I have to say although I'm relatively new to TER (not to the industry) I'm pretty floored by the responses I receive from individuals trying to haggle and negotiate my rates. Like really? You took a look at my thousand dollar photos and website and genuinely believed I'd settle for your offer of $200 bucks and a grilled cheese sandwich? Hahaha  

Real gentlemen who appreciate the company of beautiful, sophisticated and smart women WILL NEVER attempt to barter or negotiate. But remember, some girls DO negotiate for reviews, etc. encouraging men to portrait this bad behavior. Just stick to your guns and you will be handsomely rewarded for your patience and persistence. Try to post more on the boards, sometimes attending a meet and greet will be beneficial so you can put yourself out there in order to cater to the crowd you are willing to attract.  

But I am sure you knew that! You are stunning! they aren't thinking for real, plus you are a double major at a prestigious place.. You will be ok

Oh, thanks Paloma! You're so sweet!! Girl, you too! Love your photos, especially amongst all the pretty flowers.  

I just got the same thing and I think they get off on it really. Don't give them a second thought. It's unfortunate that they waste your time.

the least he could've done was add a tomato, maybe some bacon and a bag of Lay's potato chips

http://urbanintellectuals.com/2013/09/05/7-symptoms-poverty-mentality/
 See # 6
 - - can t afford anything ELSE   to do  
JUST SEX  
Why level of birth are higher in poor countries and prostitution  is blooming in those  economically disadvantage countries?
 So sad that states "diving" there as well ..
 
 HERE ON TER ARE NOT THE BEST doing IN LIFE MEN AND WOMEN...-( in majority of course - there are always can be found no more then 5 % of intelligent by birth, lucky to be educated, and just kind by nature people who would treat other people not as trash and would not put price tag on licks , sucks, daty dato anal, etc ).. -

Just to emphasize and clear it up for some folks here:

Was juussstt thinking the same thing lol

Well stated.

https://youtu.be/gPnswWbulKQ

One you add tomato and bacon it's a BLT with cheese, not a grilled cheese sandwich.

Did you counter that you would get together for $730 and a tuna melt?

Naomi your pricing is high for someone without reviews. BUT what the client needs to understand is that he either takes you or not at your posted pricing. It is that simple. Move on dude without negotiating. If you decide you want a little more action than you are getting at $750 you may run a special. However, these jerks will still try to lowball you.

I have to thank you MidAgedCeo as its been a long day and I needed a good laugh. Thanks for obliging

Your rates are not high for having no reviews. Some independent women and agencies don't do reviews at all. And in my humble opinion, it's better that way. It's far more discrete.
Summer is slow for everyone. So ignore CEO.
And ignore the guys who try to haggle with you over your rate. Believe it or not, there really are people out there who will ask for the Aston Martin for the price of a Hyundai. In their minds, at least they tried.

I know you are a newbie but putting a post to whine and make yourself sound special is pretty desperate to get some attention.  
If you have done your research before entering this hobby, you should know that you will get messages from people who will haggle, you will have cancellations and people will flake out on you, you will have fake reviews etc. If you intend to make a big deal about every small incident than you are not ready to be a courtesan, you are a drama queen fit for bp.

It's not a BLT without the lettuce.

A certain Kendall who was UTR and very popular here in NY, are you?  The one who was second to no other?  Do tell.  

After checking your website, your rates are slightly above average for NYC, but not outlandish by any means.  At least at the TER level.  If you check out other websites (I can think of one that is big in the NY metro area and NJ), you will find that many hobbyists would consider you (and most of us here) to be "high rollers".  $$$$ and up is too much for their beer budgets, and above what they they are willing to pay.  That's fine...there's nothing wrong (actually, it's smart) with having a budget, but most of who have a few more bucks to spend would rather drink Sam Adams than Bud or Miller, when we drink beer, of course.  I'm sure you get the analogy.    

I could be wrong but she seems like any other person posting something about the BS that's comes with the hobby. Where do you get desparate?? How is this different from a post about a "bait and switch"? She's just taking about the dumbness that comes with it.  

