Quite a few gentlemen base their hobbying decisions on their attraction to the entertainer offering her company.  Price is secondary.  If they like what they see and read, they're not going to go bargain hunting like they're purchasing a power drill.  For many, having to do so would take the enjoyment away from what should be an indulgent pursuit.

My favorite restaurants are considerably more expensive than others, but I eat at them often without obsessing over whether or not I can have the same experience elsewhere in Manhattan else for less.  That's just the way it is when you're doing something for leisure.

Every one of your posts prove that.  BTW, no one in their rightful mind comes on a public board and talks about the Ultra GFEs they fuck.  

BuddyM you claim that Elizabeth Love was your GF and never charged you for sex even though you're 40 years older than her (what a joke). If what you say is true ( huge eye roll) - wouldn't she be fucking you without a rubber?  I never fucked girl friends with rubbers in my life, and don't anyone else that does either.

I have no desire to poke around where I don't belong, but I am curious.  

What is the story with this spectacular wave of girls in their early to mid 20s, offering pretty aggressive service (anal, swallow, facials).  Nearly all of them have similar body types, specifically, lean, tall, no implants or tats, perky B-cups--which happens to be my favorite, bar none.  

They also have very similar websites and, it seems, business plans: enter the market at 600 or so per hour for a hot session including anal and CIM/CIF.  Spin up to $800 to $1k an hour once the killer reviews start to roll in.

You all know who I am taking about, correct?  This is not a complaint or a remotely negative post. I actually am seeing one of these girls this weekend.  It's just curiosity.

When there are girls just as beautiful offering just as much for half the price?

In many instances, these women are mentored by the same, more experienced escort(s).  They replicate a successful method and network a dependable group of clients. In some cases, the mentor either is or seems to aspire to be an agent.  The models are in touch with one another and encourage duos.  The common client base provides stellar reviews.  The process is self reinforcing.  In most cases the services are terrific which helps seal the deal.  In time, we'll all find out if the strategy yields the higher fees.  I suspect this is mostly a NY phenomenon.  Might also exist in L.A.

Just a side note to your statement but it is also happening in Vegas right now exactly as you described.  There are a bunch of them that started at 500 have great reviews, perform duos and anal then quickly jump to 600.  I saw one of them on my last visit...

As someone who has been paying for sex for nearly a decade, and has met every type of woman you can imagine, I can vouch for the experience being discussed above.

Plainly said, these new women are different, in my opinion that nearly all the others I've had the pleasure to meet.

Why?  There are a few things:

1- They take the concept of the geisha experience very seriously (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geisha).  By this I mean that the entire time you are with them the focus on your pleasure is at the forefront of their attention.  If you're pleasure is to pleasure them, they willingly receive.  If you are focused on sparkling conversation, these women as truly well-rounded, deep thinkers.  If what you want is down and dirty sex.  The sex is remarkable in every sense of the word.

2- They seem to live with a passion, energy and intensity that is a window into a different world than the one I live in (and I assume most of the men who visit them do as well.)  For the moments we are together its at if we get to suck off the teat of this powerful experience.

This is not about services offered that are "off menu", rather its about the entirety of the experience shared together.

Is it a more expensive spend?  Yes.  Is it worth it?  In my opinion, unquestionably.  

Is there a difference between McDonald's and Bouley?  Yes.  Both satisfy a craving, but only one meal is memorable, so much so that you relieve it time and again in your passing moments of self-reflection.

NYC has plenty of  guys that want au natural service, and most of those $800-$1500 girls the OP refers to are offering that service.  There is no shortage of NYC men that will pay top dollar for what's euphemistically called Ultra GFE service these days.  Lots of NY attorneys, businessmen,  and Wall Street guys see that service as the Holy Grail of hobbying.  Ask any provider how many times they get asked for Ultra GFE service on a weekly basis. The # will stagger you.

do they actually pay those prices? I actually thought it was a "just kidding" - or "non-negotiuable" LOL

Do you mean BBFS????
Interesting state of affairs!!!!

It's all a question of volume / market size.  Porn stars typically charge higher.  People buy expensive cars like the Bugatti when a Porsche or certain Ferraris technically offer better value.  Certain wealthier people like the exclusivity.

I will say that reviews are self perpetuating and it's hard to be the first non 10/10 reviewer even though the girl wasn't really a 10/10.  Having seen someone who went that route when she charged $500 and now charges $1,000 - she was maybe an 8/10 but the headache of getting called pushback on putting that rating wasn't worth it.

Along with the Attorneys, Wall Street guys, and business owners, there are also plenty of trust fund kids of all ages in NYC seeking Ultra GFE services.  Most of the new 10/10 girls  at the $800 price point and up are offering these services at least on a YMMV basis.  Go ahead and flame me, but this is true. Those in denial are naive.

