The problem comes in where you tell her you'd like to possibly extend by 30 min, stay over 15 min & then do not compensate her for the time. When I'm told by someone that they might want to extend an appointment, when it runs over, then I naturally assume that I am going to be compensated for that time, without having to ask, since HE brought up the extended appointment first.
As others have stated, you may have rubbed her the wrong way, and she just didn't want to say anything, to see how you would handle the situation. You'll soon find out though, when you schedule your next appointment....
I hope everyone had a great X-Mas holiday, I'm a relatively new hobbyist and I have a newbie question for both providers and hobbyist's. I appreciate everyone's input and I'll take any advice I can get. Pretty straight forward question...what if your seeing provider XYZ and it is the second time you've seen her (everything went well the 1st time, 1st appointment was an 1.5 hours). She's well reviewed and according to reviews is not a clock watcher and never has been. For the 2nd appointment, you request 1 hour of her time and you place a hour donation in the envelope you leave for her, BUT you also let her know before hand that depending on how the appointment plays out, you could be looking to extend to an hour and a half and you'll take care of her if you decided to do that and not to worry about the clock and she says that possibly extending is fine and works with her schedule either way.
The basis for this question is due to the timing between cups. In my first appointment (ever) which was 1.5 hours, for cups 1 & 2, I didn't last as long as I wanted to and it wasn't until after the first 2 cups I finally was able to get some good stamina going. So the debate of the question is 1 hour vs. 1.5 hours or $$$ vs. $$$$. I also thought 1.5 hours was pretty long in general, but I needed it to get up for the 3rd time. However, for this second appointment I'm thinking I get cup 1 out of the way 30-40minutes before hand if you know what I mean.
Question 1) What is the longest you should wait (within that 1st hour) to decide to tell her you want another 30 minutes (i.e. 45 minutes in)?
Question 2) What if you don't end up telling her you want to extend at all and the appointment ends up going over 10-15 minutes. She doesn't say anything and never mentions anything about the donation at the end of the appointment because she's high class and an awesome provider. What is appropriate to do at this point? Factoring into the decision is the fact that I'm going to continue to see this provider regularly (i.e. once a month) and I'm going to continue to give her my business.
Let me know what you think, I appreciate everyone's input.
First, I would suggest that you tell her as early as possible that you want to extend the appointment. To wait until the end might indeed work if she has already told you she has nothing else on her dance card. But each gal is unique in how they like to handle this, so you need to get a feel for that as the session progresses.
Now to your second question. You will quickly end up on her DNS list to say the least. Going over and NOT compensating her for it is NOT good form. She didn't say anything this time, but you better believe it was noted! And to give her the line "I'll be a good long term customer" is a line she hears alot! And more often than not it is BS.
If you know you need 90 minutes schedule 90 minutes. Word tends to travel VERY quickly in these parts, and if you are known as the "guy that always steals 15-20 minutes" you will find yourself not getting future appointments, from this gal and any of her friends.
I sell my time as well, and I suspect you're the guy that pays for the hour of tax consulting, but you keep on chatting after you've paid for my hour. And you have the audacity to ask "You're not going to charge me for this, are you?". Nope..I won't, but I also want you to go away...quickly! And I have NO problem slamming the door on your ass on the way out!
Read more on this board and you'll find out that the route you are seeking (free overtime) is commonplace. But it will buy you a one-way ticket to being ostracized.
started... on her dime. If you want to go for more cups & run over, you'd better drop her a tip to equal the time rate. This is a friendly business but friends do NOT take advantage of friends. You've got to trust her (remember where her teeth are) & she has to trust you. H
but is suggesting that to get the 3rd (third) pop he needs extra time. Now I may just be a jealous SOB (getting a second shot doesn't happen very often for me), but the gals I've chatted with have a major issue with a John who likes to "extend" to get even a second shot off. Especially if it is with only fifteen minutes left in a session.
