I scan throuth the ads. rates are most if not all 400 and up. WTF. After three years of hobbying, it is time to get out because the rates are too damn hight.

The price of living is going up--and if a girl works with an agency, she most likely only sees $200 of that. Sadly, most of the girls you get for less than that--you probably don't want to have at all.

Brooke

Every provider has the right to set her rates as she deems appropriate, and every hobbyist has the right to decide if it`s worth it...

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...now to read 400hr+ is too high is sorta funny.  Usually when I read rates are too high threads it just really screams to me "I'm mad I don't have enough to afford this as much as I want".

I have been considering taking a sabbatical from the hobby myself.  It's putting pressure on my finances.  The hunt for the right price point for the right gal is tough enough, but then scheduling on my restricted time scale as well as dealing with disappointments after all that has me disheartened.  Traveling to NYC to hobby is rough and the LI scene is mostly BP or visitors who are out of my price range.

I know the gals are in it to make money.  If they feel they have to charge exorbitant rates to stay in business and enjoy the lifestyle to which they are accustomed, then good for them.  Have fun.  It just won't be with me.  I wish I owned a Ferrari but I know I never will.  I wish I had the money (and the time) to go on 3 month long vacations to Hawaii or Europe or Fiji.  I wish I had the cash to spend but I don't.    

I came to TER a few years ago, a lifelong monger who has seen ladies for pay since I was 19 years old.  (I am in my 40's now) Not always the best quality ladies but not always the worst either.  I've seen gals in Queens, Brooklyn, Long Island, Manhattan, upstate NY.  Some gorgeous GFE's who were worth way more than I spent and some downright horrors who weren't worth half a cent over the years.  I have grown as a hobbyist and have refined my tastes to the upper end of the scale.  (Who wouldn't give the choice).  I no longer use BP at all.  Haven't in over a year.  Yet there are still one or two ladies I have met that way that I remember fondly and sometimes still call. I may have only 11 reviews on TER but my numbers are probably closer to over 500 or 600 in 27 years.  (Always been safe, tested regularly) Does this make me a male slut?  I don't know, maybe.  I've probably spent more in the hobby than I should have or else maybe I'd have a better financial situation now.

My problems are not your problems.  My situation does not dictate your prices.  Yours does.

I always try to be the nice guy.  I usually get burned but dammit I'm not a bad boy and never will be.  Hobbying is my way of getting the sex I crave on a more regular basis than my wife is willing to give.  If I'm paying high prices, I'm not getting more, and I might as well stay home and masturbate.  Get divorced, find somebody else who fucks you more often...  Nope.  I'd be financially ruined, not to mention the fact that even though she's not an overly sexual being, my wife is my best friend in the world.  When she's hot for it, she's the best lay in the world... She just usually isn't.  Likewise, I've got kids, don't wanna break up the family.  So my UTR fucking around in the hobby is what has kept my 16 year marriage strong actually.  Maybe I'm fooling myself.  Whatever.

This post has rambled on far too long.  Fact is if I could find a regular lay (for a reasonable price) in my neighborhood with NSA I'd quit the hobby tomorrow.

You can definitely find good girls for cheap you just have to go to the ghetto  
or like Asian and Spanish girls, check backpage or pm me.

If you can spend 400 or 500 you can spend an hour with a 9.
If you have an extra 500 than it's more than worth it.  
In a city where a decent meal and 2 drinks is over 100 and a decent apartment rents for 3k
I think there are good girls for everyone, I have lots of fun with the cheap girls also, but it's different.
With them they see so many guys in a day, it's just a quickie when you spend more money  
You have more time, you can really fuck them properly

With the stock marketing declining, infestations are a coming

lets  say in 1980   what kind of buyer   power it has .. so  
 if you use this link
 http://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm
 and enter 400 for 1980 it will give you $1,154  dollars of buyer power ..
 and in year of 2000 it was  552 dollars  
 in year of 2005 it is 487 dollars ..
 so you can see and yourself when true ressession  occurs  and if there is any  base for providers to raise dramatically NOW in now days  rates .. ..
 Any one is likely, to determine our own worth basing on which level  of Maslow Hierarchy person is  

. so   as to me - there no reasons economical reasons for providers raise sharply prices after 1980  
 but  fact that you see here us become more expensive tells you only one - we have satisfied out basic needs ..
 and O my darling men you do not want see women who are still need satisfy basic needs and as one wise poster said here  
 there are girls and under 200 but you do not want see them
 
