"used to tip all the time and not one provider ever said, "Oh, thank you."
Exactly! The vast, vast majority of escorts do not respect guys who pay for play(cause they automatically think you suck with women and therefore have no attraction to you), which is why you won't be thanked, why in some cases you'll be rushed, why 98% won't ever be into the session(even if they pretend to be), or whatever the case may be.
I've NEVER once tipped. What for? You'd be an idiot to. It makes no sense. As already stated, she already has set her price. Plus, most escorts are overpriced as it is. Don't let any escort manipulate you into thinking you have to tip, like VipBea is so miserably failing at in this thread. Smarten up guys and quit being chumps.
here are some of my rules and let me know what you think---
i tend not to add to the donation when seeing an indy with a rate of $400+....
i always tip at the AMP's $20-$50
agency girls $50-$100 based on the hourly rate and the service provided
i have rarely tipped the girls i see on a regular basis
i always tip outside of nyc
i never tip tantra
i always tip a FBSM girl if additional services are offered, whether accepted or not
i always tip someone for a housecall on their way out
i never tip if an upsell is taking place
i have on occasion tipped on a bait and switch
i never tip when i am asked to tip
but does it get you better service?
Probably yes if you're about to come back
This is not any different than any other service related business. You tip if you are a happy customer, you got a great service and you appreciate her effort and all the extra attention and care you got that she didn't have to go out of her way to give to you to make sure you are as happy and satisfied as you can be. But again, there are wonderful men around, complete joy to be with, as much as real jerks and anything in between.
I ALWAYS, and ALWAYS thank a client when I am tipped even if it is a minimal symbolic tip. It always helps and I truly appreciate it.
And YES, definitely without any doubt you get a better service when you return if you are a tipping client. Generally if you are a returning client you always get a better service (at least from me), if you are a great tipper and a returning client then the world is yours. You will get the very best of me.
by this logic if the client returns and hasn't tipped they can expect a service not as good as it could've been.
i quote "all the extra attention and care you got that she didn't have to go out of her way to give to you" again "that she didn't have to go out of her way to give to you," even though you are paying for the service at the agreed upon rate.
perhaps the answer is to give a rate quote with the limits of what to expect like BBBj will be for five minutes, cg for ten minutes unless of course there is extra monetary incentive in which case BBBJ will be for ten minutes etc.
just where is the incentive for a client to return or even set an appointment the first time knowing that if they don't tip the service isn't going to be as good as if they had tipped.
so in conclusion, essentially they are paying for a service that is not as good as it could be. unless, of course, if they pay more than what rate has been quoted.
I ALWAYS, and ALWAYS thank a client when I am tipped even if it is a minimal symbolic tip. It always helps and I truly appreciate it.
And YES, definitely without any doubt you get a better service when you return if you are a tipping client. Generally if you are a returning client you always get a better service (at least from me), if you are a great tipper and a returning client then the world is yours. You will get the very best of me.
you either do not have the capacity to understand what is meant or you have wayyy too much time in your hands and nothing better to do than amateurish sloppy word play.
This is a service business. You are not dealing with robots, and you cannot quantify what transpires between two people. How old are you? Have you been born yesterday or just an adolescent only recently discovering sex? Even if a man clearly is not able to see it, I still give them excellent service and they never return dissatisfied after seeing me. (despite the fact that I am a thorough professional, I will never see a jerk twice, btw, EVER) BUT giving your all does not mean that.
Giving your ALL includes intangible and unquantifiable that it is crystal clear that you have no idea what.
When you like and enjoy someone it shows, when you are dealing with a true gentleman vs an animal it shows..it shows as day and night between two service quality...that is on top of being professional and giving generally an excellent service and building a reputation of giving an excellent service. When you are treated like gold (tipping generously is a part of that, duh!) of course you will treat them like gold in return plus you will have the time of your life, and of course will reciprocate with all your generosity.
Clear now? even for you?
again your words not mine, "all the extra attention and care you got that she didn't have to go out of her way to give to you" again "that she didn't have to give to you," meaning that a hobbyist is expected to to give a provider the rate she asks for but the provider isn't expected to give the best she has to give. that comes with extra incentive.
again your words, "that she didn't have to go out of her way to give to you" implying that even though the hobbyist is giving $$$$ he or she shouldn't expect to get what they are paying for, only what the provider is willing to give
so again i ask why go see such a provider who doesn't feel they have to give their best.
i am self employed and there are times sure that i feel a client may not have received the best i had to give because i was sick or tired or injured. but i never go in with the preconception that i'm not going to give the best service i can. or that i deserve more than what i charge so i won't give a client the extra attention.
but by your own words that comes with extra incentive
learn to choose your words well, clear now, even for you, duh
*Somebody's best* is NOT for sale. It is NOT contracted for nor can it be demanded. Somebody's best is their soul. You are too dumb and too jaded to understand the concept. Why am I not surprised, I already knew from your first words about some irrelevant topic to someone else. Yes, we are here to give a service. But it is a service, that's all. If there is no connection it will be like a job, client will get what they want but will not be enjoyed by me and I make sure it will not be repeated. My peace of mind is NOT for sale, neither my joy of life and enjoyment that I get from what I do. If the man is a jerk and treats me like sh*t, oh I can and I will simply walk away so fast your head will spin. I can sense those though at the first email stage and never give them the chance. Some may sneak in which they did, happened only once or twice at the beginning of my adventure in this business, and they know I don't allow anyone to treat me with less than perfectly gentlemanly way. Get it through your thick scull? Simple enough even for you? I don't think so but I can't simplify further sorry for you..
all i did was cut and paste what you wrote on the subject. i never got nasty and called you names. and i didn't question your intelligence. i don't know where this idea of jerks who treat you like sh*t came from. that was never any part of anyone's post. and about the emails and etc. sounds like someone working out other issues. your words were up there to quote, next time choose more wisely and stick to the subject and don't get personal when no one else is. from the other posts on this subject it is evident that more here agree with the points my posts have made. good luck with your issues.
people watching may not be able to tell the difference"..
