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Any intel on these visitin: Stephanie Taylor and Ashley Grand?
AnotherDonJohn 1311 reads
posted
1 / 18

I won't link their ads (or else an idiot will call this a shill which is the opposite of my intent).

The reason I ask is there are some suspicious coincidences:

1. Their ads are back to back on the ad board.
2. Their websites use the same template/server. Not completely unusual to see this but highly coincidental for back to back ads.
3. They only have two reviews each.  Their lead off reviewer in both cases is a "Jdonkey." He has given them identical scores 10/7. Did I mention they're in two different cities? Miami and Phoenix. The rest of his reviews smell funny too. More 10s in six reviews than I've given in 12 years. (Link)

It'd be helpful and better for their business if the girls or jdonkey answers this.

It all seems a little weird.  

On a minor note, their profiles aren't linked to their reviews so you have to find it.

-- Modified on 1/25/2014 4:38:11 PM

dedoris 485 reads
posted
2 / 18

I, too, saw their ads on the NY board and was pretty intrigued.  That is, until I came up with the same list of suspicious circumstances you mention.  After figuring that out, it was damn easy to move on.  Absent compelling evidence to the contrary, I suggest you do, too.

AnotherDonJohn 503 reads
posted
3 / 18

Otherwise, this scenario is being outed already on the RO board.

Dave76015 38 Reviews 500 reads
posted
4 / 18

Big steaming pile of potential ripoff crap, IMHO
Her story is spreading her wings away from agency, but I've never her ads down here.

AlternativeMe1 27 Reviews 435 reads
posted
5 / 18

Stephanie's been advertising in Florida, but I've been extremely skeptical.

It takes a lot for me to be willing to TOFTT

StephanieTaylor See my TER Reviews 462 reads
posted
6 / 18

I am not totally sure what AnotherDonJuan is accusing me of but allow me to clarify and confirm the things he pointed out. I am hoping that the TER moderators will give me a little latitude with the Board rules to allow me to properly respond.  

My name is Stephanie Taylor. I was raised in the Denver area but until recently I was living in Phoenix. I am currently going to school in Miami. There is a very well known local review Board in Denver, affiliated with P411, where I have 7 reviews dating back to April of last year. Those 7 reviewers have a total of 18 reviews for other providers dating back to October 2012. I know I have reviews on at least one other site.

If AnotherDonJuan had done the tiniest amount of research by looking at my website he would have found all these other reviews. Instead he posted that I only have “two reviews” and somehow all these people I just mentioned conspired with me so I could pull the wool over your eyes with my trip to NYC this weekend. Does that make any sense?

Just recently a friend of mine in Phoenix named Ashley Grand wanted to get into this business independently. As a good friend, I offered to help her with resources, advice and contacts. Of course there are similarities and connections between us – we are friends. One of my clients travels a lot and I recommended Ashley to him. After visiting with her in Phoenix, in his review of her he wrote that “Ashley was recommended to me by a friend of hers who I have seen several times before”.  That is very upfront and clear.

Being friends, Ashley and I wanted to do a working vacation together to New York City. Some posting boards have rules that only allow us to post specifics about ourselves, not other providers.  To avoid breaking any rules, we each mentioned we would be visiting NYC with a friend. We intentionally posted them back-to-back so guys would make the connection that we were each talking about the other. We even used the same type font and color of our names in our pictures to make the connection. Congratulations to AnotherDonJuan for figuring out the obvious.

In addition to all this, both of us are P411 members, which requires far more scrutiny than what AnotherDonJuan provided us.

Some providers say they are in school as part of their online persona but I really am in school in Miami. That is why Ashley will be arriving on Wednesday but I will not arrive until Saturday. I am not making this up, I have classes I must attend on Friday.

I have easily connected all the dots and they clearly make a straight line. I would invite AnotherDonJuan to visit with either one of us or both of us together in New York this weekend. This is no drama, there is no conspiracy. Please remember Occam's razor that basically says that the simplest explanation is usually the right one

AnotherDonJohn 351 reads
posted
7 / 18

It is a reasonable story.
And I commend you for responding -quite appropriate and courageous.  
There was the residual doubt as others from your own localities, not just I, expressed.  
Therefore, it's in your interest to sort things out so that you have a good tour and good future business.  

Btw please don't misunderstand me.  
I'm happy to volunteer myself to be proven wrong. Just pm me to discuss further.  

