I could understand tipping if the girl didn't look as good as her pic or you just weren't feeling her but you can't reward out and out fraud. Thanks for the heads up.
I called the number listed on TER, 212-207-8552, and spoke to the phone girl, who gave me a reasonable level of screening. After discussing the price, which was much higher than what TER had quoted, and she told me the Upper East Side location. I arrived on time and called for the address, and after another set of screening questions, including what I looked like, and what I did for a living, I went up to the apartment. The provider met me at the door looked, but nothing like the photos in the linked add from TER on Manhatten Backpage
I said she looked nothing like the woman in the photos, and was well beyond the 21 year old promised, but she said "no, that is me, I just have my clothes on. There was another woman in the room, with dark hair, who seemed to the the person I talked to on the phone. I was led into another room, and sat down, and after a minute of thinking about it I decided to leave. I should have done when she first opened the door. I got up, and told the 2 woman that I had decided not to stay. I should mention that about 2 minutes had transpired, with no disrobing, or anything happening. When I said I was leaving, the dark haired woman became very aggressive and said that I had to tip, and that I couldn't just come up, check out Marcie, and leave. I said that she looked nothing like the woman in the ad pictures, and since nothing had gone on, I was just going to leave. I was being nice--the woman offered to me was 10 to 15 years older than promised, 30 pounds heavier, and frankly rather homely. I'm not super picky, but this crossed over even my personal line.
At this point the scene got threatening, and even dangerous. The dark haired woman said "call Damian, and tell him what this guy is wearing." She didn't attack me, but I felt in serious danger and wanted to get out. The door had been double locked in a way that I couldn't immediately open, so I fiddled with the locks for a minute or 2 before I could get it open. I am no pussy--I'm a big guy, and I feel I can take care of myself, but this felt really bad. I had a vision of some goon with a knife coming up behind me. Once I got out, I walked away as quickly as I could, watching behind me for 5 or 6 blocks to make sure I wasn't followed.
This is a dilemma--does a girl deserve a "tip" even if she has been completely mis-represented herself The review I read on TER is clearly a fake, but in retrospect giving her a 20 to avoid the threatening situation might have been in order. On the other hand, this felt like a criminal enterprise, with a very bad outcome, so getting out of there as quick as possible was in order. I would HIGHLY recommend that TER readers avoid it at all costs.
I have been an erotic adventurer for a number of years, and I can say this is the first time I have felt in danger. Most of the girls are honest, and even if they are not beauty queens, I can enjoy an encounter with lots of different woman, of different ages, ethic backgrounds and "looks". In fact, as an older guy, a 21 year old woman is not what I am usually looking for. A woman with some experience has generally offered the best sessions for me, so I am not an ageist. However, it is nice when the woman doesn't out and out lie about their appearance, and let you know what you are getting in for.
Live and learn!
I wanted to warn other TER readers about an experience I had in mid September with a New York provider. I read a review for a provider named Macie, and although it was a single review, it was extremely positive.
I called the number listed on TER, 212-207-8552, and spoke to the phone girl, who gave me a reasonable level of screening. After discussing the price, which was much higher than what TER had quoted, and she told me the Upper East Side location. I arrived on time and called for the address, and after another set of screening questions, including what I looked like, and what I did for a living, I went up to the apartment. The provider met me at the door looked, but nothing like the photos in the linked add from TER on Manhatten Backpage
I said she looked nothing like the woman in the photos, and was well beyond the 21 year old promised, but she said "no, that is me, I just have my clothes on. There was another woman in the room, with dark hair, who seemed to the the person I talked to on the phone. I was led into another room, and sat down, and after a minute of thinking about it I decided to leave. I should have done when she first opened the door. I got up, and told the 2 woman that I had decided not to stay. I should mention that about 2 minutes had transpired, with no disrobing, or anything happening. When I said I was leaving, the dark haired woman became very aggressive and said that I had to tip, and that I couldn't just come up, check out Marcie, and leave. I said that she looked nothing like the woman in the ad pictures, and since nothing had gone on, I was just going to leave. I was being nice--the woman offered to me was 10 to 15 years older than promised, 30 pounds heavier, and frankly rather homely. I'm not super picky, but this crossed over even my personal line.
