pretty sure if you did not provide the service you requested you should write a review based on that, so others would be careful when dealing with her. If she promised to refund half your money but didn't, I don't think you can even consider her honest or trustworthy, and thus you should write a honest review based on what happened to you.
Hey Hey!
Here's the story:
The other night I saw a provider whom I had been emailing with for sometime and finally our schedules coincided. She is well reviewed and has been providing for some years, but has been working intermittently for awhile now. We had been emailing again for a few days and had a few near hits, I was trying to schedule her for 2 hours. Finally she was able to come visit me and I was excited. We made a date for 10:30pm, she took a car to mine and was a bit late due to traffic. Showing up about 10:50.
She comes in, she's gorgeous and sweet. I give her a quick tour, we hang out on the couch for few minutes starting kissing, she confirms how long I would like her to stay and I say 2hours. She goes to the bathroom, changes and we move to the bedroom. Play around for about 40 minutes until my first pop. Completely lovely 1st meeting so far. She gets up goes to the bathroom...totally normal. Comes back and shes back in the dress she came in with. Now I am in a post coital daze, very happy with the time we've spent, I was a little confused but didn't really say anything. We chatted as she finished getting dressed, she grabbed the envelope containing my gift for 2hrs. And was then out the door. She sent me a text minutes later, telling me how nice it was to finally see me we sent some back and forth and I was still in a happy daze but getting steadily confused. So about a half an hour goes by and I send her a text saying that she stayed for 50 minutes but walked away with 2hrs. She apologizes profusely, and says she feels terrible and will paypal me half back tomorrow. Its been 3 days and that still hasn't happened. I sent her a few texts and an email with no reply. I wanted to write her a nice review but am I guessing I wont do so now. I'm guessing there will be a flurry of critique but any advice thoughts would be more than welcome. thx in advance.
pretty sure if you did not provide the service you requested you should write a review based on that, so others would be careful when dealing with her. If she promised to refund half your money but didn't, I don't think you can even consider her honest or trustworthy, and thus you should write a honest review based on what happened to you.
You are completely entitled to write a review . I would contact her one more time and tell her you are writing a review and want to tell everyone how wonderful she really is but your having some trouble doing that without including the " mistake" can we please figure this out so I can say how wonderful of a time we had without adding the mistake to the review/
I suggest saying it this way because SHE Knows it is in her best interest but your not using any language that is instigating or harsh if she does not respond by all means include this in your review . Good luck Kendall Lynn
Maybe it was just an honest mistake oon her part. She can return the money or if you two had such a good time and you want to see her again maybe she will OTC the additional hour to you then.
Yeah, this is along the lines of what I was thinking. I would like to chalk it up to her being flaky and the whole thing being a "mistake".
Write a review. It reports all that happened. Please if we write false reviews then we aint helping each other out as hobbyists. Don't just write a review, in fact write a honest one for that matter.
You should definitely write the review and even post a thread about her here in this forum. The purpose of this board is to share information and providers like her need to be warned about. The providers have their own board to warn others about troublesome clients. We only have here. She should be outed to warn others. You said she is well reviewed, so I assume you found her reviews here. If you had read that she behaves this way, would you have still scheduled a session with her? She is trouble and gives all providers a bad name.
I'm guessing that someone who would cut your session so short like that isn't the type of person who would give you your money back. You see this type of thing all the time. She just doesn't seem like the type of person who cares.
You could give her another chance to do the right thing and explain that you will be writing a review of exactly what happened, but she hasn't been responding so far, so this probably confirms the type of person she is, which is unfortunate.
If she doesn't do it, you should absolutely write a review. Don't rant. Just write what happened. Your fellow hobbyists will greatly appreciate it.
She definitely ripped you off and I think you should write a review of what happened.
However, be prepared because she will contact TER claiming is a fake review, blah blah blah.
So you better have some proof of what was discussed with her, yours and hers text messages saved, in case TER contacts you to verify the review.
On an unrelated story, a well reviewed girl I know personally (I used to send LOTS of clients to her), did a similar shit with one of my ATFs.
I am not going into details, but she conned him out of a 1,000 bucks session. He paid in advance and she didn't honor the engagement.
I found out because she told me the incident while we were having some drinks. She was laughing about how much of an idiot the guy was, but she didn't say his name.
Then, couple weeks later during one of his visits, he told me what happened. I was truly shocked that he was person she ripped off.
He didn't post a review of her, I think because he saw how horrified I was about the whole situation, specially because I was the one sending him to her.
In my case, I could not report her to no one, because I was a third party, but you can warn others about her behavior.
I don't think she is out there to con every guy she meets, but she used bad judgement and was an opportunist when she scammed you out of your money
Thats a real shame. I really much prefer it when there is as little avarice in this world as possible, especially in this hobby. Thanks for sharing.
I just checked my phone log and my it looks like my phone erased my texts, its set to clear every so often. So that sucks! I'm not so bothered by the money here as I am by the situation, the opportunism and how it made me feel. The session was lovely just up to the last 5 minutes.
Before you post anything about this lady, first contact her again and make sure all is written and demand a response for her within 72 hours.
