Hey everyone,

Thanks for all the great replies to my previous newbie question, very helpful.

Now I'm wondering about the etiquette for tipping.

I have always been the one standing at the door of a hotel room demanding cash from my reluctant or even indignant roommates to tip the maid.  

I'm a guy who insists that 15% is the rate a waitress gets if she climbs on the table and shits on my plate, stomping on my nuts on the way up (those would be BAD things, not requests), and we only go up from there.

I've been at restaurants and had to slap the hands of my tablemates as they try to pull their money back out of the tip pool after I contribute because "you put in enough just by yourself.

I'm not looking for congratulations, here, so please don't accuse me of doing so.  I'm just trying to establish where I'm coming from.

Tipping and the Hobby:  So what's the deal?

I guess my biggest worry is that I fear that by stepping into the hobby, I step into a world where I am likely outclassed financially.  

I've read at other places that for a hobbyist to be someone who can get repeat appointments without having to schedule a month out that he needs to tip at least $1000.

On the other hand, I've read at other places that tipping is not an expected part of the game and that if you tip you are basically seen as a mark by the provider.

Now, as I begin my journey into the hobby, I know I want to be the guy who tips when he is satisfied.  However, there is no way I could afford to be leaving tips of several hundred or a thousand dollars.

So what makes a fair tipper?  Is it 15, 50, 100 percent?  Is it true that a $1000 tipper is typical?  Does the amount you tip affect your reputation or get you preferred treatment in scheduling and other such things?

Say I'm very pleased and shoot for 100%, tipping a provider $300 on a $300 fee.  Am I going to be snickered at as I walk out the door?

Is there a certain amount below which a tip is considered a back-handed insult (e.g. a leaving exactly $1.00 on a big dining check), and it would have been better not to tip at all?

And yes, it is this kind of neuroticism and insecurity that keeps me from getting laid irl.  :oS


Thanks guys!

Tipping is NOT required, so long as you've selected a reputable lady that's not trying to rip you off.  If you're leaving as a happy guy, and want to show your appreciation, it's unlikely that any lady will turn her nose up at extra money.

Many guys, myself included, feel that the best tip is a repeat appointment.  Assuming that you have the ability to pull it off, scheduling the return as you leave is a pretty good tip IMHO.

There have been a few times that I've rounded up the amount to the nearest hundred, or even to the nearest 20, but that's more because I'm too lazy to break a bill than to think of it as a tip.

Now, for the $1000 tip to occur, I think that would most likely be for a week long date that went really well, or someone that had WAAAAAY more money than I do.

so if you are looking for endless hours of reading on the subject, type "tipping" into the subject line of the search engine and have fun.

There is a gamut of opinion from "no tipping at all" to "whatever".

Here's my system:

I typically tip about $50 an hour up to a maximum of about $200 for an overnight.

I find it works out very well.

My educated guess is that about half the clients don't tip at all.

As for $1000 tips, you've been watching too many movies.

Also, try to avoid that other misconception - agency gals deserve tips because they split the fee with the agency.  Of course they don't pay for the incall location, advertising, screening, the beer/wine she offers you, etc.

If you have a great time, and want to give her something extra - GREAT!!!  But never feel that you have too.

The replies range from yes, moderate tipping to never!  I've even gotten hate mail after responding that I do often tip!

My schedule is nearly identical to Mr Fisher above- I never give exhorbinant tips, but $50 - $100 is common for me.  Of course I don't if the experience wasn't exceptional.  I had one lady recently who is a long time known in my area who told me I was the first one who ever tipped her, which either told me she was feeding me a line of s*** or tipping is less common than I realized.

Then there is the whole agency versus independent argument that goes on frequently.  Some guys tip agency gals not independents saying they have to give some of their money to the agency where independents keep all theirs.

The argument I buy on that issue is that there should be no difference- if you tip, tip both.  After all, it is for the exceptional experience not who the employer is.  And the independents while not having to give percentage to the agency do have overhead in having to spend many more of their hours screening and verifying, pay for their incall, etc.

So...  you gotta consider all the info and decide for yourself.  As said above, with the real pros, it is not required but always appreciated!