'Nuff said? 
used to tip all the time and not one provider ever said, "Oh, thank you." or something to that effect. just counted the cash and put it away. haven't tipped in ages. the provider is setting a rate if they want more cash let them raise their rate. of course, if they do that then the hobbyist might not want to see them. setting a rate and then having the expectation of receiving more cash is disingenuous (not that the whole hobby situation isn't disingenuous to begin with.)
oh yes, rule number one, "Remember, you're paying!"
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Agreed that I don't tip independent. They can freely set their own rates and they are owner/operator of their business.
Agency girls I may tip occasionally if she's a repeat especially since her cut of the donation is less than half.
"used to tip all the time and not one provider ever said, "Oh, thank you."
Exactly! The vast, vast majority of escorts do not respect guys who pay for play(cause they automatically think you suck with women and therefore have no attraction to you), which is why you won't be thanked, why in some cases you'll be rushed, why 98% won't ever be into the session(even if they pretend to be), or whatever the case may be.
I've NEVER once tipped. What for? You'd be an idiot to. It makes no sense. As already stated, she already has set her price. Plus, most escorts are overpriced as it is. Don't let any escort manipulate you into thinking you have to tip, like VipBea is so miserably failing at in this thread. Smarten up guys and quit being chumps.
Tipping: If they work for a house then there is a split with the house, so the girl is not getting the full fee, so a tip is warranted for great service to compensate for the split.
If she is an indie, quotes a rate, thats the rate. She is the owner. She is getting the ful amount for the full services provided. If her services do nto meet up withthe expectations and fee charges, then she is not repeated.
No need to tip indies, they are the owner and boss. No one tips the owmer of the restaurant because the food was good, but you tip the water, not earning a decent salary for the services provided.
oh yes, rule number one, "Remember, you're paying!"
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Tipping can be weird and I don't mind doing it, if we keep things to the hourly room visit. However, be careful , if you click with a chic, and all of a sudden you're in Vegas spending the weekend. You don't want to be spending big bucks on a trip and she is now expecting a nice tip, bc you started her up with the hourly thing!!!
i was simply sharing some experiences i have had...if you read how, when and if i tip, the majority of the nonsensical and somewhat angry responses could and should have been tempered...i just think that the anonymous responders are a bunch of cowards...show your face if you want any credibility or respect
A tip is really a gratuity to a service provider to show appreciation, end of story. If you really want to analyze what a tip can be that is up to each person.
I personally give a gift to a provider like sexy lingerie if I want to spice up thingsl for a short visit. Now if a provider takes the lingerie without putting it on in front of me (one provider left the room and cameback wearing it which doesn't count as it since the increase of my arousal is skipped) or just takes it, puts it away and says thank you, I find I just wasted my money on the gift as it may actually not be appreciated. When asked if I would like to see it on them I always say if you want to put it on for me please do so, but stress that it is a gift for them. The act of giving something at the start of a session is entice the provider for better service which is not guarenteed and often enough not received.
Clothing, flowers, candy, wine/spirits, music CD's, etc are considered a gift as well as a tip. Tips do not need to be cash, but most give cash as they aren't sure of what to give. If a provider doesn't accept a gift in lieu of cash than maybe she's not as down to earth as you would like. If I see no appreciation for the gift I know better to not give her anything again. If I give a cash tip it is always after I receive exceptional service that may have been personalized just for me (had a massuese that didn't do any extras give me a GFE session because she wanted more just as mujch as me).
If there is upsell or added donation for addition sevice features I almost never tip. That is how I am, like or not. Providers who ask for a cash tip, to me are like a physicikan asking for a tip and that's not a person I woujld like to see again.
I could not have said it better myself. Period.
If you get exceptional service, if she went out of her way just for you to personalize the whole time for you, and you see she is all that you can ask for giving you her best, yeah, of course you tip.
Tip can be cash or gift, whatever..
Some men know how to be civilized, how to deserve special treatment and they get it vs, yes, being just a neanderthal augurs nobody like to see.
This is a good list of recommendations, especially for a newbie or someone trying a new type of service.
I have had providers thank me for tipping before. I suppose it depends on the demeanor of the girl, the atmosphere during the session, etc.
More to the point, though, providers are in this business mostly for the money. Let's not kid ourselves. If you're seeing an agency girl and you don't tip, they'll remember. And if you return, it will impact the service you receive. In fact, you'll get a reputation within the agency, because they do talk to each other about their clients.
Similarly, to Alfalfa's point, if a provider provides services beyond expectations (his example was an FBSM girl providing "extra" services), there's an expectation that she'll get compensated for it. If she doesn't, and you return for another session, you're not likely to get those "extras" again.
After all, it's only fair.