New York

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LovetoDaty 7 Reviews 749 reads
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1 / 35

I don't mean to sound naive. I've "hobbyed" on and off for >25 years. In the pre-internet days it was very hit-or-miss. It was either a SW you picked up in your car or a "call-girl" to your hotel.  Lot of bait & switch, a lot of disappointment. At least today you can do your "due diligence" and gather research.
So I've been going through the various threads - and checking out the ladies who post. I check out their reviews and I have been bookmarking their websites, etc. I found most of the ladies who post regularly to be very witty and charming, judging from their PM responses, and their websites attest to their physical attractiveness, they have reviews 8-10 range. Now how do I choose who to see?  
Add to this that I do have an agency regular (ATF) who I see 1-2 times a month whenever she comes to town. I know from prior experience it is not a good thing to see only the one lady exclusively so I need some variety). Since I really need ~ 2 hour dates to get to know a lady and for "mutual enjoyment" (plus some of the ladies I am considering require ~ 2hr min.) I can realistically see only ~1 lady per month (unless I sell my house!). I think I will just put all their names in a hat every month and pull out a "lucky winner"

How do you guys decide?

bluepillman 765 reads
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2 / 35

This is my process:
1. Her pics
2. Her reviews, but more specifically, does what she likes to do or what she does well match what I like to do? e.g. if a girl has great reviews and is great looking but is known for LFK only or doesnt allow daty, I scratch her off my list.
3. Her overall professionalism. Website professional or is it some super cheap piece of crap with a million misspellings and crazy fonts and bad design. I am not looking for some Fortune 500 product but it tells me something how serious the lady takes her craft.
4. I pm her last few guys and see what they have to say. The reviews are so overinflated anymore because gusy dont wont the giref of blowing someone's page after page of 10/10 reviews. PM'ing allows more honesty outside of the public spotlight.
5. I search her board posts to ser if our personalities would be a good fit
6. I check out her eros ad, other review sites, DateCheck/P411 profiles, etc to give me something I may have missed in steps 1 thru 5
7. Lastly, I contact the lady in question and see her contact response time, personality and professionalism when replying.

Hope that helps! Good luck!

Lemurrush 125 Reviews 431 reads
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4 / 35

This is only a problem if you live in a major city (like NYC).

If you're on Long Island, this isn't something that ever comes up. You have a handful of agencies, with far fewer women than in the major cities (in fact, today, between the three agencies I use most often, there is *one* woman available). And, traveling ladies rarely ever head out to LI (or, if they do, they expect the economic climate to be equal to NYC, which it isn't).

LovetoDaty 7 Reviews 544 reads
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5 / 35

I will certainly take your suggestions to heart. I strongly agree with many of your points.
Personally - I am not so focused on her "menu". I really consider this to be a YMMV industry.
I wouldn't necesarily rule out a lady if in her profile she. e.g only offers CBJ, or doesn't offer LFK/DFK, or even DATY, if I sense that she has a great personality, attractive (in her own way), even though she is not a "FULL GFE" I would consider her.
Thanks again for your comments "Hang Loose!"

LovetoDaty 7 Reviews 387 reads
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7 / 35

There are several agencies in this area and Indies. Since I am so close to the city I also look into that as a "playground".

Play Safe, play Hard

HoneyDooDoo 423 reads
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8 / 35

Posted By: Lemurrush

If you're on Long Island, this isn't something that ever comes up. You have a handful of agencies, with far fewer women than in the major cities (in fact, today, between the three agencies I use most often, there is *one* woman available). And, traveling ladies rarely ever head out to LI (or, if they do, they expect the economic climate to be equal to NYC, which it isn't).
LI guys are always bitching and moaning about a  lack of women on LI.  Well. between all the busts on LI of  both agencies and Indies, it's no wonder no girls want to go there. That plus guys are known to haggle on LI. These things leave LI guys with a dearth of providers.  Get in your car and drive to Manhattan. Lots of guys from NY state, NJ, and Conn do it without the bitching and whining you LI guys do.  It's not a big deal.  You want quality and variety?  Buckle up and drive to NYC, or quit your bitching.

