Always went the way of CBJ and partaking in DATY only if provider gave CBJ only. The more I read, it appears that BBBJ is somewhat of the norm now. Am I being overly paranoid about taking something home with me other than a nice memory or smile?

Condoms are bad enough for full service, but no way I'm donning latex for a BJ. Knock yourself out.  

oy I'm sorry I asked the question

lmao! Brilliant pic!

Serena Vincente x

Under the impression that BBBJ can lead to transmission of STD

If you are doing DATY, then there is zero point in getting a CBJ.

You are putting your mouth, with it's mucous membranes, right into her pussy.  I'm always amazed at how many people rail against BBFS but think DATY is as safe as could be.

Why do something that keeps you awake at night? I sleep soundly. I recommend that you do your research and decide what's best for you.

You are not "under the impression". This is the reality. BBBJ would expose both partners to a few incurable diseases, such as: HPV which may cause warts and cancer, herpes type 1, genital herpes, hepatitis, and possibly some bacterial diseases, such as: gonorrhea, chlamydia and syphilis.

Contrary to popular belief, offering DATY would not expose you to the same risks. Transmission is relatively unlikely since the site of infection is the cervix, a part of the female anatomy not reached during DATY. Herpes and syphilis are possibilities, but in general the risk is so low that most people don't bother worrying about it.

Be safe,

Anais

From the Minnesota board, good information.

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?BoardID=21&SortBy=DateCreated%20desc&SearchType=1&Author=vallen&DayFrom=30&DayTo=0&MessageID=170048&frmSearch=1#170048

That is my point!
I would feel uncomfortable  engaging in DATY with a provider who offers BBBJ. The provider who is offering CBJ only ( and yes I understand there may be the exception),  IMHO suggests there would be less of a risk
Is my logic flawed?

no offense taken-  thankyou

First of all, it's possible that though she defaults to CBJ's, she switches to BBBJ if the client asks.  

Even if she only does CBJ's with clients, that doesn't mean that she isn't having BB sex with her boyfriend or pimp if she has one.  And there is no telling how many people they are with.  

So, offering CBJ's isn't an indication of health, it's only a preventer of transmission (which is negated by DATY).

Finally, since diseases can be transmitted through DATY, then she can get a disease that way and then give it to you that way, and the odds of that don't change based on whether her BJ's are covered.

In the end, as has been said before, it comes down to your own comfort level.  Each of us needs to be able to walk out of the session having enjoyed ourselves, and not worrying about this or that.  

But, if you are engaging in DATY, then you are sticking an uncovered part of your body into her pussy.  As far as body fluid exchange goes, you are close to what you would experience from BBFS.  So, having her use a condom to blow you really is just pretending to be safe.  

It's kinda like playing professional football wearing a helmet, but no other padding whatsoever and thinking it's going to protect you from harm.

And there ARE risks associated w/bbbj. So if you don't feel comfortable taking the risk, abstain, regardless of whether it's the 'norm' or not. If everyone else jumped off a bridge, would you jump too?

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It's safer (for me) than BBFS, that's for sure.

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/factsheets/oralsex.htm

There's basically no point in mocking or judging each other for our individual choices regarding our sexual health risks.  There are always risks to any kind of sexual contact involving fluid exchange.  To some people, that seems worthwhile, and to some people, it doesn't.

It's really good to be educated about the facts, though, when making your choices.  DATY has been clearly shown to be a lower risk activity than BBBJ.  I know it's not "fair," but it's a fact.

Remember, don't play with any open cuts or sores in your mouth, don't brush your teeth right before a session (bleeding gums, even micro-tears, can transmit HIV), and if you do BBBJ, "spit or swallow, don't let it wallow."  (In some ways this means swallowing is safer than waiting 10 seconds to go over to the bathroom to spit.)  Another safety tip is to not put your fingers inside anyone's body without a glove on if you have any cuts on your hands (you can test with lemon juice or vinegar before your appointment if you want).  They sell really sexy black gloves online that don't have that "doctor's office" feel.

Play safe!  Or don't!  It's up to you.  And whoever you're playing with.

Here is my take on it ..

If you are single, or no longer ever sleeping with your SO, the risk is almost non-existant.  HIV is not an issue, and the most common other issues like chlamydia , ghon, and syphilis show symptoms quickly and are treatable.

You could get HPV or Herpes (HSV) which are permanent.  HSV would be super-rare if you don't see an open mouth sore of some sort - I personally wouldnt worry too much about that via oral.

The biggest issue, IMO, is if you are still sleeping with your SO in a longterm relationship - you could be asking for trouble via HPV (warts).  A number of strains can live in the throat .. as a male you will most likely never see any symptoms but can very easily transfer it.  All of a sudden in a year or two your wife tells you she has an abmormal papsmear that she hasn't had in 20 years and you're life is turned upside down.

Do your research and do whats comfortable for you.

A note - 75% or more of the general pop is estimated to have at least one of the HPV types.  That means a provider is almost bound to have HPV even if they are symptom free, which most people are.  It is transmitted skin to skin and can be transmitted even with a cover to around the base, etc. - so at some point I think you just need to accept it as a possibility if you choose to hobby, cover or otherwise.

Good point on hpv. Can case cervical cancer down the road. Fortunately there has been a vaccine for teenage girls for couple of years now (My daughter got the vacine). Some Drs. think Boys should also be vaccinated