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Stripper Slide
mancini8000 12 Reviews 3319 reads
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1 / 31

Do any providers do "Stripper Slide"?

cspatz 67 Reviews 1311 reads
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2 / 31
Cosette 1269 reads
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3 / 31
Senator.Blutarsky 1359 reads
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4 / 31

I think this gal moonlights as a stripper and she obviously likes slides. :

FTMZacharyPrince See my TER Reviews 1481 reads
posted
5 / 31

...but if you really MUST find someone who engages in this activity, you can simply search reviews > advanced search > NYC & Massage: Privates/Privates to find a plethora of women reviewed recently in NYC whose profiles state that they offer this service.

Note: unfortunately sometimes this field on a provider's profile is filled out incorrectly by a past reviewer.  I have known ladies to be horrified to discover that their profile says they do this because they actually don't.  So YMMV and good luck.

The Invisible Man 1107 reads
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6 / 31
VOO-doo 1282 reads
posted
7 / 31

Off the top of my head, herpes and syphilis are two STD's primarily spread through skin-to-skin contact.  

Even if other party does NOT have an active outbreak or noticeable symptoms, the diseases can still be transmitted. The OP (or anybody interested) could google 'herpes viral asymptomatic shedding' and 'syphilis asymptomatic transmission' if they wish to know more.

If they are OK with said risks...no shortage of women willing to comply.

nycad 20 Reviews 1251 reads
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9 / 31

But then again, I'm sure you brought up the conversation to stir up the board a bit.  

It happens, it's a thing. Nothing much more to say.  

nycad

AnotherDonJohn 1805 reads
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10 / 31
VOO-doo 1300 reads
posted
11 / 31

Much higher chance of HIV, which, if I am remembering correctly, is estimated at around 1 in 15,000 for unprotected oral, with no recorded instances. With stripper slide, all it takes is one miscalculation...the risk is, of course, mostly assumed by the woman.  

From what I have read, it is also very rare for genital herpes (HSV-2) to be transmitted orally (HSV-1) and vice versa. So genital-to-genital contact carries a higher risk of herpes 2 transmission.

Not sure about syphilis/gonorrhea/hpv/etc. There is little factual data...the reason is that very few people solely engage in either unprotected oral, or unprotected stripper slide,  and nothing else. So in case studies, it is  difficult to pinpoint what act might have led to infection. That has been cited as one reason there are no documented instances of HIV transmission via oral.

For people concerned about risk...there is reason to abstain from both.

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AnotherDonJohn 1119 reads
posted
12 / 31

Before you start talking about the risk of toilet seats.

Seriously, i respect many of your other opinions, but you don't seem to have a medical clue. Pls stop or else cite the specific studies looking at oral vs the stripper slide. Yes I know what I'm talking about.

This too does not constitute medical advice. See your physician.

VOO-doo 1218 reads
posted
14 / 31

Pick my post apart, sentence by sentence, and cite your sources. PLEASE.

I read  CDC articles like other women read VOGUE. Also also get my money's worth from my gyn. I am on my phone now...but no worries, I will link supporting articles ASAP. :)

VOO-doo 1311 reads
posted
15 / 31

I did actually make a mistake in which I said there were NO recorded instances of HIV being transmitted through BBBJ. Seems that has changed, or the interpretation has changed:  

http://www.sfaf.org/hiv-info/basics/can-i-get-hiv-from-oral.html (also see link directly below)
Much higher chance of HIV, which, if I am remembering correctly, is estimated at around 1 in 15,000 for unprotected oral, with no recorded instances.
It's understood that likelihood/odds are of HIV transmission for oral are difficult to calculate (see link all the way at the bottom). I said 1 in 15000ish ( I can dig to see where I read that statistic if needed...but I don't think it's important)...here is an article that gives a close statistic - 8% (just to emphasize that I did not make it up) but obviously there is difficulty in extrapolating such statistical analysis. Which I also noted.  