LovetoDaty 7 Reviews 350 reads
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9 / 35

It's not like sitting on the couch and ordering from a local pizza parlor - sometimes we guys have to  get of our fat ass and drive a bit for "good takeout."

bluepillman 337 reads
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10 / 35
Lemurrush 125 Reviews 392 reads
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11 / 35

I'm probably 90 minutes from NYC -- if everything aligns correctly. For me to spend 3 hours, plus parking, plus tolls, plus inflated prices ... nah, not going to happen.

As I said, I'm not *without* choices -- there are some outstanding ladies here. I was merely saying that I don't ever have the problem of, "hmmm ... whom should I see?"

Busts happen everywhere. There's nothing about LI that makes things more likely. If you screen well, you won't get busted. That's pretty simple. In the meantime, I can still see ladies here; I just don't have the variety ... I would like that; but not at the cost of a half-a-day of traveling, etc.

inicky46 61 Reviews 566 reads
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12 / 35

bluepillman, you have summed up my entire process accurately with only one omission: Go to Meet & Greets.  They are a great way to see girls you might be interested "in the flesh" so you don't have to rely on pictures or guess if her personality is a good fit for you.  I've met half a dozen girls this way and have never been disappointed.  Both parties are much more relaxed when the date happens if they've had a chance to get to know each other over drinks.  My list of M&G honies includes:
Chloe Carter
Ravishing Rasha
Serena V. Woodsen
Cara Saint James
Destiny Delight
Devin Davette
(note: I have not yet dated the last two, but I will!)

LovetoDaty 7 Reviews 321 reads
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15 / 35

Years ago I drove couple times NJ to Boston for the day just to spend a few hours with a really nice lady since she never traveled down to this area. My current ATF lives about 2 1/2 hours from me - we have discussed plans for me to make a day-trip (or perhaps an overnight) to see her near her home. Basically, I can see not traveling too far for general service - but if you find a provider you really like and she is not local then any reasonable travel distance on your part I feel is worthwhile. Just my 2 cents..

Lemurrush 125 Reviews 295 reads
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16 / 35

Posted By: LovetoDaty
Years ago I drove couple times NJ to Boston for the day just to spend a few hours with a really nice lady since she never traveled down to this area. My current ATF lives about 2 1/2 hours from me - we have discussed plans for me to make a day-trip (or perhaps an overnight) to see her near her home. Basically, I can see not traveling too far for general service - but if you find a provider you really like and she is not local then any reasonable travel distance on your part I feel is worthwhile. Just my 2 cents..


I don't entirely disagree; although, I'd always try to tie it in to something else (so, when I travel for work, I'll certainly look for options there; but I would never head there just as a one-off trip.

My point was more - I'm not going to hop in a car to drive 3-4 hours for someone I've never even met. Your point of heading to Boston to meet someone -- that person wouldn't have even shown up on my radar.

LovetoDaty 7 Reviews 253 reads
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17 / 35

I forgot to state she was someone I had already seen previously on several "business trips" to Boston. I doubt I would drive 3-4 hours just to see a stranger.
thanks

CharlesV 306 reads
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18 / 35

I Have flown 10 hours each, to Bogota and back, to meet a lady and spend a week with her; but of course I knew her from NYC and she actually picked me up at the airport. I went, since she had invited me. And instead of paying a daily/weekly fee, I showered her with presents.

LovetoDaty 7 Reviews 293 reads
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19 / 35
LovetoDaty 7 Reviews 216 reads
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20 / 35

That's exactly the reason that I do not post any reviews on the ladies I meet. The only exception would be if there was a scam or a safety issue.

My own preference if there had to be a rating system would be: Did the 2 of you have a good time? Would you see this lady again? Would you recommend her to others? The current review process with the often very graphic details places too much stress on the ladies. If a girl wants to succeed fiancially in this industry she pretty much is required to offer a FULL GFE menu which is what most guys are looking for. Regardless of how young/attractive a woman is some guys will pass her by if her profile says CBJ, or NO LFK/DFK, etc. On top of that she then needs to provide FULL GFE to every client, every time otherwise some jerk will say "hey your profile says DFK why are you only giving me LFK" then she gets a bad review; or his "thing" doesn't "look right" or smells and she puts a cover on it and he complains he is not getting a BBJ = bad review. I'm sure these scenarios are more the exception and that vast majority of the guys are not like that. No matter what the reviews one should approach each encounter as YMMV; be considerate to each other, expect little from her and you will receive a LOT!!!
(trust me)

nycad 20 Reviews 305 reads
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21 / 35