If she doesn't respond or just say give me more time to give your money back, set up a deadline and tell her if you don't get your money, the review will be up.
Save all text exchanges to back up any claims that might arise.
If she is on this board, chances are she will read your post and, to keep her reputation, she might make some kind of arrangements with you.
Now, if you don't want to go through a pissing match with her, just consider this situation as a loss but share her information with other guys (by PM only).
Good luck!
I just checked my phone log and my it looks like my phone erased my texts, its set to clear every so often. So that sucks! I'm not so bothered by the money here as I am by the situation, the opportunism and how it made me feel. The session was lovely just up to the last 5 minutes.
So this is partially your fault. When she came out of the bathroom clothed, that was your time to tell her she has an hour to go or to refund you the second hour.
Then you waited for another half hour to tell her after she texted you? Why?
Kiss your $ goodbye. The chances that you will ever be repaid are very slim. I hope you learned your lesson.
Where was your head when she appeared from the bathroom dressing. Dont give us the story of post coital bliss - you were so enamored with the girl that you didnt have the balls to tell her anything and let her walk with your money. Kiss it goodbye, she saw a sucker and played you for what you were.
Text her that she woes you a free 1:10 mins and see if she will trade her time for the cash she owes you. I doubt it.
I would write a review, but you were the fool to allow her to walk without saying anything in the beginning that this was 2 hrs booked or at the end when she took the envelope clothed and was out the door.
WC Fields said a sucker is born every minute and you were a 50 minute sucker.
Then you waited for another half hour to tell her after she texted you? Why?
Kiss your $ goodbye. The chances that you will ever be repaid are very slim. I hope you learned your lesson.
What she did was wrong, and you should reflect that in a review so she might not have the chance to do it to others. But you've got to take some responsibility for your own role here too. You knew she didn't come out of the bathroom dressing because she was just going to pop out for some more condoms -- she was leaving less than an hour into a session you and she had agreed would be two hours, and you should have said something right then and there. She probably justified it to herself because you didn't try to stop her. I wouldn't chase her for the money, which will likely just aggravate her more. Just call it an expensive lesson, and comfort yourself with the fact that you can help out others with an honest, factual review.
But everyone that has commented before me is saying just about what I would be saying....
Review are designed for two things.... Let others know the good and or let others know the bad. In this case, writing your review base on your experience will be a very good thing for the community - you are making all of us aware of this providers actions and thus we'll steer clear of her. This is a solid method to get her to shape up or ship out.
Sorry this happened to you. Better luck next time.
-nycad
Here's the story:
The other night I saw a provider whom I had been emailing with for sometime and finally our schedules coincided. She is well reviewed and has been providing for some years, but has been working intermittently for awhile now. We had been emailing again for a few days and had a few near hits, I was trying to schedule her for 2 hours. Finally she was able to come visit me and I was excited. We made a date for 10:30pm, she took a car to mine and was a bit late due to traffic. Showing up about 10:50.
She comes in, she's gorgeous and sweet. I give her a quick tour, we hang out on the couch for few minutes starting kissing, she confirms how long I would like her to stay and I say 2hours. She goes to the bathroom, changes and we move to the bedroom. Play around for about 40 minutes until my first pop. Completely lovely 1st meeting so far. She gets up goes to the bathroom...totally normal. Comes back and shes back in the dress she came in with. Now I am in a post coital daze, very happy with the time we've spent, I was a little confused but didn't really say anything. We chatted as she finished getting dressed, she grabbed the envelope containing my gift for 2hrs. And was then out the door. She sent me a text minutes later, telling me how nice it was to finally see me we sent some back and forth and I was still in a happy daze but getting steadily confused. So about a half an hour goes by and I send her a text saying that she stayed for 50 minutes but walked away with 2hrs. She apologizes profusely, and says she feels terrible and will paypal me half back tomorrow. Its been 3 days and that still hasn't happened. I sent her a few texts and an email with no reply. I wanted to write her a nice review but am I guessing I wont do so now. I'm guessing there will be a flurry of critique but any advice thoughts would be more than welcome. thx in advance.
One of my first hobby experiences something like that happened to me. I was too naive/stupid to stop it it immediately.
Years later it happened again. I paid a provider a premium for Greek. I paid it and then she didn't deliver (said I was too big - nice for the ego but probably bullshit).
When the session was over I politely said to her "I would like for you to refund my $100 for the Greek since we didn't go there".
She had a pissed off look on her face then gave me back the $100. Probably lied about me on the Providers boards too boot.
Do you think I feel bad. Not in the least fucking bit.
Here is what you should have done and here is what you do NOW:
* Next time this happens get the fuck out of the post coital daze immediately STAND UP AND SAY EXCUSE ME BUT I PAID FOR 2 HOURS SINCE YOU ARE LEAVING I NEED MY 2ND HOUR FEE BACK NOW!!! - do not let her stay for the 2nd hour - you will not like it
* Send her a text tell her that you want the refund within the next 24 hours or you plan to out her on TER. Add that you have all the texts and you will send them to the Admin along with your review. DO NOT ACCEPT ANY BULLSHIT ABOUT I DON'T HAVE THE $$$$ - that's her problem not yours.