http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/2012/hiv-infections-2007-2010.pdf

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/behavior/oralsex.html
With stripper slide, all it takes is one miscalculation...the risk is, of course, mostly assumed by the woman.
I will quote here and also link, since the article is quite lengthy: The following is directly quoted form the CDC article I linked below (shouldn't have to explain this, but - stripper slide, if the guy accidentally ejaculates or pre-cums, *exposes the woman to seminal fluids*):  

"The following risk factors contribute to prevention challenges for women

    Unprotected vaginal sex is a much higher risk for HIV for women than for men, and unprotected anal sex is riskier for women than unprotected vaginal sex. Abstaining from sex or having sex with only a mutually monogamous partner who does not have HIV, and using condoms correctly and consistently, reduce the risk for HIV transmission. "

Again, unprotected stripper slide *potentially exposes the woman to seminal fluids.* It also exposes the man...but as I said (and as is supported here) risk for the woman is higher.  

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/gender/women/facts/index.html

Article that briefly discusses difficulty in assigning odds of STD transmission per act:  
http://aids.about.com/cs/safesex/a/oralsex.htm

I think that supports pretty much everything I said...I'd not have bothered to make a reply as I did, had I not been previously acquainted with reliable sources that shaped my opinion.  


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AnotherDonJohn 1347 reads
posted
16 / 31

I get your trying to back up your point.
But all this stuff is smoke and mirrors compared to the data I asked you for.  
And where are the nuances/caveats in your statements? The type physicians use to give opinions vs blanket statements.  
Are there visible lesions on the skin or vaginal vs. just vaginal fluid?
Are there open mouth sores?
What are the person's other risk factors?
The fact is studies are situational but you expect us to piece together unrelated studies to make your point.  

I'll give you the short answer:  
The key study doesn't exist.  
The difference between unprotected vaginal or anal vs protected sex has zero to do with the question at hand. There is some risk to both activities but only a fool thinks he can compare them.
You are not a physician. Googling the CDC doesn't make you one.
Your smattering of knowledge in this case is really dangerous to others.
If they listen to you, they might as well listen to Indicaman/PFEguy's advice on the legal boards.
Don't bother searching- his stuff got removed. Lol.  

I'm done with this thread. Feel free to go crazy with advice now.  


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VOO-doo 1153 reads
posted
17 / 31

One article specifically stated that the incidence of HIV transmission was extremely low via oral...whereas vaginal sex was medium risk (higher for women). As I said, seminal fluid has a chance of being transmitted vaginally through cum or pre-cum with stripper slide.  

There was a comparative article...SF something or other. Love Goddess always used to quote it. If I didn't link it before, I will in the AM.
 
There is an article already linked which states (loosely estimated) risk rates per act. Another article states that there is difficultly in making definite statements such as the one you're asking. PLEASE don't make me link anything else. I'm tired.  
 
Might not be a doctor...but I can read. And that's why those articles are written.

VOO-doo 922 reads
posted
19 / 31

www.sfaf.org/hiv-info/basics/isnt-everything-sexual-risky.html#.UwhKT16MEza

And yes, it's probably meaningless...as the writer even admits. But yet, it was published by professionals for people to use as a tool. A very general tool. However people choose to use it...is on them.  

Conclusion: the info is out there. Let's just hope that people read it, and make their own (hopefully informed) choices

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AnotherDonJohn 1221 reads
posted
20 / 31

I am making sure a physician is telling them you are completely clueless on this issue.
If someone really cares, I suggest he/she googles for him/herself and then sees a physician for the advice that applies to his/ her situation.
The problem with free advice/ info is when it comes time to pay the piper for the consequences, you get what you pay for.
Only one of us gets paid to dispense this kind of advice.

I'm confident people will know which one of us makes more sense.  
And if they don't, then that's an example of how "survival of the fittest" works on a small scale.
Now you have your thread back again. Promise.


