The New York City-based provider Mya (TER ID 151776) NCNS'd me, despite our confirmation of the appointment earlier that day. I have not heard from her since then. I am reporting this NCNS here in order to inform other hobbyists and discourage such bad behavior by other providers and hobbyists.

I'm sorry this happen to you!  I personally think she's a doll and has a life just like everyone else... it's unfortunate that life happens. I'm sure she has a reason. Did you reach out to her?

Although, I understand your frustration, I am not sure this is the best way to go about it.  You mentioned that she cancelled on you the first time due to a "medical emergency with an older female relative." Which maybe true. Hopefully things did not turn worse for the older relative. Things like this for providers and hobbyist alike really does happen. I have a list of times people cancelled on me due to  

This post was the only way for me to report NCNS to the hobbyist/provider community, since I cannot write a review of a session that did not occur. Whenever the NCNS issue comes up on the TER boards, both providers and hobbyists routinely recommend reporting the offending provider or hobbyist on their local board. Well, I actually did it. I feel that I have the obligation to inform fellow hobbyists of Mya's NCNS, and I am confident that many or most providers would encourage other providers to report hobbyists that NCNS them in a similar fashion.

It happens on the other side too as well,  
when clients cancel last minute,
and throw a hissy fit when I impose a cancellation fee equivalent to the full session donation
and 100% deposit for any future sessions.
so I understand your frustration and be able to vent on TER at the very least because there is not much else that can be done.

Thank you for your empathy. I actually did meet you once at a New York MnG a while back; it was a pleasure.  

I, like you, like to give second chances but never a third as I have had some incredible dates after a cancel or NCNS, as any true professional would want to make it up to you in some fashion, be it reduced price/OTC, performance, whatever.  

She may not have known about his reviews for one, but if she did, she should never had agreed to the first date let alone her NCNS for the second attempt due to his scoring.

Usually I am not one to pay any attention to the boards but a few of my regulars brought this up to my attention just a few mins ago.

1) I used my TER whitelistings for her verification process, so she should have been well aware of my reviews from the beginning of our communications. If she had any reservations about my reviews, she should have stated those reservations at the beginning of our communications (which would have been the most professional thing to do) or just dropped contact with me altogether at that earlier point in the process. If she only looked at my reviews AFTER she booked me and then changed her mind, she should have done her screening more thoroughly at the beginning. Even then, if she changed her mind after booking me, she should have just canceled instead of “confirming” two appointments that never occurred - the first of which she canceled at the last minute, the second of which she NCNS'd.

...as I have already explained above. I had two other goals.

You seem to think that not only should someone cancel for a better offer, which the merits of which can be at least debated on a girl by girl basis, but you also feel no need to offer up a simple cancellation when that happens which would save the OP from having a SECOND bad experience with the same girl.

right to out her on this board. By doing that, he and us were able to hear her reasons. Which appear to be genuine. (Sorry about your lose Mya). NCNS is a problem and he did the right thing by posting about it on this board.

If they were able to reach you, why hadn't you reached out to the people you NCNS'd on BEFORE you were called out on the boards?

I also have some questions for you.

What truly happened to create a NCNS experience is not something any of us other than Mya will ever truly know. I will say that your post is calm, logical and on point in its objectivity. Please don't feel a need to respond to shit stirrers who take it upon themselves to have a hissy fit from behind an alias. You don't have a dog in that fight even though she is suggesting you do and anyone reading this thread can see that....

...I would like to hear her explanation(s) for that too.

...she gave me 24 hrs notice. No problem. I will rebook.  

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...I now see that that person is clearly a troll and not worthy of a response.

...and I wonder why Mya did not take a similar approach. If she really was having an ongoing family problem, I wonder why she took the initiative to recontact me after her first last-minute cancellation, which resulted in the second appointment that she NCNS'd. She claimed that her family member was having a medical problem and eventually died...but, while this medical crisis was going on, she proactively contacted me in order to schedule a second appointment? If she was really experiencing an ongoing medical problem with a family member, then perhaps taking the initiative to recontact me was not the best idea.  

It doesn't invalidate my point that they were able to reach her and she was able to respond to this thread, but apparently she couldn't be bothered to contact him BEFORE she was outed for bad behavior to do the only professional thing to be done after a NCNS, and that is to IMMEDIATELY contact anyone you have flaked on before attending to any other business once you are able to communicate.