These gorgeous ladies throw excellent parties!

There are so many middle aged African American women on back page  
And they charge 100

Where do you see older black woman? I'm lookin at a tite ass and high tits. Looks pretty youthful to me

You can throw a rock in Brooklyn and find 4 hookers like her for 100 bucks

ack man like you will pay a white woman 500 per hour and will not pay a black woman that amount  

She can charge whatever she wants
No one will pay 750 for that

at this point no one should see your ass  

This guy's a class act.

Actually, there are some that beg to differ. While I'm not going to entertain your comment in a way of race, I have had several people tell me that the OP was the best looking at a recent NYC meet and greet. So yes,there's many people who will pay whatever SHE believes her worth is.  Who are you, or anyone but the actual provider, to say what their worth is? Ignorance really is bliss for some.

P A T H E T I C  

Take several seats.

OMG - well said -

All I said was she is going to have a hard time finding dudes  
To pay 750

They are trying to do this in westchester  
They want to make it more like the Bronx.  

Why are you posting this vitriol under my post?  Your negative post should be moved so that your attack on the provider who posted the original message is placed properly.  I'll let your commentary, and all that followed, speak for itself...

A black man who will tear down a sister about her rates and looks.A damn shame she is hot period.
Will turn around and see a white provider and pay 750 and not blink an eye.
That is if she will even see him and with his nasty attitude I don't think a provider of any race will be interested.
But how dare a sista charge that much?Boy I tell you...and if he is on BP for $100 providers in NYC good luck with that.lmao

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So well said -- FYI Middle Aged Ceo is a negative Putzzzz and he probably wishes he could afford to spend the money to see such a lovely women's as you

I wouldnt pay 750 for someone thats so ordinary

I noticed one of the gals you reviewed was a friend of mine. Except that she's never met you. She doesn't really follow these things much and hadn't noticed it before. And now, she's having trouble getting the review pulled.
Given that you review girls you've never seen, you're hardly the right person to provide a view on what a session with anyone is worth.

a hottie! I wanted to jump her bones when I met her that night and I'd agree with whoever said that!

Vargas Unite!

You are sexy
Just paying a well deserved compliment.
in this industry, as any other, on this site, as many others... there are many types of "friends" with a wide array of requests. Take no offense to any, boys will be boys & men will stand out amongst them.

Surely, as a CEO, you can afford to clean up the stench and bad feelings you leave behind too, no?

Well maybe people should explain why almost every black provider who uses those professional photos go at least 3 shades lighter then their own actual color.

ac --- do you know anything about photography - you have a professional shoot and you are a woman of color they have alot of lightening in the room --- and with the lightening in the room changes our skin tone  

Obviously she wouldn't fuck you for free.  

Obviously she wouldn't fuck you for free that is why she is charging.
 
Judging by your reviews, you REALLY shouldn't pretend like you pay for anything special. Special doesn't cost what you paid either for a subpar experience (Oh wait, it does when you get what you paid for). I'd pick the OP over the ones you've seen (or claim to, someone just posted one of the hookers never saw you)
 
Nothing you said was helpful nor nice. Obviously you got a problem with race. Very ungentlemanly to degrade a woman based on her looks. BTW  You could have just not commented with your hate but you just had to to make yourself feel better.
 
I do think she is worth it and plenty of guys who have money will see her at the rates she asks for. Many haven't yet because they want to see a few reviews first. See, now that is a helpful response.  
 
I was just in town and she was one of the ones I was considering, but I am not much for TOFTT. I just went with 2 of the well reviewed hookers in this city. (Wanted to make sure I had a great time). Once she gets a few reviews, I will very well book with her at her current rate, at multi hours.
 
Hey, if you see better hookers, maybe you won't be so crabby and mean. I mean, shit, you have at least 20 highly reviewed hookers in your city and you haven't ponied up to see any of them? Now they are the real special treats

Team Vargas Unite!

Thanks Lovely!! This thread has been a blessing and a curse, but the cream has lost certainly risen to the top. I've definitely come across some scum bags but I've meant some cool people too.

I appreciate the support Babe!