 I think about many women here are those who are above of poverty  line and can  do well and with no dependency of 300 400 customers .. but truly enjoy what they do - be a courtesans  by call of ... heart .. hahhah call of Kitty ..
those  women here are just unique and you are lucky men have  them available for you ..
again
link is here  calculate inflation - and think yourself again WHY we become more pricy? I do not think it is economics .. it is just American system of living becoming better band better and many people can here make their  dreams come to true .. so you as loyal americans just have to be vey proud that you women here are soooo expensive !!! if make your worth as men way way higher !!!
We women with our own high price - lifting up you  too.. you can enjoy the best what world has .. nit just your back page in your county  
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 http://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm
 love to everybody  even to my haters:
 hope they will become more openminded and kindhearted
 Kissess  and life is a pleasure  


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does not sound sound to bad ?
 and it is with no any adjustment on woman s social level - where she is and which needs she satisfies for herself and for you - everybody i think already satisfied basic needs in states so made it here..
 so  it is just pure math .. 400= 1154 adjust that to sociological factors  it becomes easy to be 3000  
 for American born college graduated woman who is over of satisfying her basic needs
Question is for gentlemen .. of you are ok with you f*ing" desperate soul for little as here one one mentioned asian and spanish

Who are you American hobbyists ?
 Who you are American man?

 Show us your treasures ... what are those??  Your heart? your mind? your social status ? or just you are assets? or may be your ...   sex drive?  
I fond out that the biggest asset of American men is common sense and firm system of evaluation of everything. You very well know what worth now much And I love it .. by the way your strong sense of reality and reasoning
 it is very fair  
Kissess
 kissess

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If you think our rates are bad try paying 400 so you have a nice hotel room to see your client in. I'm a big believer in atmosphere being a huge part of your appointment. It costs quite a bit of money to have a lovely appointment. If a girl is charging less she is probably seeing a high volume, and there goes your laid back no rush session.  

Kisses
Alana

No one is underpaid or overpaid. Pay/rates are determined by what someone offers and what someone accepts. Period.  

It doesn't matter if its a fire fighter, a teacher or a hooker.

Everyone is paid exactly the right amount.

I have been in this for 12 plus years and I should be the one complaining but I am not.  Its just the way the economy works out now.  We think the ladies are just being greedy but we forget to add in the cost the ladies have it pay out for them to be providers.  They have to pay for advertising, photos, ter membership, lingerie, apartment rent, hotels, airfares and so on. So yea, it would be nice to have those "old" rates in the past but that is not going to be a reality in this market today.  

When I started :
a GFE hr session was around 300, PSE hr session 500-600,  Pornstar date 1000ish , 4 star hotel 150-200ish, apartment rental  1000 a month and a gallon of gas $1.40ish

Now:
a GFE hr session is around 500, PSE hr session 800-900,  Pornstar date 1000ish , 4 star hotel 350-400ish, apartment rental 2500-3500 a month and a gallon of gas $4.00ish  

Thinking back to those old days, I still remember one group of guys complaining about rates and the rest of us rounding up the money and thinking if we should or shouldn't see that lady.  Not much has changed from the past.  You either pay the lady or watch free porn on the net.  

I will conclude that everyone should appreciate each other.  We guys need to appreciate everything the ladies do for us guys, they put in a lot of their own money and time for what they offer us and we need to thank them.  And ladies, you might have a long list of guys wanting to meet you but there might be one client who put in a lot of his own time and money just to be able to enjoy 1 hour with you, so make every time magically

Move south where the cost of living is lower.  You will find providers more affordable.

Latex gloves.  That way he won't ripe the skin on his penis. I stopped jacking off a long time ago it would take 1 hour before I would cum. I had a video masturbation session with a provider her pussy got sore lol.

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unless you are one of the lucky ones!

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But i be missing  the city ..
 after traveling again in Europe I understood the NYC is the city of all cities :)
 so far I am enjoying all what city can offer - clubs, concerts, dining out , central park briton beach .. etc..Love  the City . do not like cab drivers here ..

Some Escorts compete on price. For example, jewels of nyc has excellent price considering the quality of service IMHO.  

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Lots of well reviewed talent in the Hampton Roads area of VA anywhere from $150 to $300. May be worth a weekend trip.

This thread  has me thinking...what is the right price? How far apart are providers and hobbyists on this issue?  
 
What do you think the right price is for body rub only?  
 
And for escorts ?  
 
Just curious...  
 
Brook

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pick the name of the provider whose time is MOST valuable and take her for a spin around your merry-go-pole! SWEET!!!!

I too have seen the average price go up in the few years I've been in the hobby. I guess it boils down to supply and demand. Perhaps this is a sign that we are starting to crawl out of the recession of 2008. Wouldn't be surprised if economists are using escort prices as an indicator of the economy's health--a backroom indicator.

Been burned by low price providers as well as high price ones too. You just have to look more harder to find that provider who offers the service you want at an acceptable price point, which takes longer these days.

That is a great question the answer seems to vary greatly depending on what each person values, both the providers and the visitors...