A key point of Mya's story is that she was unable to contact me because she lost her iPhone and was only able to recover it with Find My iPhone. My concern about that claim is that, as far as I can tell, she does not use an iPhone. My communication with her was via text message. I use an iPhone, which, as far as I know, automatically defaults to iMessages when exchanging texts with other iPhones. iMessages use data networks from cell service or Wi-Fi, whereas other messages use SMS and may thus incur SMS charges. iMessages are blue, whereas messages to and from other devices (e.g. Androids) are green. All of the messages to and from her on my phone are green,which would suggest that they are regular SMS exchanges with a device other than an iPhone.  

I don't know if it's the case in this story but you can forward SMS messages from Android to iphone and vice versa.  

Turning iMessages off has its benefits, and also - I believe - turning it off keeps it from communicating to the "cloud" and copying over onto your Mac and icloud as you type. When doing this, the messages are no longer blue, and are green. So in essence, you might want to be more thankful for that discretion.

She owes you nothing!  

She has still proven herself completely uncaring about her client/s or their time even if every word she said were true, (highly doubtful)  

Any person who knows how to find joy in this amazing opportunity we have here to have discreet intimacy with beautiful women would search their list of 76 reviews for ladies and go see one of them, instead of focusing on this poor woman.  

But in the end, he's finding evidence over it that is not evidence and needs to let it go.  

What you call a "never ending" apology, I call a "never beginning" apology.  

You know, sometimes you just can't give the details, so you come up with an "It's not you, it's me" excuse. The times I have had to do that were 1. When I actually did have deaths in the family, and 2. When I personally was sick. Oh, and one time when there were police officers swarming the building lol

or at least attempting to defend her. Even while trying to defend her, you are pretty adamant in stating you have never and would never have done something like this.

Or maybe I should say, "one final nail in her coffin" lol

It is offensive to imply that I somehow deserved the NCNS. That is totally unacceptable.  

On this transaction that did not happen.

I don't know anything about Mya or her story, but iMessage is in fact turned OFF by default, and one has to turn iMessage functionality on when setting up the phone .if you go into settings and then messages, you'll see the toggle button for iMessage on/off

Do you believe that "Privacy Matters?" Hmmmmm...

First of all, kudos to GaGambler for highlighting this previous NCNS report on Mya, which demonstrates that she is a repeat NCNS offender and has done the same thing to at least two other guys in the past. She NCNS'd this guy “Sousaphone” after flaking on him before, also with vague references to family/medical issues. A second user, “razetiger,” reported strikingly similar experiences with her. She rescheduled on him 6 times in a row, using the same excuses, before she just NCNS'd him altogether.

If it weren't for your thread on GD about this, this thread most likely would have gotten a few dozen reads, maybe a couple of replies and might have been halfway down the page and all but forgotten about by now, but thanks to your thread on GD, and you and Court trying to defend the indefensible, this thread has just about reached train wreck status, with almost 50 replies, nearing a thousand reads and still at the very top of the page with new people checking out the thread after having their curiosity raised by reading your OP on GD.  

I would like to thank Badboy1234 for reminding me of another key point: Mya's initial last-minute cancellation and then her subsequent NCNS cost me $800. Having scheduled my two appointments with her, and then “confirmed” them with her on those two days, I had to inform my employer that I was taking time off from work. Because of the way that my employer operates, I could not just go back to work after she canceled on me; I was idle and could not earn money. Vacation time is worth money – whenever I leave my employer, I will cash out whatever vacation time I have not used. Vacation time is also limited and precious to me, and Mya's flakiness wasted it. Based on my hourly earnings, the amount of vacation time that I wasted in my two attempts to see Mya was worth approximately $800.  

I'd like to say something, please do not take it the wrong way. You are not out of 800 dollars, that is absurd. You are using the wrong logic to reach the wrong conclusion, because you would have taken the afternoons off anyway. You would have seen different women. Should those women have paid you 800 too?

First of all, you do not know the circumstances of my job and personal life, which I cannot share here. If you knew, you would agree with me.

I was with you all the way here but your "I would be willing to drop this issue if Mya gives me $800" and your "I would be willing to let bygones be bygones if Mya compensated me for the economic harm that she did to me" are over the top, ridiculous and possibly vengeful.