Dude you're pathetic like seriously. My photos haven't been lightened nor enhanced and they are STUNNING. And the BS about Black Providers lightening their skin tones in photos is completely false. I've met many Black Providers in person and they are equally as lovely as their photos- skin tone and all.  

When I wrote the above post I never expected to receive the reaction I did. The post was met with a myriad of responses some down right disgusting and vile to supportive and welcoming; I trust you all know you are.  

Hey, hey!!! Told ya you were amazing. Fuck the 2 tards. Shine on through with your beauty and don't settle for less than you want.

Just check off the dumbasses as DNS and make sure you keep me on the see list once you have reviews beautiful

Its almost hilarious if not for how sad some of these guys are.

The good thing is as hobbyists we can pay what we want and not settle for just any price.
I only pay high prices for long term dates that click with me.
When I see a provider talk about costs.
How good can a date really be with her if that is the first thing coming out of her mouth?
It's some really great long term providers still on here that don't talk about rates for a reason.
They don't have too and still do very well for themselves.
So yes it's a supply and demand market.
The providers that can read the market and are the long term successful ones!

Posted By: MidAgedCEO

Just to emphasize and clear it up for some folks here:  
   
 If you put on a million dollar necklace, that does not make you worth a million dollar it makes the necklace worth a million dollars  
   
 Just cause you drive a million dollar car do not make you worth a million dollar, the car is worth a million dollar  
   
 Just cause you wear thousand dollar clothing do not make you worth a thousand dollar, the clothing is worth a thousand dollar  
   
 And getting back to the matter:  
 Just cause you have thousand dollar photos does not make you worth a thousand dollars, it makes the photos worth a thousand dollars with the person who took them and had to probably clean up all the flaws.  
   
   
 Let me guess I bet those "people" offering you 200 for your time probably didn't even bother leaving a name, a contact number nor any other info huh?  I bet even if you accepted the 200 offer that person probably wouldn't even show up?  Seeing your ad is public, every joe shmo and 12 year old boy probably seen your website and have your email address.  
 Its sadder to think you even thought these emails, the person behind it was actually serious in meeting you.  
   
 It says more about YOU then these "people" you are bitching about, if you are only getting these type of inquires.  
   
 You know what classy and ladies who have actual real clients and REAL email inquires do:   They are too busy to bother even answering or giving such emails the time of day  
   
 For you to come here to whine and bitch about something like this, pretty much show the type of inquires you are currently receiving, which is a good bet ....nothing and you have no actual serious suitors.  
   
 On a side note guys:  should I start a thread and bitch and moan about how I got spam mail now on my hobby email because some lady was probably not securing her own email properly  
   
   

Posted By: NaomiVargas

I have to say although I'm relatively new to TER (not to the industry) I'm pretty floored by the responses I receive from individuals trying to haggle and negotiate my rates. Like really? You took a look at my thousand dollar photos and website and genuinely believed I'd settle for your offer of $200 bucks and a grilled cheese sandwich? Hahaha    
     
   Ladies is this the norm?  
     
  Gentlemen, what are you thinking? Are you thinking? LOL    
     
 

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However, pretentiousness is never a good look on anybody.  

And she was hot. 19. And so loving
She loved my cream colored cock
It was 150 for a full hour

You black girls who can't stand the fact that a "brotha" might prefer white women are the ones who are angry. Do you EVER see white women upset about the fact that "some" white men prefer  black women over white? But let a black man see a white woman and it's not the racist white men and women that come out to crucify him, it's black women who get their back up over the very idea that a black man might prefer women of another race.

and you couldn't have picked a better board to do it on.  MAC called it when he said this board was full of spineless suckups.

I find it interesting when a lady associates "what their worth is" with regards to what they charge.

Until you actually see her, you don't have a fucking clue as to whether her pics are accurate, how she is BCD, or if she is even a legit provider. Quite frankly, NONE of us know shit about her except what we see on her website.

or perhaps Asian. :-

Don't BS me now, Chief.