Respectfully, you are wrong.

Yes there are women out there who offer that.  But the women this post began referring to are not about "Ultra GFE", rather they go to amazing lengths to create a total immersion experience.

If all you are looking for is a bare back fuck, then you don't understand who these women are (and bareback has NOT been my experience) or what they offer.

They aren't for everyone.

Each woman I've met from this group (the so-called "dojo of fuck ninjas") knows her damn role and performs it flawlessly. For example, midway through last night's session, my friend oiled and rubbed my feet, fed me treats and kept my wine glass cold and full. I left warm and empty.

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I have. Alias used so that you cannot attack them, as I recently reviewed one.

I see both mid-range and 1000+/hr girls. I have had BBFS offered to me ONCE. My newfound ATF is 1000/hr, a sex freak for sure, but a health nut nonetheless. She'd never put her body at risk like that. That is one reason I adore her - she's not just all about the BUSINESS of a GFE. She wouldn't do just anything for a few lousy bucks or a 10. She has her head on her shoulders. But, like others have said, she makes you forget whether it was light or dark out and makes you feel as if she forgot too.

The one provider who offered me BBFS was consistently 10-10, 9-10 at a mid-range price point. She was nice but seemed a little nutso. Frankly, she scared me.

I'd rather see any provider, mid-range or 1000+, who goes about things with some sense and integrity, and wouldn't sell her soul for a few thousand extra bucks. Believe me, there are plenty of those wonderful women any any price point.

This is an interesting discussion.  

We've got one group of guys saying: Come on!  Don't be a sucker.  These girls are giving out BBFS to get those big fees!  But none of them has actually come out and said any of these new, expensive, young providers has actually offered it to HIM.

We've got another group of guys saying that they have been with some of the girls we are talking about, and BBFS was not on the menu.  (For my part, I have seen Sophie, she was awesome, and not even a hint toward BBFS.)

So the question is, can anyone step up and say that he has seen one of these girls AND she offered it?

Because if nobody can say that, aren't we kind of just sitting around talking complete shit?

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Sorry to sound stupid, but no, I don't get your drift. What else would they be offering: You mean uncovered FS, that sort of thing?

How "Ultra Service" can you get? Surely a fuck is a fuck, end of story. Surely that's all you go to pay for.
What the heck else can these women provide?
Could someone spell it out in detail, please (and don't give me that "geisha" BS).

You are correct that there are plenty of players at the 800 and up donation. Why detract from the seriousness of your point by being demeaning? I guess it is because you are a moron and, apparently, also a coward.

First off, while we all have nom-de-plumes on this site, using an alias to attack one another is weak.

Secondly, we each have different needs, and the reason we go see this women is completely different man-by-man.

What I'm looking for is different than you are.  My experience is mine and not yours.

What I enjoy...and so on.

Also, since I can afford a more high-end experience I expect a more refined woman.  And geisha really is a lifestyle and choice for some of these women.

In my experience (barring some encounters with "porn stars") the more you pay the more you get and that does not mean bbfs.

If all you want it a cheap fuck then pay $50 for a street walker.  Refinement is different.

That said, there are some amazing, wonderful women in the $300-400 range.  No disparagement here.  But the expectation for a woman charging 800-1000 an hour goes beyond sticking your dick in her till you cum.

And it still works.  The girls just need to know that the barriers to entry are fairly low, so once they stop becoming "flavor of the month," they will fall out of favor.  Easy come, easy go.

As far as the similar websites thing...many of them use the same webmasters.  One girl might contact another and get the information on the webmaster, and that's how they all look similar.

Give me an example of a girl you think who is just as beautiful as another girl, who is charging half.

I would be curious.

Not arguing...just seeing what your point of view is.

Has one of the most interesting ones I've read in a while and I'm happy reading it... I can see that there are many of you who really understand the concept and that there is so much more in it than just sex ...
Now, the problem is that my curious mind is killing me!!!  

Can someone PLEASE tell me who you are talking about???   Please feel free to PM me

Thanks!  

Laura

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Totally agree!

It seems that some of you equate money with service/intimacy. I have spent thousands on horrible appointments and had the time of my life for $400. The reason there are hundreds of girls at $600 is because it seems to be the current homeostasis. Women look around and see that that is the center of the bell curve on Eros and shoot for it.

I don't see the BBFS connection, but maybe it is because I am not asking for it. I would not be able to enjoy myself if I was having unprotected intercourse. My mind would be going a thousand miles an hour and it would fuck with my head. I guess I am just a hypochondriac.

J

Totally agree!

Many also use same photographer.

I am with Lauren. Who are we talking about?