Calm the fuck down.  Make the "report" if you must, and move on.  All the other shit is extra and unnecessary.

Yeah, it's over the top, yes it's ridiculous and yes it does actually weaken his case.

In her response to my original post, Mya noted that she offered discounts to clients on whom she has canceled. So she herself would agree that I am entitled to some form of compensation.  I would like to take her up on that. In fact, she did offer me a discount on my second appointment because of her last-minute cancellation of our first appointment. Of course, I was unable to benefit from that form of compensation because she NCNS'd that appointment.  

GaG,

Mya's unprofessional behavior caused me to waste $800 worth of vacation time that I would have otherwise cashed out whenever I leave my company.  I want compensation - in the form of money, not in the form of time, as I doubt that she would honor a make-up appointment.

Mya has no cancellation policy so to say she should return in favor is dumb

You threatened her. TWICE.  

Booked 3 days in advance only for her not to show or even have the decency to let me know ahead.   After 2 days of leaving messages she finally got back to apologize saying she was on her way but had a "friend emergency and she had to go help" ( I guess this is her go to excuse all the time ) .. told me she will make it up for half rate anytime.  She then ignored my reschedule for May , then July  

Some of you are some real excuse making, white knighting, simpin mental gymnasts. If we book a flight and it gets cancelled the airlines either reimburse your money or upgrade you to a higher class for the next flight. So if as the hobbyist you follow through on your part, if the lady can't make it, flakes, whatever then send the guy his money back.  

someone need to check is JackDumpy is a man or a carpet.

You wasted your 800$ in vacation time and still got your $, and didn't have to work those days.  You were the one who choose to book with her while there was the searchable info on her previous NCNS and cancellations.  You always take that chance in the biz.  You also chose after she short cancelled on you to try it again.  Again, you chose to take that time off.  She didn't waste your vacation days, you did and you certainly could have tried to book another lady on the fly(it is always best to have a past provider friend that you know can be available same day).

You had the empathy of the board and then the tone went vindictive. Why? I actually agree with you on one of your lower reviews. Why this insistence on compensation?  Shit happens and obviously I've been NCNS'ed.  I think you are on the Street and have some funds to throw around. Complaining about vacation days?  Pleeezzee.  I have four weeks in the 'bank' that I will never use.  Do you want one?

Nothing could have damaged the OP more than you running in to WK for it.  

I did not intend my suggestion for compensation from Mya as a threat or blackmail. I intended it as a response to Mya's  post on this thread, in which she indicated that she has a policy for compensating clients on whom she cancels. If anyone misinterpreted my suggestion as a threat or blackmail, I am sorry that their inability to read my posts correctly led them to misunderstand my intentions. My writing style is very literal and precise – I mean exactly what I say, nothing more and nothing less. Please stop trying to read between the lines of my words – I do not communicate in that fashion. I did not address your misrepresentation of my post in my earlier responses to you and GaG because your misinterpretation was so ridiculous that I did not want to dignify it with a response. But since you have persisted in your misinterpretation, I feel the need to set the record straight.

...on the other thread on this board. Since we cannot write reviews on such flakes and scammers, as the sessions never actually occurred, we need to be proactive in using regional boards to report this type of activity. In fact, I imagine that these providers are deliberately exploiting the fact that they can get away with this type of behavior within the parameter's of TER's rules. We need to close this gap in the system, and posts like yours and mine are a way to do that.    

That makes a total of four guys that have reported that she NCNS'd them.

...you have a dozen and a half posts in this thread, most of which resemble a tribute to "War and Peace." Can you imagine how bad you would look if you weren't so "precise". LOL

whiney little bitches throwing temper tantrums even 3 years ago, screaming "I have rights! Everybody needs to know that one out of 100 women ncns'd me! I have rights!"

I am willing to bet her counteroffer will be somewhere along the lines of an offer for you to GO FUCK YOURSELF!!! lmao

Other hobbyists would see that she did not follow up on her offer on this thread to make up for her NCNS and last-minute cancellation, and those other hobbyists would use that piece of information to determine whether or not they want to book with her. That is all.

It is one of the best I've seen on the NY Board in a very long time. Thanks for playing.  Especially the OP.
BLAMMO !!!!!!!