Modern day bigots excuse racism by anyone other than a white man

Yes you're exactly right I expected to be disrespected and to be spoken to so poorly by a group of individuals who don't even know me. Yes I welcomed the racist and vile comments I received. Let me guess you're the same guy that believes if a woman is scantily clad and is attacked then she "deserved and or wanted it".  

and then you get all butt hurt because not everyone kissed your ass>

Does ne1 on this site have a real job? Why the hell are you guys always on here? If yall spent more time out gettin some instead of talkin bout it youd all be happier nut cases. Just saying

Hardnight is welcome to like whoever he wants. he's small change, peanuts.  

the "angry black man" is about as black as Pat Sajak. That's just his way of injecting a little confusion/humor into the whole discussion here. He's actually a card-carrying member of the Klan. Check his history and that of some of his buddies.

a black person, even if it is for the noble purpose of furthering hatred between the races.
You better hope it's not true what they say about how "once you go black, you never go back"

White man pretend to be black and in the KKK  

nd he is white KKK male - wow  

haha  

then maybe you can tell us how to act.And just for your information most black men who prefer white women I have no issue with.I DO have an issue with the black man acting as if a black woman is beneath him and rude comments he will not give credit where credit is due.
Naomi is hot.You have NO idea what you are talking about regarding how black women feel.
 I suggest you stay over on the gb

I think he's wrong in how he said it, black, asian, white, purple, green, ALL races of women are on back page, and all races of women on back page have had ridiculously low rates. With that being said, it is VERY easy to find an african american woman in this industry and its hard to get them work.  
 
I have hired beautiful AA women, only for them to get a few appts at low rates if we're lucky, compared to my hiring a average GND blonde white lady and having to turn appointments down for her on any given day. They can both be same in service and attitude. I agree that it would be very hard for an AA woman to get 750 in NYC, period. NYC is THE city to be with the higher rates, ( disagree with the gent that said her rates are high for NYC, absurd) I think her rates are high period. Ive always said you can charge whatever you want, the consumers will determine what rates you actually stay at. You can be $600 an hour on your web site all day and get 1 appt a month or you can be 350, 400 an hour and make enough money to live. However she may be the type who only wants 1, 2 appointment a month, and has a full time career? I know from applicants Ive spoken with, my own friends, other indies that it is very hard for a gorgeous AA woman to charge high rates, period. Only she knows if the emails and phone calls are coming in. If she is charging 750 and getting it, then thats great for her. I have noticed in the last few years that more women entering this industry have more unrealistic expectations and want ridiculous rates.  Im not talking shit or insulting, its just IMHO the way it is.  
 
This isn't Capital one, we don't need to know whats going in her wallet, its her business. If you won't pay her rate move on, if she gets appointments then goody gum drops for her, if she changes rates then that's her business. Also, some places are better to advertise than others, on certain sites you can expect the hagglers, whereas on certain sites they are serious bookers.  

I found this thread educational.  I dip into the hobby every now and again.  If a woman catches my eye as a possible companion that I might be interested in spending some time with, I make a record of it and if I'm in her city, I may just give her a call.  Naomi (the OP) was on my list, which is what led me to click through to the thread.

All I said was you can find a much hotter black hooker for much less  

A bunch of little girls you are

She starts at 90 minutes  
And it have me the feeling that she was out to get every buck  

A lady can charge whatever she damn pleases.

You're the arrogant one who thinks you should be able to dictate what she does. Retard.

Sorry, not sorry.

I can't imagine what must be going through the girls' minds seeing him and interacting with him in person.

Most men, unlike you, aren't total assholes.

Too funny!

If you spent over 1k for those photos and website - I'd ask for a refund

Your basically as worthless as a person as the amount you probably think people should pay for you or your kind.

Blame the photographer and lighting all you want.

Hahaha, I must have really hit a nerve! I'm laughing so hard I'm crying!

Way to out yourself right there. Maybe hardnight will PM you the info to his latest KKK chapter meeting and you can tell them all about it!

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But when you spend that much you want it to be a once in a lifetime experience  
And you can tell from her pictures  

number one will press the ignore button from now on  so that way we will not be able to read his crap