs to be outed thru a review."

Just so I read your post correctly...by any service do you mean she won't do anything, or that she refuses one thing and does the rest?

What if a guy is unclean or has a sore on his penis? Her refusing to do a BBBJ is in the interest of health and safety...her health and safety, and that in turn helps out every other guy she sees after. Why should she be penalized for that?

saturnsky 704 reads
posted
13 / 21

"I read your reviews and profile, and would like you to confirm, that you still offer the same menu"?

How can she answer that correctly when she has not met him? I mean she could say yes on the phone/text/email and he shows up with a dirty crotch...she then is in a bind...do it and deal, or say no thank you and have an angry guy standing there saying, "well you told me your menu was such and such".

This part I don't get....there are many variables that would support a lady changing her menu items dependent on each individual client and his health, hygiene.  Or am I missing something?

saturnsky 672 reads
posted
14 / 21

And she is then put into a very awkward position.

clarence37 37 Reviews 794 reads
posted
15 / 21

It just seems logical, and I've had it confirmed by a number of providers, that if a lady's profile and reviews suggest that she does offer bbbj, and she refuses a specific guy, then there must be some problem with the guy that puts her off - most likely an odor or hygiene issue.

No matter how many times we have a post that explains and encourages guys to be squeaky clean when they arrive for a session, we still hear stories about the stinky dirty brown stain guys all the time. The problem is that the guys who actually read and take to heart the warnings are not the problem. The guys who put on their underwear using the "yellow in front, brown in back" model are also guys who read this stuff and think it is about somebody else - or they just don't bother to read it - or maybe they can't read.

clarence37 37 Reviews 685 reads
posted
16 / 21

Well, he did say "if she refuses ANY service". I'm pretty sure he is talking about a lady who takes the money and won't do anything.

And while I am totally on board that a guy has to take responsibility for being clean and STD-free, I do believe that if a lady refuses service for ANY reason, she should refund part of the money. Not all, she has time invested, but it's just good customer service to offer a refund  if you don't provide anything.

bluepillman 638 reads
posted
17 / 21

Was referring to a scam artist who provides zero sexual activity.

ITAdmin 8 Reviews 674 reads
posted
18 / 21

Of course there are. But the variable you mentioned isn't negated by the answer she gave. If a guy shows up with filthy junk would you just honestly tell him that was the reason? If not why? Would you not try to spin it maybe by offering to help him wash? I mean there are ways to deal with it that are open, honest, and cn make it a positive experience without giving a list of exceptions to a simple question.

London Rayne See my TER Reviews 750 reads
posted
19 / 21

Exactly. Just because I "Offer" x to one guy, does not mean I am forced to provide it to EVERY guy. Then again, I usually just tell him to leave with his money, if something is not right. If his c*ck is smelly, I am not going to just throw a condom on it, and proceed. I will just not deal with him, at all.

harborview 10 Reviews 699 reads
posted
20 / 21

It seems that many providers start or are listed as BBBJ but later clients get CBJ.  That is one reason why it is recommended that newbies see well reviewed providers & DO YOUR HOMEWORK by reading the most recent reviews.  
If you properly research, you'll avoid all sorts of surprises & be a better match with the services you want.  Yes, it costs a few bucks...  way cheaper than even one spoiled date.  Most of us have been through this & is why we know what we are talking about.  With a month's VIP you should be able to devolupe a nice bucket list.
I use the most recent reviews & scan for my close area to know what gals are active there.  
HV

saturnsky 876 reads
posted
21 / 21

I would not tell him his privates were dirty...if he has no clue about hygiene. I am not going to teach a grown man to wash his dirty junk. And what if a shower/clean up is refused? Seriously, people should take care of their own personal hygiene or deal with what they won't get. And if the issue is the guys, there is no way I am refunding a portion of the fee because he is dirty and I have to either refuse to go near it or slap on a condom. We are all adults and being clean is a PERSONAL responsibility.

Next, if there is a sore or redness etc...that's where I ask him to leave...he can take his money, I don't want anything to do with that.

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