Your process covers a lot of the variable. Good for you.

nycad

Posted By: bluepillman
This is my process:
1. Her pics
2. Her reviews, but more specifically, does what she likes to do or what she does well match what I like to do? e.g. if a girl has great reviews and is great looking but is known for LFK only or doesnt allow daty, I scratch her off my list.
3. Her overall professionalism. Website professional or is it some super cheap piece of crap with a million misspellings and crazy fonts and bad design. I am not looking for some Fortune 500 product but it tells me something how serious the lady takes her craft.
4. I pm her last few guys and see what they have to say. The reviews are so overinflated anymore because gusy dont wont the giref of blowing someone's page after page of 10/10 reviews. PM'ing allows more honesty outside of the public spotlight.
5. I search her board posts to ser if our personalities would be a good fit
6. I check out her eros ad, other review sites, DateCheck/P411 profiles, etc to give me something I may have missed in steps 1 thru 5
7. Lastly, I contact the lady in question and see her contact response time, personality and professionalism when replying.

Hope that helps! Good luck!

nycad 20 Reviews 301 reads
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23 / 35

Well, I've read this entire thread, so far, and I've thought about it and here's my take on how I pick em'....
BTW, this is a great thread. It's a good topic to get perspective on from other hobbyists.

I think for me it's a real thoughtful process....
The reality for me is that economics does play a part in my decision process. It might not be the first thing on my list, but it's certainly not the last thing on my list either. The reality is that with the general economy being what it is, you're either crazy if you don't factor it in, or you're in the 1% income bracket that doesn't think about it and has disposable income to burn. Well that's not me, so I really think about my choices.

Looks are always a consideration, but not in the way you think.. I'm in the communications, marketing and design biz (and in that world I've been around the fashion biz enough to know what I'm looking at) so when I look at pictures of the ladies, I'm probably looking beyond what the average guy sees. I have a trained vision for photography composition and I can often look past the picture in front of me and I have a sense of what I'd expect in real life...

Highly produced photoshoot pics might say the girl has made the sacrifice to invest a lot into marketing herself and that says a lot for initiative to stand out in a crowd, but it also might convey that she's too high profile for a down to earth connection and ultimately neither of us have a good time. Conversely, crappy pictures might convey that the girl doesn't really care and she's just going thru the motions, but she might just be starting out and can't do a slick photoshoot, so there's that to consider. Sometimes candid pictures can really be a lot of fun - giving a playful vibe. Those kind of girls are usually the best to connect with.

Review are reviews, sometimes they can be totally accurate and other times they can be totally off base and biased for one reason or another. Sure, I look at them, but it's not the be all to end all that helps me make a final decision to see a girl.

It's also nice to see how a gal communicates with me before I make any decision. Does she chat on the boards a lot, does she communicate thru twitter, how do we click via email communication? All that is taken into consideration.

As far as resources go, I've found that P411 profiles are a really nice addendum to the info I get on TER. Put all the stuff above together, shake it up well and I make a decision from there.

Since I don't hobby with great frequency as some of the other guys are so lucky to be able to do, it is, as I've said, a thoughtful process. And usually, when I do make that decision of who I'll see. I try very hard to make sure that each of us has an enjoyable time that both of us can be happy with.

nycad

LovetoDaty 7 Reviews 215 reads
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24 / 35

Dear Taylor, I think I am begining to understand what is bothering you so much? Yes, I agree with you there is much to be said for spontaneity which makes any relationship that much more enjoyable and memorable.

As far all those crazy codes the guys use - I guess we really should put the blame where it needs to be - the internet. Back in the good "old days", I never new what to "expect" when I was about to meet a lady, (any girl whether civilian or escort). You could call it a "blind date?" Yes, you might say it was like letting nature take its course which can be fun and rewarding.