Where a guy has asked a gal to "work" the entire 90+ minutes and then go over (for free) is a major issue for the gals I know. Hopefully he is choosing gals who are OK with this behavior if he wants to continue with this type of session. I suspect that eventually he will find the gal who will show him the door...leaving her shoe imprint in his fanny.
Its understandable that you want to increase the time in your visit with a provider depending on the service and experience. However, you have seen this lady more than once. What I typically do is, I book the extra time. I don't request extra time impromptu. Some ladies have other appointments, and you have to be mindful of that.
To answer your questions. Question #1, I don't make impromptu extensions. I make them before hand. Its just something that I've learned throughout the years.
Question #2, I have been in these similar situations before, and I also go over time. Even though she may be a high class provider, you still have to be mindful of her time. If you go over 15 minutes, be considerate of that. I've went over 15-30 minutes on several occasions. Her services are not free, even though she made no indications of it. The best thing to do is to tip her what her rates are for the time spent.
A few suggestions, if you want to have your "cups", book the extra time before hand, this causes less confusion. If you do go over the time, tip her. Her time is not free. Its always a service, please keep that in mind.
Like any other place, if you go over the time limit, you get charged for it, and if you don't plan ahead, how do you expect to get the time you wanted. Just my .02 cents.
Getting off 3 cups may not be possible. Ask for and pay the provider for a 1.5 hour appointment, like the first time. Some men get off better from some positions like doggy. Go with the position that you get off best first after getting about 10 minutes of BBBJ to warm up. If you can't get a second cup done within the first hours and have 30 minutes to try for a third, you may be only good for 2 cups. Your body's sexual history is cummulative. Older men are more prone to reaching their limit on cups faster than younger, healthier men. Unless you come too quickly, beating off 30-40 minutes before may mean that you have one less cup to give when the real action starts. There are exceptions, you must know yourself and work with that.
The problem comes in where you tell her you'd like to possibly extend by 30 min, stay over 15 min & then do not compensate her for the time. When I'm told by someone that they might want to extend an appointment, when it runs over, then I naturally assume that I am going to be compensated for that time, without having to ask, since HE brought up the extended appointment first.
As others have stated, you may have rubbed her the wrong way, and she just didn't want to say anything, to see how you would handle the situation. You'll soon find out though, when you schedule your next appointment....
Thanks for all your responses. Just to clarify, the 2nd appointment I spoke of was just a hypothetical. It actually hasn't occurred yet (I've scheduled it for next week), I apologize if I wasn't clear in my initial question. I just wanted to get advice on how to approach the timing issue on my 2nd appointment. From reading the responses, it seems pretty unanimous and I think I get it now. Thanks again to everyone for responding.
Sounds like you're way over thinking this. Time is money whether it be your time or her time so we all need to be respectful of each others time.
I'm fairly new to this as well and found that many sessions were going o/t so I quote my time value as an hourly and also as a 90min. Anything over 10min, clients are expected to pay the 90min rate. As someone mentioned, use common sense an be fair..always! Now you know!
nearly 10 years. When I first started I was like you, trying to get 2 or maybe 3 cups in an hour (for 2) or 90 minute (for 3) date.
Now, I value the journey as well as the destination. If I am able to get MSOG (getting older, but in better physical shape than 10 years ago), great; usually happens about one out of every three dates. But as long as I have a great experience, I am a happy man. I do know that someday the equipment will not work any more and I want to enjoy all that I can.
I realize you may not be sure what your dick will want, but you have to deal with that, not her.
There are circumstances when appointments run long and I have not paid for the extra time, but that is only when the lady suggests it. I arrive on time, and try to leave on time. If I ask her if we can go 60 or 90, and then we go over 60, I pay for 90. Because she is reserving that time for me, as I requested. Otherwise you look like you are trying to scam her.
A lovely lady taught me this lesson, and while it pissed me off at the time, she was completely correct to ask to be paid for the extra time we had discussed and I used.
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