Help me understand this.  

Just read a review of a well-known NYC provider that was passed along by a Ter amigo.   The reviewer (not a 1-time reviewer) complained about her service, cited specifics, and says he just wanted to get out of there.  A waste of $600+.

But then in his last sentence he says he didn't want to ruin her perfect scores.

So a 10 for Appearance and 10 for Performance are awarded.

If you can't, you are missing something on this one. The review portrayed a difficult experience and may have been slightly more enhanced with a YMMV, without affecting the provider's average. Something that seems to draw more attention than maybe it should. Frankly, I thought it took courage to do this review in the community where a provider has a 9+ average. And we actually had a chance to read it before interpol comes along to pull it. The end result is that some people will be scathing for one reason or another. My option is to leave it alone and let it stand for what it is.

As far as newb, he is just a twit so just ignore him.

The provider in question is a little off her rocker and on at least two occasions that I know of (myself and one other reviewer I know of) has challenged reviews (insisted to TER that the sessions never took place) that were low and contained details that are in some ways similar to the one that got posted.  As a result TER pulled the review.  I had no  interest in getting into a battle with a provider who had my personal info and had also sent me a nasty PM on top of it.  At least this review because it has high numbers will probably not be challenged but at least will give potential clients a hint of what is in store.  Somehow this guy was smart enough to realize the only way to get the info posted and not pulled was to give her high numbers but then trash her in the description.  Nice work around.... Don't get me wrong I totally LOVE TER.......but .....it is not a perfect system and this is a great example of how things slip through the cracks.  Hope that helps you understand this perfect score and the trashed review.  Get it?

I know for a fact this is a fake review. The girl in question told him she was unavailable because she was at a photo shoot. I know this for a fact
he admits he contacted her at the last minute. She screens thoroughly and doesn't see people who refuse to fill out her screening form. He refused to comply so she graciously declined to see him. It seems to me he's trying t get even with her for not seeing him.

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1. How do you know what review is being referred to here?

2. You have no reviews or have never been WhiteListed. A gutless alias perhaps?

3. How do you know any of this information?

   A. Are you a friend of the provider?
   B. Are you a frequent client of the provider?
   C. Are you, in fact, the provider?

4. How do you know she had a photo shoot?

5. The provider has seen many clients without a screening form. I was one of them in the past.

6. Her defense that it is a fake review and is that she goes through certain procedures and would never see a client on such short notice? I have met many providers who go through all the same procedures you mentioned, but, in my case, decided that I was a nice guy, to give it a chance. They always worked out great, especially because we under the conditions of short notice. Many providers do this. I am sure this provider has done this. It happens.

7. So he writes a review and then gives her 10/10 so that he can fuck with her? Are you clueless?

8. The total truth will probably never emerge here, because this provider has had review issues and score issues before.

My entire point before was to leave this review alone as it stands. My personal experience with the provider, was mine. I told about my experience. If this reviewer's experience was honest and forthright, it should stand for what it is, whether we agree with it or not. That should be the objective of this forum, not constantly propping up numbers for better results or eliminating reviews because of issues between clients and providers. If we are interested in the integrity of the system we participate in, then we should be willing to see with a more focused and harsher light.

Tried to send you a pm with the link to the review but it bounced.  Ah well.

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Yes. A twit is being kind crazyshit and you're right Newb12 adds nothing.   He's much worse than than a twit.

You've reviewed eleven providers and have given eleven 10's for Performance.  What a lucky guy.  Everyone you see is perfect!

And if the review portrayed a "difficult experience" as you say, how can the Performance be a 10?

Talk about missing something.  I'm not into name calling dude but you're the twit, not newb.

Sorry Big, I thought you weren't into name calling. If you read the reactions around here, and if you read any of what Newb has to say about anything, he's a twit, or worse. You seem to have plenty to say on the board and are fairly apprised of the activities that go on here. I'm surprised you don't know about this. Unless he is a personal friend of yours which should raise some concerns about who you associate with.

I really don't want to get into a pissing match here, but why is it such a concern of yours how a reviewer decides to give numbers and write a review which seems contradictory? Are you a monitor of some kind? I am imagining that you ran to the provider in question like some other Manginas, and told her all about it. He did mention that he was attracted to her and had hoped to have a wonderful time. Something happened to set off her behavior. Like Rashomon, this all depends on who is telling the truth, and who you believe. If the whole truth does come out about this episode, that is between the provider, the hobbyist and TER, not you. And if manipulations of the event are ever verified, the parties involved will have to be accountable.

If you know anything about the provider in question's review history, there have been issues. Or don't you read that stuff that has been written here? As far as my reviews, it has nothing to do with this issue, so why bring it up. What I do with providers is between us, until I decide to write a review and make it public. Then it is your privilege to read them, or not. You don't have any say in what hobbyists say or how they grade their providers. Fortunately I have had a wonderful time for the most part. A lot of that is do to TER, thankfully. I even had a wonderful time with the provider in question. Or hadn't you noticed that? If I see a provider that I choose not to review, that is my option.

I will go back to my original point. If what happened between these two adults really went down, leave the review as it stands. The hobbyist submitted his scores his reasons. Then he wrote about it. Integrity on this forum is rare thing. If it applies in this case, let's keep it intact.

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I think the very concept of taking the high road has passed this board by. Instead of guys exchanging relevant information about women in the business, it has turned into an affirmation of Hobbes' view of humans. Sniping, lying, insulting, slandering, and puerile outbursts have replaced the discourse that once made the New York Board interesting and intelligent. Polar Bear, I laud your effort, except for piling on Newb by seconding the "twit" assignation. Say "misguided" or just disagree, but continuing the name- calling just furthers the degradation of this board.

Not sure why you're getting so worked up PB, but if it makes you feel better the reviewer is not a personal friend as you suggest and I have no idea or even care who he is.

To answer your first question about being concerned how a reviewer decides to give numbers: That's usually how Ter members decide to visit a provider by the numbers and then the essay.  

Your statement, "integrity on this forum is a rare thing".  OK then, to my point ... let's give honest scores to go along with the write-ups.  That was the thought behind my original post.  I wasn't looking for the Mods to pull the review.

I'd like a link.

My apologies to you sir. And thank you for the clarification. I thought you might be a friend of the provider.

My concern was that this was going to be the beginning of dousing the reviewer with lighter fluid before the someone lights the match. If you may have noticed, the provider's PR brigade has already been in action on several fronts to wash the review in question away with multitudinous glorification of her ability and character, without having it removed. Which I fear is the next step. That is also reading between the lines about what goes on here. I do agree that the review and the scores were incongruous, but there seemed to me, to be good reason enough stated by the reviewer to let it stand as it was. He is probably under as much pressure because he relayed his version of events that are contrary to the provider's vaunted reputation. But as has been noted in this thread by others, there have been a few issues in the past. You are right about the integrity part as well. If the reviewer had given her very low marks for his encounter, would the review have been published at all? I'm thinking that it would have been much more difficult. And we would not be talking about this. Except that we should be talking about it. And hopefully our personal experiences with the provider, I know I had two myself, do not get in the way with the review process. If you are disturbed by reviewer's numbers, it may be the institution itself that needs to be assessed as to the inner workings. I have this concern, as I am sure do many who survey this landscape.