Guys, It's time to relax and smell the coffee....Remember we are in this fairy tale land of the TER board where a measley $50. gets you the oportunity to pretty much post what you want annonymously for three whole months....that being said, Singleton's commandments and my charter comments posted below need to be applied. Fatty can come back here tommorow as Skinny and we will never know.The bottom line is that hobbyists should do their homework on potential providers and providers should maintain their own security and screening detail that works for them.NONREVIEWERS need to be handled undoubtedbly with scepticism. There is a poster just below, HATBOX, who does not post reviews, who said that seeing well reviewed providers is as safe as its ever been and that maybe paranoia has set in. This may be true but its always good to reaffirm hobbyist "safe play" criteria such as in the form of the S man's commandments. I will also say that if all hobbyists were like Hatbox there would be no reviews to peruse and thus this thread is effectively, DEAD IN THE WATER.Hatbox and others like him are unfairly resting on our laurels. So the truth of the matter is that him, Fatty and others whom do not review really have nothing to offer of true substance and their postings on this thread will always be suspect...as they should. In closing, remember, the educated hobbyist is a providers best customer.

 



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"So the truth of the matter is that this person, Fatty and others whom do not review really have nothing to offer of true substance and their postings on this thread will always be suspect..."


Nothing to offer?

I don't post reviews...but I pay money to be a member. That gives me just as much a right to be here as anyone else.

to the REVIEW DATABASE!  which is the "raison d'etre" of TER. in other words, the very *reason* this Erotic __REVIEW__ site exists. without the review database TER would be just like hundreds of inane singles/erotic/sex chat boards that innundate the internet. why do you think TER bothers to legally appropriate, copyright and protect their ownership of the database?

your membership fee entitles you to participate on the boards (by all means) ... AND (inequitably enough!) to peruse that "precious" database of reviews and reap the benefit of the depository of knowledge and experience of 100s of dedicated REVIEWERS who PAID dearly out of their own pockets to acquire and archive that information for YOUR eventual benefit.

is it so egregious to state the obvious fact that you do not contribute ANYTHING to that database? is there something we've all missed here? are we that way off base?

no one is trying to take your non-reviewing membership privileges away. that would be unfair and undemocratic and IN FACT against those very "commandments" we just fleshed out (partly in jest, but nevertheless in some earnest)

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PLEASE, TAKE NOTE:

those of you who, for whatever reason (it doesn't matter), choose to not contribute reviews or hide behind aliases (shaky ones since not all aliases are exactly unknown to the regulars) can not expect us to behave any other way than that we have humbly tried to outline, however imperfectly.  that first silly commandment ("first and foremost, be civil!") applies to YOU. that's how you should be treated and i'll be the first to stomp the guts out of whoever gives you unnecessary grief. so just CHILL!  no body is coming after you with a sub-machinegun!

btw, am i the only one who noticed the irony of "civility" being the over-riding commandment on the NEW YAWK board, of all boards?  LOL

I agree. I have what I consider valid reasons for not submitting reviews. The most important is mileage varies so greatly that anything I say could misleading others. But that doesn't mean people like myself don't see providers and have meaningful contributions to make to this board. Opinions don't become more credible because reviews have been posted. Because "we" are suspect and get few responses to our posts, I also rarely post here.

Yankee Mike...you sure your not a red sox fan...lol(no offense Singleton)....you posted my comments completely out of context.
..."the whole is better than one(to hell with sum) of its parts"....lol

"I will also say that if all hobbyists were like Hatbox there would be no reviews to peruse and thus this thread is effectively, DEAD IN THE WATER.Hatbox and others like him are unfairly resting on our laurels. So the truth of the matter is that him, Fatty and others whom do not review really have nothing to offer of true substance and their postings on this thread will always be suspect...as they should. In closing, remember, the educated hobbyist is a providers best customer."

"mileage varies" is not an excuse. if i see ten reviews that range from 5-10, i can figure out that "mileage varies". so your review DOES count.