At this point the scene got threatening, and even dangerous. The dark haired woman said "call Damian, and tell him what this guy is wearing." She didn't attack me, but I felt in serious danger and wanted to get out. The door had been double locked in a way that I couldn't immediately open, so I fiddled with the locks for a minute or 2 before I could get it open. I am no pussy--I'm a big guy, and I feel I can take care of myself, but this felt really bad. I had a vision of some goon with a knife coming up behind me. Once I got out, I walked away as quickly as I could, watching behind me for 5 or 6 blocks to make sure I wasn't followed.
This is a dilemma--does a girl deserve a "tip" even if she has been completely mis-represented herself The review I read on TER is clearly a fake, but in retrospect giving her a 20 to avoid the threatening situation might have been in order. On the other hand, this felt like a criminal enterprise, with a very bad outcome, so getting out of there as quick as possible was in order. I would HIGHLY recommend that TER readers avoid it at all costs.
I have been an erotic adventurer for a number of years, and I can say this is the first time I have felt in danger. Most of the girls are honest, and even if they are not beauty queens, I can enjoy an encounter with lots of different woman, of different ages, ethic backgrounds and "looks". In fact, as an older guy, a 21 year old woman is not what I am usually looking for. A woman with some experience has generally offered the best sessions for me, so I am not an ageist. However, it is nice when the woman doesn't out and out lie about their appearance, and let you know what you are getting in for.
Live and learn!
Double locked doors & she was calling her pimp? Scary shit. Thnks for letting us know.
If the girl was a bait & switch (and she clearly was) -you owe her zip, zero. I avoid girls with names that sound like that department store that has a Thanksgiving parade.
How about Macy Gray?
Ladies who engage in that trashy behavior count on gents keeping quiet because they have some personal info on you. You did the right thing by leaving. And, you don't owe any cancellation fee since the lady you scheduled time with never appeared. BTW Don't avoid girls named Macy. LoL Anyway, lesson learned. Always think with the bigger head.
stop seeing these 2bill providers and hope to see a 6bill girl open the door.
With all due respect to your hobbying choices, I looked at your reviews and you're making the same mistakes. Hey, no offense meant ... been there, done that.
If you've been fooled once you gotta step up your game a little. Don't expect to find a Mercedes in the Prius for sale ads!
You did the right thing. I'm glad it turned out ok for you. thnx again for the advanced warning. Being not a small guy myself, when face with a potential BAD situation, it still gets you uneasy. Excellent job on letting us know. That is what these boards help us do....stay away from situations like this. Take care and hope to meet you at a M&G sometime to thank you personally.
I could understand tipping if the girl didn't look as good as her pic or you just weren't feeling her but you can't reward out and out fraud. Thanks for the heads up.
I called the number listed on TER, 212-207-8552, and spoke to the phone girl, who gave me a reasonable level of screening. After discussing the price, which was much higher than what TER had quoted, and she told me the Upper East Side location. I arrived on time and called for the address, and after another set of screening questions, including what I looked like, and what I did for a living, I went up to the apartment. The provider met me at the door looked, but nothing like the photos in the linked add from TER on Manhatten Backpage
I said she looked nothing like the woman in the photos, and was well beyond the 21 year old promised, but she said "no, that is me, I just have my clothes on. There was another woman in the room, with dark hair, who seemed to the the person I talked to on the phone. I was led into another room, and sat down, and after a minute of thinking about it I decided to leave. I should have done when she first opened the door. I got up, and told the 2 woman that I had decided not to stay. I should mention that about 2 minutes had transpired, with no disrobing, or anything happening. When I said I was leaving, the dark haired woman became very aggressive and said that I had to tip, and that I couldn't just come up, check out Marcie, and leave. I said that she looked nothing like the woman in the ad pictures, and since nothing had gone on, I was just going to leave. I was being nice--the woman offered to me was 10 to 15 years older than promised, 30 pounds heavier, and frankly rather homely. I'm not super picky, but this crossed over even my personal line.