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Lonerider 22 Reviews 1241 reads
posted
21 / 31

I have seen this advertised with a decent amount of providers. They will do the slide, but not BBFS. I don't get it.

Waterclone 78 Reviews 1091 reads
posted
22 / 31

Posted By: VOO-doo
Much higher chance of HIV, which, if I am remembering correctly, is estimated at around 1 in 15,000 for unprotected oral, with no recorded instances. With stripper slide, all it takes is one miscalculation...the risk is, of course, mostly assumed by the woman.  
His many recorded instances are there of stripper slide std transmissions then?  Since you brought it up.  

Funny how you go from the specific number of 1 in 15000 for oral, and then talk about the stripper slide being "one miscalculation" as if it's one accidental slip from death.  

Let's compare apples to apples. First of all, for the man, sex without a condom has a risk of infection 1 in 2000. For a woman it's 1 in 1000.  And that's fucking. Doing the "stripper slide" and accidentally slipping it in for a sec is not remotely the same. (Unless you have a cut or open sore on your dick, in which case you may as we'll go share a needle.)

Secondly, there are plenty of diseases very easily transmitted orally.  You play down several saying there is not a lot of data.  Are you kidding?  Google took 1 second to find this. http://std.about.com/od/riskfactorsforstds/a/oralsexsafesex.htm

People who say oral sex is safe are simply justifying because they want to do it. All of us choose what activities we want to engage in. We choose the risk because we want the pleasure. But pretending that oral has no risks is stupid, and trying to convince others of that is evil.  

Everyone should make their own choice based on real information. Not on some bs some guy said on a hobby board

VOO-doo 936 reads
posted
23 / 31

Yes, there are many diseases that can be transmitted orally. I did bring that up...But stripper slide has risks, too.  

I'm going to avoid arguing over specific statistics, but I anything I said was just basically taken from a linked article, so please read the article (and then the context will be apparent) rather than consider it my personal argument.

We both actually have very much the same viewpoint...in general. In particularities, I think it's a matter of contextual differences and that's partly my fault for attempting brevity (not that I achieved it, lol).

As a provider this topic is important to me because so many guys I've seen don't seem to think this activity carries any risk to them (or me), whatsoever.

-- Modified on 2/22/2014 12:18:54 AM

nycad 20 Reviews 1031 reads
posted
24 / 31

1. The provider is exceptionally agile, knows how to move around, and wants to get you that much closer to BBFS.  

2. BBFS is too overt an activity, so this is close but not quite.  

nycad

HooktardGold 1098 reads
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25 / 31

Oral sex compared to genital contact is HALF the risk. Wow... the CDC is your friend. If you're dumb enough to do stripper slide, you may as well go full on BBFS. Also, if you allow bbbj you may as well cim. Tell me some of you have heard this little thing called 'upon contact' please? That means if someone has a damn disease you get in from the contact, not the full insertion. Our educational system is truly in the shitter.  

I may not have a 'clinical degree' in healthcare, but I did spend 7 years taking all the clinical courses requred for the degree I do have, and some of you are just plain stupid! This shit was taught before junior high school, and some of you still want to change the facts. Yes oral sex has risks, but it does NOT have as much risk as genital to genital contact. Riddle me this, why do 90 percent of you DEMAND bbbj, and REFUSE bbfs if it's the same risk? Ha, nuff said.  

Also, the GIVER of oral sex is at MORE risk than the receiver... another FACT which explains once again, why a high percentage of married men will gladly put their uncovered weenie in a hooker's mouth but won't go down on one.  

"Documented Risk: Although the risk is (((((MANY times less than anal or vaginal sex,))))) HIV has been transmitted to receptive partners through fellatio, even in cases when insertive partners didn't ejaculate (about.com/aids)."

"The risk of HIV transmission through oral sex is ((((much less than that from anal or vaginal sex))))—but it is not zero (cdc.gov)."