If you visited a provider that turned out to provide a god awful experience, or worse, was a rip-off, would you then post a review so as to warn off your TER "neighbors"?

To me, this is the essence of our community.  We all strive to connect with the highest quality of provider around, but we also rely on those reviews that are highly negative.  I'm lucky to have the financial means to absorb a $500 or so blow (I generally book 2 hours or more) to my wallet if a provider is bad.  But not all of us, unfortunately, have that ability.  And even though I can absorb it, it still pisses me off to High Holy Hell.

If a provider has lots and lots of 8s, 9s, and 10s in their profile, and you don't feel like posting another one, that's almost OK IMHO.  But, if a provider, in your opinion, deserves a 1, 2, 3, or 4, do you have any sense of how that review might help our little "community"?  Or do you care?

This is not a slam to anyone,  I'm just curious how the non-reviewers feel about this kind of circumstance.  

All comments will be received without prejudice, malice, or any slamming by me.  I promise.

F.

I am sure you will be surprised to learn that I completely agree with you!
You guys who write the reviews make this place useful and people like myself are paying a fee for the privilege of using this info. But I agree that despite the $ we pay we should not get the respect or receive full answers to our questions

What I was referring to was the paranoia of LE that seems to be becoming a concern and I really don't know what that is based on

Btw the reason I don't post reviews is because my hobby career so far consists of 1) seeing one provider numerous times that does not want a review written 2) seeing a provider in Vegas with my wife which I don't feel comfortable writing about since it involves another person


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the best way to get back at a bad provider is to submit a negative review. the best way to make sure a good one stays would be to provide a positive review.

Fortitude, the answer to your question, as far as I'm concerned , is YES.  If I were to see a provider and the experience proved awful, I would DEFINITELY write a review for PRECISELY the reason you mention - to warn others.  Luckily, this never happened to me, and I have chosen to not write reviews for other reasons.  Indeed, the two ladies that I have seen (one in the past and one I still see regularly) that are CURRENTLY ON THE INTERNET (I don't want any confusion here) both have received very high ratings, and justly so.  In fact, that's ONE of the number of reasons that I haven't written any reviews!  But I think you have brought up an important point, and I, for one, would certainly join the review-writing fray should I encounter a shitty provider.

I will echo Villageguy's response.

If I had a provider that rated anything below a 5, I would definitely post it, for the reasons you mentioned.

In a roundabout way, this happened once with a provider I didn't like. But she had no prior reviews here on TER, so all I did was negatively respond to a post on a thread about her when the hobbyist asked if anyone had ever seen her.

But there's a "better-than-thou" attitude amongst some of the people who leave reviews versus the people who pay to READ the reviews. That's the part I don't like.

Nothing I post should be viewed as "suspect".

I personally have no issue with a guy who pays his fees and lurks to find good providers and good information.  But I do object if he saw a provider, was less than satisfied, and held that information to himself.  That's why I asked the question. Although you did give that guy a heads-up about that provider, you did fail to warn off the community as a whole.  A posted review would have done just that, and perhaps prevented someone else from "taking one for the team".  

Believe or not, there are guys out there that just look at reviews and do not come to the Discussion Groups at all, or very infrequently.  They're the ones that weren't warned.  But they ARE part of the community, and the ones I know like that do post reviews, so their contributions are obvious.

I live in a town on Long Island, and each of my neighbors has a different take on his/her civic duty.  Some vote in School Board elections, some don't.  Some are active in library drives, others aren't.  You know what I mean.  I kind of draw a parallel here.  The non-reviewer can still be a good "member" of this community if he or she contributes in some way to the community, and that includes paying for membership, which allows TER to afford to give reviewers extra membership days for their contributions.  

But the person that may withold information as outlined above, or uses this board to slam, incite unnecessary controversy, or spread lies and disinformation are not good neighbors, and IMHO rightfully held suspect.

F.