At this point the scene got threatening, and even dangerous. The dark haired woman said "call Damian, and tell him what this guy is wearing." She didn't attack me, but I felt in serious danger and wanted to get out. The door had been double locked in a way that I couldn't immediately open, so I fiddled with the locks for a minute or 2 before I could get it open. I am no pussy--I'm a big guy, and I feel I can take care of myself, but this felt really bad. I had a vision of some goon with a knife coming up behind me. Once I got out, I walked away as quickly as I could, watching behind me for 5 or 6 blocks to make sure I wasn't followed.
This is a dilemma--does a girl deserve a "tip" even if she has been completely mis-represented herself The review I read on TER is clearly a fake, but in retrospect giving her a 20 to avoid the threatening situation might have been in order. On the other hand, this felt like a criminal enterprise, with a very bad outcome, so getting out of there as quick as possible was in order. I would HIGHLY recommend that TER readers avoid it at all costs.
I have been an erotic adventurer for a number of years, and I can say this is the first time I have felt in danger. Most of the girls are honest, and even if they are not beauty queens, I can enjoy an encounter with lots of different woman, of different ages, ethic backgrounds and "looks". In fact, as an older guy, a 21 year old woman is not what I am usually looking for. A woman with some experience has generally offered the best sessions for me, so I am not an ageist. However, it is nice when the woman doesn't out and out lie about their appearance, and let you know what you are getting in for.
Live and learn!
I called the number listed on TER, 212-207-8552, and spoke to the phone girl, who gave me a reasonable level of screening. After discussing the price, which was much higher than what TER had quoted, and she told me the Upper East Side location. I arrived on time and called for the address, and after another set of screening questions, including what I looked like, and what I did for a living, I went up to the apartment. The provider met me at the door looked, but nothing like the photos in the linked add from TER on Manhatten Backpage
I said she looked nothing like the woman in the photos, and was well beyond the 21 year old promised, but she said "no, that is me, I just have my clothes on. There was another woman in the room, with dark hair, who seemed to the the person I talked to on the phone. I was led into another room, and sat down, and after a minute of thinking about it I decided to leave. I should have done when she first opened the door. I got up, and told the 2 woman that I had decided not to stay. I should mention that about 2 minutes had transpired, with no disrobing, or anything happening. When I said I was leaving, the dark haired woman became very aggressive and said that I had to tip, and that I couldn't just come up, check out Marcie, and leave. I said that she looked nothing like the woman in the ad pictures, and since nothing had gone on, I was just going to leave. I was being nice--the woman offered to me was 10 to 15 years older than promised, 30 pounds heavier, and frankly rather homely. I'm not super picky, but this crossed over even my personal line.
At this point the scene got threatening, and even dangerous. The dark haired woman said "call Damian, and tell him what this guy is wearing." She didn't attack me, but I felt in serious danger and wanted to get out. The door had been double locked in a way that I couldn't immediately open, so I fiddled with the locks for a minute or 2 before I could get it open. I am no pussy--I'm a big guy, and I feel I can take care of myself, but this felt really bad. I had a vision of some goon with a knife coming up behind me. Once I got out, I walked away as quickly as I could, watching behind me for 5 or 6 blocks to make sure I wasn't followed.
This is a dilemma--does a girl deserve a "tip" even if she has been completely mis-represented herself The review I read on TER is clearly a fake, but in retrospect giving her a 20 to avoid the threatening situation might have been in order. On the other hand, this felt like a criminal enterprise, with a very bad outcome, so getting out of there as quick as possible was in order. I would HIGHLY recommend that TER readers avoid it at all costs.
I have been an erotic adventurer for a number of years, and I can say this is the first time I have felt in danger. Most of the girls are honest, and even if they are not beauty queens, I can enjoy an encounter with lots of different woman, of different ages, ethic backgrounds and "looks". In fact, as an older guy, a 21 year old woman is not what I am usually looking for. A woman with some experience has generally offered the best sessions for me, so I am not an ageist. However, it is nice when the woman doesn't out and out lie about their appearance, and let you know what you are getting in for.
Live and learn!