I swear to god I read this on a regional board where I used to live called Hotty Totty.

This guy was complaining that the girls weren't into it with their working-class clients because an average Joe couldn't compete with the $1000 tippers.

I mean, now I read all your replies, and yeah, it sounds ridiculous.  But it made sense at the time!

Anyway, thanks for all the responses.  You guys are great.

Hottie Tottie is still there if a lot slower than it used to be.

$1000 tip?! If that were true it was probably a millionaire tipping someone for a whole week of fun.

The best tip is repeat business, I truly believe that. Especially for the ladies trying to build a solid client base and want to be lower volume. I am sure in this line of business, not knowing what your "paycheck" for the month will be can be very nerve wracking. Being a return client that she can rely on is the best tip.

b-

What about the difference in the woman's donation rates?  Does that factor into how much you tip her?   Say you have a $400 girl and a $1,200 girl?  Do you tip them the same?  different?  How much would you tip each?  
I have tipped in the past....but it's not an every time thing....and the $1,000 tip is ridiculous.  The girls I see think I'm generous and I have never given anywhere close to a $1,000 tip....what if you see her 20 times a year?  What are you going to spend $20,000 in tips?   Maybe, if you're taking her on a one week appointment, but the one week appointment might be the greatest tip of all anyway (a providers dream of seeing one client for an entire week of hours).

Not all agencies pay the in call fee. I don't know of any in Boston that do. Some pay half, some pay none at all. Some take a higher percentage than others as well.

I usually don't tip, but I do usually bring a small gift(s) to my appointments. I can't afford to tip $50 or $100 per date ( and I only hobby  monthly), so  I find giving a little gift is something that works for me, and I think it is appreciated.  However, I also feel that a repeat appointment is the best tip.

I guess it depends on the agency.

Yes, if they operate their incall out of hotel/motels or the gals home, yes she is likely to be paying the cost of the location.

However, there are agencies that provide the accommodation.  There are a few apartments around Phoenix where I have met more than one lady by calling the same number.

I have found no need to.

I have seen gals in the $700/hr range on two occasions and left the same tip level.

You could make a case that at that price range, no tipping should be necessary.

Both experiences were nice, but certainly not worth the extra money.

I just want to emphasize that a "little gift" can in fact be little.  Although I have noticed many ladies list fairly expensive potential gifts (my next appointment is with a lady who is asking for two Dell laptops), I once brought a single yellow rose to a date with a provider.  She acted like it was the sweetest thing a guy had ever done for her and it really seemed to inspire her performance.

To me, tipping is relative.

I've tipped double service fees to girls in Phuket, Thailand (a great place to visit, you can get a bungalo for 70 bucks a night and live like a damn king..), and Tijuana , Mexico, because they work for next to nothing (and are really gorgeous btw) .

I've had 10's in Tijuana go out of their way to make me happy, and of course, 60 bucks, can become 120 bucks, and it doesn't hurt me.

The reality in the states is a little different. Girls that are even half way decent want 3 c notes for an hour. This being said, I really don't find it necessary to tip after the fees push a grand. As, the earlier gentlemen said; If I book you again, that's your tip. exactly. At 500 an hour, or 1500 an hour, that's my logic. even at 300 an hour. It's not that I do not respect the girls, but even though I make a ton of cash, I have a budget for this hobby (around 20k a year). If this doesn't line-up with my pre-determined budget, they will not recieve it.

I literally quicken (software_) this hobby; I break down how many high-classed girls I can be with per year, and still afford this huge house, and beautiful car. Even if your not wealthy-ish you have to budget what it is you have.  I'm not Richard Gere throwing c notes at Julia Roberts in a suite.

IF I had Bill Gates money maybe I'd lay a few stacks of hundreds on them after the fact, the truth is, tipping should not be expected at all. You need to adjust the rate not expect or anticipate the average hobbyist to understand you need a tip. If you need or feel you deserve or work for more up that rate. That is not to say a gift (designer handbag, nice vickys' whatever they want .. is classy) I've bought these thingsfor ATF's and regulars. Follow your instict, just don't get played.

-m