* Why you are not outing her immediately is beyond any fucking reasoning. You got ripped off and you refuse to name her is just silly. This confirms one of my theories. Some guys in this life are just so fucking happy to get laid they will put up with almost anything. Sometimes I think these Providers just laugh at us and think we are fucking losers because of shit like this
When you hold a good hand many times honey gets you more than vinegar. Stop putting your pathetic ego into everything; not every woman in the world is out to fuck you but, if it seems that way you better look in the mirror. You just may find the problem.
Typically when clients don't specify a time in our emails I assume that the appointment is for an hour.
I went to meet with my client, left a little over an hour later, everything seemed fine. I peeked inside the envelope on the way to the elevator and saw that there was significantly more money than I had expected. I went straight back to his room and asked him about it and he said he thought I would be there for 2 hours, so I returned half of the money and left.
I was shocked that he never said anything to me about it, and let me leave the room with 2x more than I should have had. You should have just brought it up while she was there with you.
You would have returned to find me gently sobbing into my pillow if you left early. LOL
I think before we all burn the bitch at the stake that Im thinking theres more to the story. Its very simple for guys to exaggerate circumstances after the session I had a client that arrived in the room 7 minutes after the hour cause HE got lost and when the hour session was up with 3 minutes over the hour he complained that he didn't get up to the room till 25 minutes after and was only given 40 minutes of a session.
This is just an example, kind of off subject and not saying this is the case with the OP but just saying theres two sides to every story. For all you know the OP could be full of shit, I find it hard to believe he just sat there and was SO confused and so shocked and couldn't believe what had just happened, coincidentally his phone just erased their text messages. She also has to be a pretty ballsy bitch to rip the guy off and then send him a text right AFTER that says thanks for everything or whatever and then it takes the OP 30 Minutes to finally text her something. Why wouldn't you have said something right after she texted you thanking you for the lovely time. Something stinks here.......!! In the event that Im wrong, sorry but story just seems a little off.
The situation is on its way to being resolved. She finally replied and hopefully the plan we have in place will be followed through on.
I appreciate all of the advice I have received, I think the best, most balanced and reasonable advice was from Kendall. I pretty much followed that advice sending the provider another email and text and she got back to the text. There is also a fair amount of conjecture, distrust of my truthfullness and criticism in some of the comments. I agree, I should have said something right away. But the fact is I didn't. The reasons I gave where "post coital bliss" and "confusion" which are both pretty accurate of my state. Basically a disconnect from what was a very enjoyable session with a young lady, no alarms went off at all(She was cordial, very easy to communicate with and fun) and her taking off early. My intention was not to create a bad name for anyone or "to burn the bitch at the stake", it was to help gain some prespective on the situation in order for me to deal with it in the most diplomatic manner possible. I also agree with "Stalkermuch" that there are "two sides of every story". Yet I obviously disagree with Stalkermuch's assesment that I am being dishonest in my telling of my side. Again I am not trying to burn anyone, I am trying to resolve a situation in which I felt cheated. Once this is resolved in full, I let you know what went down.
Thx!!
This is just an example, kind of off subject and not saying this is the case with the OP but just saying theres two sides to every story. For all you know the OP could be full of shit, I find it hard to believe he just sat there and was SO confused and so shocked and couldn't believe what had just happened, coincidentally his phone just erased their text messages. She also has to be a pretty ballsy bitch to rip the guy off and then send him a text right AFTER that says thanks for everything or whatever and then it takes the OP 30 Minutes to finally text her something. Why wouldn't you have said something right after she texted you thanking you for the lovely time. Something stinks here.......!! In the event that Im wrong, sorry but story just seems a little off.
By starting this thread you put into action what TER is all about... People in this community spoke up and it is possible that, in conjunction with you reaching out to her again, the gal in question saw this thread and realized the negative affect her actions would have on her business. Realizing this, she probably decided it was best to right her wrong - what ever way that the both of you decided would be appropriate to work it out.
Again, this reinforces the power of an open forum to discuss problems and find the right solutions.
Hopefully you won't ever find yourself in this kind of situation again.
-nycad
You book 2....they give ya an OK 1 and then dress and leave hoping you are too shy or intimidated to say anything about them slipping out an hour early.
Happen to me in SD once. Really a hot babe. We had a good 1 hour and then she began the getting ready to leave routine. I picked up on it and calmly mentioned before she was dressed enough to bolt that we had scheduled 2 hours and the envelope had her 2 hr rate in it.
"Oh" she exclaimed. I thought it was 1 hr...I have another appt coming up". I by now am standing in front of the door.
"Well , I'm still up for the extra hour if you want to call him and let him know you are gonna be late" I reply.
"I can't " she says..."he's a reg" Then she digs out the envelope and returns the additional hr amount of the fee. She then continues to ready herself ...gives me a peck on the cheek and thanks me for a great time as she left.
No doubt in my mind she had done this before and probably usually worked.
Just consider your experience a lesson earned