Duh. Saying stripper slide which is genital to genital contact AND FLUID CONTACT is less or just as ricky as oral sex, is asinine, inaccurate, and just plain ignorant. I don't care if you want to all go fk monkeys without a condom and shove pineapples up your ass, but get your facts straight.  

 

 



-- Modified on 2/22/2014 10:20:56 AM

HooktardGold 1125 reads
posted
26 / 31

ANY genital to genital contact is ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS more risky than any oral contact. Just the FACTS please. FYI, you can't get a trick baby from oral either... thanks.  

Highest risk area for STD's is the anus, second is the vagina, and third is the mouth. This is 4th grade shit... sorry.

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HooktardGold 1200 reads
posted
27 / 31

Exactly, because they are fkin NAIVE! They ASSume they can't get pregnant or catch HIV from just fluids being mixed together... um wtf? Last I checked the fluids were where the shit lived lol. Idiots.

I don't give two flying shits what someone does with their body, but these moronic excuses about risk factors are just too much. If you are doing privates to privates contact and one person has a disease, you don't have to insert to catch the shit. How dumb are grown adults here? Just wow lol. I hope none of these people ever show up in a hospital I work at, because I will be too busy LMAO to treat them.  

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HooktardGold 1524 reads
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28 / 31

It might as well be. If I did SL, I would just go all out and do bbfs... risks are nearly the same if fluid contact is mixed. I have yet to meet a vagina that did not have natural lubrication and I have yet to meet a weenie that did not have precum, ESPECIALLY when having  a raw vagina rubbed on it. Duh, I can get pregnant and AIDS from both, so why not?

AnotherDonJohn 1078 reads
posted
29 / 31

Or hooker /John consensus. Or to fourth graders.
I jumped back in the thread because now you're involved.

Pretty hilarious stuff from you too. I'll play too.  
You used an "always" statement, as in genital-genital contact through a stripper slide only (no direct "mounting" mind you) is more risky than oral- always...

So, i propose a real world (as in it really happened) extreme scenario:
a 32yo hiv+ lady (who didnt know at the time) who was later confirmed gonorrhea/chlamydia/ hsv1+, had NO lesions on the skin, vagina, anus, but she had open cold sores in her mouth. Normal vaginal secretions. no squirting. The 30 yo man has no lesions anywhere on his skin or penis. Normal precum for a male. They engaged in stripper slide and bbbj of equal times.  

Which one gave him the stds he GOT? She cultured negative for everything from her vagina including HIV. He cultured positive for everything but HIV from her mouth. HIV was only positive in her blood test.  

Chuckle. Consensus indeed.
You have your thread back.


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HooktardGold 1055 reads
posted
30 / 31

Yes, genital to genital contact is always more risky for HIV... that is a FACT. We are assuming all things being equal, NOT like in your little apples to oranges comparison of open sores, hon. No shit that would make the odds a bit more interesting. Secretions from the vagina and weenie are much more risky to mix than saliva and secretions... that is just a fact, and the CDC backs it up. Add to that, the CDC has to be very conservative on their advice so by saying there is 'little' chance of transmission from oral sex,' is VERY conservative. You do the math. Why was AIDS labeled a gay disease? Not because of gay guys only, but because it was more contracted in the ANAL region.  

Why do serious drug addicts stop messing with their arms and start giving themselves enemas? Again, best absorbtion is on the anal cavity. Next is the vagina, and FINALLY the dirty ass mouth that is actually worse than a dog's mouth... another fact lol.  


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AnotherDonJohn 1078 reads
posted
31 / 31

My son says you're "not right" and you're "stinky" too.  
He says you're eating "apples" and "oranges" too.  
How did anal and gay sex get lumped into this discussion?
Of course, THAT has a higher risk. As far as we know, the OP is not doing a gay-anal gape stripper slide.
My son says we're debating the straight stripper slide vs. bbbj specifically, not the "big nastiness" in general. Lmao.

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