It positively takes two to tango which means STD testing is without a doubt a two way street.
Care to comment on the STD testing and treatment facility issue?
Julie we are all waiting for the results f your testing on the two prior threads about a possible problem at your place.
Silence is construed as a possible admission of guilt in this case.
Please respond to the masses.
It is a fact that more than half of the girls in this industry are positive for herpes. It comes with the nature of the business. When you have many partners it increases your chances. And trust me girls have many partners.
I feel if you take 10 girls from every agency and test them.. You would all be shocked.. you'd stay home with the wifes...
We at world class do do an initial screening for security back ground and health. But its impossable to get girls to go monthly.
Juilies is reputableand has given a lot of you great service at fair prices. If you stay home you have a guarentee to stay clear..
yes this is a risk. But EVERY agency has girls who have this ... I know for a fact many girls i interview never show up to our Doctor for their screening appointments. What does this tell you.???
I know i dont call them back unless they go. Then a few weeks later they are on other agencies sites.. Guess you are all sharp enoungh to figure this out.
Latley wake up call to all .. the more un covered the service the higher the cvhances the girl already has this and other problems..
I once owned an operated an agency with anywhere from 10-30 girls on the roster at any time it is nearly impossible to keep track as well as pay for std testing. Just like you said it can be done initially when a girl starts and that might weed out a few girls. As soon as a girl has a sexual encounter the test is null and void. It takes 1-2 weeks to get results and during that time a person is supposed to remain abstinant. Then you retest in another 3 months if that one is also negative there is a good chance your negative. The thing is you must remain abstinant during the ENTIRE time to get accurate and correct test results. Any girl who's livelyhood depends upon being sexually active is not going to abide by this. I think Juli handled the situation well when she took the girl off the schedule and got everyone of the girls in the house tested (providing this was in fact done) Making a statement telling clients that the girls are all tested and safe provides a false sense of security that I feel is irresponsible. It almost sounds like you can have bbfs and not have to worry about anything, I mean the test results are even there to be seen if you wish. Thing is the test results are not accurate as soon as a girl has sex. Not to mention the window period of up to 30 days for antibodies to even show up. The only safe sex is no sex. There are different risk factors for different types of sex. You have to find what risks you as a person can reasonably live with. Just keep in mind this is a high risk activity if your not taking precautions and sometimes when you play with fire you do get burnt!
Just my 2 cents
I agree that making a statement telling clients that the girls are all tested and safe provides a false sense of security and is irresponsible if the girls aren't really being tested. I would hope they are being tested.
I can't help but feel that you are trying to capitalize
on a (potentially) unfortunate situation concerning
the "Julie's" agency.
I went to Julie's last year, and on only one occasion. The
management as well as the girls were very frendly and
accomodating, but the willingness to "provide extras"
kind of scared me, though I did enjoy it while it was
happening. The place wasn't for me, but I do know that
the vast majority of guys on this site love the place.
While I am not sure of the statistics you quote, I will admit
that prostitution, from both the provider and client side,
is a risky business health wise. I do, however, question the
50% infection rate. Are you trying to say that the girls catch
STD's from the clients, or are you saying that they have so
many different boyfriends that they catch the STD's in their
"civilian" life? I have a hard time believing that the clients
infect the girls to this extent due to the fact that condoms
are almost always the rule (Julie's not withstanding). If the
50% is accurate, then maybe the girls should stop spending so
much time with men they meet in clubs at 4AM (dope dealers,
rockers, rappers, and whatever other kind sleaze frequent
these establishments during the after hours), and once again,
I am not so certain about the 50%.
Finally, you state that in order to be totally safe, we
(us tricks) should stay home with our wives to be totally safe.
There is only one problem with that theory, some of us (myself
included) do not have wives or girlfriends, and prostitution
is our only outlet for sex. Guys like me are not viewed by
"regular" women as potential sex partners and our only choice is
to pay for it. We pay your bills, so please don't wave your
finger at us.
I'm a bit dumbfounded by some of the misinformation and finger pointing going on. I think some of the gentlemen here are in denial about the risks involved in hobbying. If you look at some of the TER polls they give a little insight into some significant behavior. Out of those who responded to individual surveys:
43% have indulged in BBFS
89% prefer BBBJ
42% enjoyed DATY
76% have DFK'd
63% must have GFE
Not surprisingly:
43% have gotten an STD
50% have never even had an STD test
What's even more suprising is that in a seperate study 49% were married. So please don't point the finger at the ladies. Providers only provide services you yourself request and if you aren't being responsible with your genitalia/bodily fluids than you're just as dangerous to us as you perceive we are to you.
Also, you don't have to have a visible blister to pass herpes to a partner which can be transmitted via ANY skin to skin contact, not just oral. In New York alone, cases of oral syphillis went up by 250% in 2003. Yeast infections can be passed, as well as clamydia.
I do think Julie is handling this the best way she can, but how many of you would actually return to her establishment if her ladies weren't so accomodating? Let's be realistic, Providers and Hobbyist have a symbiotic relationship with one another.
It positively takes two to tango which means STD testing is without a doubt a two way street.
Care to comment on the STD testing and treatment facility issue?
If ladies have a OB/Gyn they're accustom to regular exams that test for most STD's, If you don't have insurance call Planned Parenthood or the Department of Health Services in your area. It's really not that hard to find a facility for ladies to get tested. As far as the gentlemen are concerned, I would guess that most of you have health insurance. Don't be ashamed to ask your doctor for the neccessary STD tests. I'm sure he's seen or heard worse in medical school.
finaly someone who makes sense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Every act has risks all must choose what they do.
THERE CAN BE NO JUDGMENT BY ANYONE.
we all know the risks it's up to you to decide
While you absolutely made sure that I was wearing a condom before you performed oral sex on me on the two occasions that I saw you--and my TER Reviews will verify how wonderful those two sessions were--my recollection of your attitude towards DATY are a little different than your admonitions. I recollect that you were getting excited while performing oral sex on me and you placed your sex over my face and then literally grabbed me by the ears to direct me in how to pleasure you to your satisfaction. In the spirit of true honestly, alas, my recollection was that I was a severe disappointment to you. So--while you insist on a condom for all your clients--do you insist on a dental dam for yourself during oral sex?
Listen whitelightening (who has no reviews) I just came from Julie and ALL the GIRLS including LOLA are clean. They are clean from any STD's. So don't put up a thread that has "Silence is construed as a possible admission of guilt in this case." in the text since tests like these don't take overnight. Now for this dude that put up threads that he caught it from Julie's you should read that he according to one of the threads "sees one provider a month" was BS since he has 9 reviews from Sept to Jan. To accuse someone gave him std especially since this dude from the amount of reviews it is obvious he sees more than one provider per month. Either he was not telling to truth or he was not sure who gave it to him and picked the person he thought might have gave it to him without proof.
How could you say such a thing? Silence is an admission of guilt what a thing to say. Tests results take at least one week and by the way I and many others are aware that this is just an attack ,not real at all. The guy had 9 reviews in 3 months claiming he saw only one provider every month and OH Yea got tested every month, do the math yourself it just does not add up. Lola does not have any herpes and I think most know and see through what is really going on. Lola has two latest tests results and although she is very hurt and her business will be hurt as well she is going to come back. All the ladies have and are still getting their tests and they are all in excellent health. Prostitutes are the best people as far as taking care of their bodies ,this is how they live. Please stop trying to attack the providers in the worst way possible, their health and dignity. We have been here for many years and we take very good care of our bodies and know how to do so.