Today, I think some guys go into an appointment already with a "game plan" based on a menu: e.g.  First she's going to give me DFK as soon as I walk-in the door; next I'll play with her titties for 5 minutes, then DATY her for 5 minutes, then she gives me a BBJ, then we do "doggie" , "CG", and finish with"mish". Chat up some bullshit with her while I recover, then go back for a "second cup".
What appears to be missing from the above scenario is any semblance of "romance" which you, as a courtesan, (or any woman for that matter) really appreciate especially when it is spontaneous.
Please don't be offended - but perhaps you are just not meeting enough of the right gentlemen at the moment. Perhaps some modification in your screening process; emails, perhaps even some gentle conversation over the phone?
Stay Safe and Happy

bluepillman 172 reads
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26 / 35

You're not the one plunking down $500-$1000 an hour like we are. We are more than capable of coming up with our own set of criteria for how we want to spend it, thank you very much. When you ladies give it away for free, I will be more willing to go with my gut instinct. Until then, I'll stick with my "Angie's List" approach.

dawgdish 47 Reviews 318 reads
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27 / 35

I look for the perfect confluence of attractiveness, performance, and price point. Specifically, for me, someone on the younger side and in shape who is GFE for under $400 (greek offered a big bonus!). What will keep me coming back is chemistry.

-- Modified on 2/3/2013 8:23:15 AM

Nightporter 15 Reviews 231 reads
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29 / 35


That's interesting.  My ATF was not physically my type but the chemistry flowed naturally.

bluepillman 189 reads
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30 / 35

I just dont get why you give a shit as what methods we use to choose the women we see. I mean I dont care what men you chose to see or not to see. You said you like to see younger men. Great! I dont care. Many ladies dont see younger men. Great! I dont care. I just have no idea why it bothers you that we do our homework before we pay. Do you not do the same thing when you go shopping for clothes, handbags, any type of merhcandise or service? Of course you do.

bluepillman 205 reads
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31 / 35

I have said nothing against your person. You are highly critical of people but you cant take critisism well and thats an understatement. Its odd that you never thought my alias was ridiculous all the other times. I'd be happy to have a real conversation, but dont cop out of having it because I use a perfectly accepted alias, that many men use. Ball is in your court.

OhOh24 22 Reviews 171 reads
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32 / 35

That's why the M&Gs are so valuable.  You can determine if you "click"

mrjava 25 Reviews 294 reads
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34 / 35

My process is very visual and in-line with the male stereotype that we're visual first. If you read my reviews, you know I have physical aspect that I look for. What frustrates me more than anything is when a provider uses crappy photos. And by crappy photos, I mean the following:
- mirror shots
- small photos (100x200 or 300x500), c'mon an iPad mini is 1024x768 - make it at least 800x600, a full body pic that's sized at 100x200 is useless
- unclear/blurry/out of focus photos and I don't mean show the face. I don't care if you go into Windows paint and draw a black rectangle over your face. If you blurred the photo so I can't even make out our physique, it's useless.

What's even more crazy is when a provider's rates are higher (mid-3 figures and up) and the photos are like that. It just shows you don't care. I'm not saying that you need to break the bank on a shoot. Even if all you did was take an iPhone or a point&shoot camera and had someone take photos of you, that would be fine. I'm not looking for heavy Photoshop or any Photoshop for that matter. A perfect example is a provider from the Midwest who toured recently. Her content was plenty original and her photos were clear. Nothing fancy and she seemed to have booked up quick.

If you want to go fancy, go to a female boudoir photographer. Most male photographers in this space do the same stupid poses and they don't know how to pose people. There are some great reasonably priced female photographers in NYC - you just have to do your homework. But again, the homemade photos are enough.

Other factors for me, are the content and interaction. You can tell a lot from her posts on forums, Twitter, blog, etc. The more data points, the better it is for me. The one thing I'd recommend against is tweeting about politics, religion, etc. The downside outweighs the upside in my opinion.

bluepillman 219 reads
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35 / 35

You sound angry, bitter, insecure and childish. You make everything about you. Yes, guys tend not to want to see women who are constantly involved in drama day in and day out. They come to this biz to get AWAY from the bullshit of their lives. You consistently talk down to "the guys" as if they are some bunch of 4th graders getting out of their seats and chewing gum in class. Its like you and only you know what guys should look for in website...or pics....or text. And by implication its because we are oh so dumb we cant figure out that we should ALL be calling you. You look down your nose at us. You dont need to do any of those things you mentioned in your post. You just to come back with a positive outlook. Do that, and I will be a big fan.

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