For better or worse, someone pointed out on the GD board ( I didn't even know this) that I am currently the #1 poster on ter by a ny marathon mile.  
Posts aren't counted for an alias so I don't show up in the official count,
Which was my intention. Oh well, people are too sharp.  

Which also makes me the biggest loudmouth. Lol.  
I try to point out scams and scammers, but I may gloss over some details and get some wrong.  
I usually just speak my mind and try to offer some entertaining analysis.

StephanieTaylor See my TER Reviews 436 reads
posted
8 / 18

If I squint my eyes together, this almost looks like an apology but I have been wrong before.

The problem for me and Ashley is that it is impossible to unring a bell. This thread is now buried well down the list and many from NYC read your original post, reached an incorrect conclusion and will never seen my response. Thank you very much.

AnotherDonJohn 396 reads
posted
9 / 18

1. If necessary people can always post a  new update here.

2. There is also an unmoderated reviewers' board, where I also am a member. I would be happy to post an apology there if I am proven wrong.  

Even if it is someone else, I suggest that you find an established reviewer, because the first reviewer you both have raises some red flags, IMHO, not only with me but with guys in your local areas (judging from their posts).

-- Modified on 1/27/2014 6:15:59 PM

AnotherDonJohn 373 reads
posted
10 / 18

they're from two other boards, which aren't as well known here.  

The reviewer with the most reviews had 6, and again, it's from a lesser known board.

That's why I didn't mention it in the OP.

Also, you should link your reviews on TER to your profile. It's an extra step for someone to open up your website and find your review tab. You'll note the guy who posted under your ad didn't know you had any reviews for this reason.

Just my $.02.

Best of luck, ADJ

jimmyjazz37 226 Reviews 359 reads
posted
11 / 18

ADJ- I realize you're trying to do. "Public service" here, but when was the last time that you saw fake reviews that topped out at 7? I don't see what's so "suspicious" here ...

AnotherDonJohn 367 reads
posted
12 / 18

There is a post behind the wall with more analysis on the first reviewer.  

The scores were capped at 7 for their being FbSM although the jdonkey /first review (the suspect one) involved fs, according to the details. A 7 in FBSM is like a 9/10 in GFE FS.

And btw, since I already have this post open, I'd add the lady wrote a nice reply including saying she /her friend and I could discuss in pm. There's been no such attempt to communicate. So just lip service so far. Smoke and mirrors.  



-- Modified on 1/29/2014 11:43:21 AM

jammee 2 Reviews 342 reads
posted
13 / 18

You have clearly and gracefully explained ADJ's concerns even going beyond what was required. Kudos to you for taking the high road on this. IMHO, two classy ladies. I wish you all the best on your vacation together.

jammee 2 Reviews 434 reads
posted
14 / 18

Ashley and Stephanie have certainly taken the high ground. Stephanie very clearly explained all your concerns and yet you hang on to the tinest thread to prove your point.

God Almighty could come down and strike you to the ground and you would still say with your last breath, but she only has 7 reviews.

AnotherDonJohn 402 reads
posted
15 / 18

That would double or triple your reviews. While they get a local reviewer with 2-3 reviews.  

Write your review now, and send it to them.
It helps get a better experience.

While some of us here who expressed caution because we've got decades of experience will let you take your chances.

High road on a f-ckboard. Indeed, newbie.  


-- Modified on 1/29/2014 9:32:43 PM

AnotherDonJohn 361 reads
posted
16 / 18

The shills for nonestablished girls make me more, not less, wary.

Caveat emptor.



-- Modified on 1/29/2014 9:43:32 PM

AnotherDonJohn 387 reads
posted
17 / 18

Here comes bright eye jammee with 1 review. Skippy!  

Ladies It is clear to everyone but ADJ


-- Modified on 1/29/2014 9:40:51 PM

jimmyjazz37 226 Reviews 434 reads
posted
18 / 18

Thanks for replying - I'm still confused - at you saying that TER capped them? Both have profiles that say they offer "escort" and so forth, and the donkey reviewer (as you said) clearly lists his activities with them as of that variety. Why wouldn't he give them higher ratings if they offered him services that qualified for higher ratings? Maybe I missed the part where donkey explains that he couldn't give higher ratings?  

As you'll see, I have a long review history (mostly FBSM, but some sweet Indy escorts as well from time to time) but I've never seen this sort of review history before. If he was shilling them, it seems to me he failed, based on the 7s and what other reviewers seem to go for when selecting providers based on ratings/reviews, but I do not claim to be an expert. To be honest, these ladies aren't my types anyway, so I do 'to have a dog in this fight, one way or the other.

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