You aren't tempted in the least to cough up even $8.00 much less $800.00 and if I ever got wind that you did something that fucking stupid, I would track you down at JDU, rip your arm out of it's socket and beat you to death with it. lol

First of all, the security is air tight at JDU so you wouldn't have any shot at getting to me. I hired the same crack staff that guards the DNC emails so go right ahead and give it your best shot.

and Jack doesn't make nasty comments about "random people he knows nothing about" He usually knows at least a little something about them before making nasty comments about them. It's much easier to insult somebody when you know something about them, even if that something is only that they are a "petty, whiny, vindictive, low empathy John" like the OP. lol

I knew you'd cum 'round to me thinkin'.  Chinaman smart to a point, but Chinaman still don't spread legs.  No free sessions even for wise Chinaman.

What an exciting trainwreck with all of the twists and turns! This board is getting fun again !

Lots to complain about as business slows down.

How to talk to Asians on the subway.  They luv me long time after I stare at them on the 7 train to Queens.

Bravo!  

If your advice had been taken to heart, there would be no wreck.

We are people... not airplanes. or corporations. People with lives, and real life tragedies and unfortunate circumstances that get in the way of work. Shit happens and sometime's you all just gotta get over it dudes. Three deep breaths and Let It Goooo. As for that $800? Best laugh I've had in years, thanks 10v!

Eh, I doubt anybody is rushing to book with Mya after hearing about all the NCNS.

I had given her my P411 with 4 oks, date was confirmed and I had a room booked ahead too.   Two hours before our date she text me she was on her way, waited 4 hours later I got nothing back, emailed her, texted her .. all went silent.

Hey Knight, wasn't sure you mean 400 each day or 400 total?

But I doubt she is going to NCNS anybody in the near  future and she most likely will give special attention to all her current clients to save face. Especially the ones who happened to read this. Now may be good time to book to get more bang for your buck. Most businesses are reactionary in a positive way when faced with bad publicity offering extra incentives. I don't see why hooker business would be any different.

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...such as Bitcoin, Monero, or Ethereum. These cryptocurrencies can protect the privacy of both parties to such transactions.

Thank you for coming forward. You are at least the fifth guy that Mya has NCNS'd, and since she NCNS'd you twice, that makes at least six instances of NCNS in her part, some of which resulted in financial losses for the victims.  

....but perhaps she will learn her lesson this time, as my post has drawn more attention and will thus probably have a greater impact.  

...the financial impact that this will have on her business vastly outweighs the other insignificant bullshit on this thread. The opinions of the predatory pro-NCNS providers and the castrated white knights on this thread mean about as much to me as insect feces.

...because it encouraged another NCNS victim to come forward and detail the financial losses that he incurred as a result of her two NCNS appointments with whim. The fact that this one additional victim has come forward means more to me than any of the other stupid bullshit that the predatory, pro-NCNS providers and the castrated white knights on this thread posted.

That should be the headline of your next OP on the GD board. I'm sure the body of the post will be just as good. I, like many others, enjoyed this thread. Thanks.

Your comment denigrates the value of the work that millions of employees of airlines and other corporations do every day. Are their lives and their time somehow less valuable and less important than yours because they work for a corporation and you work for yourself? Many or most your clients probably work for corporations too, so you have insulted the livelihood of your client base, which they use to pay you.  

MAC, I used to be a great admirer of yours. In fact, your posts partially inspired me in my decision to make my original post in the first place.

I insist on compensation because it was Mya's proactive offer of compensation that lured me into scheduling the second appointment with her in the first place, and she said in her own response to my original post that she would make it up to me. How is it unfair or vindictive to hold Mya to her own words?

You basically just admitted that you think it's OK to NCNS clients. I hope that your actual and prospective clients see your comments and avoid you like the plague.

You now are closing in on THREE DOZEN posts in this thread. You have now become a deranged, obsessed and nutty stalker.

His posts from yesterday are in the totally insane, obsessed, deranged category. Congrats to him, Mya is officially the victim now.

The worst someone can say about Mya is she is unprofessional. That doesn't make her a bad person.

Hope she's ok ? She might of had a bad day. I hope your next visit will be dubble great.

I wasnt twisting the knife on Mya. Was laughing at you. You done went off the rails, chief.