Hello I am fairly new on here but I've at least gotten enough advice to know that a lot of companions require deposits. I really do try to be reasonable and understanding in terms of booking and screening, but there is not point in booking anything in terms of incalls when I can't cover a hotel room and even if I had a nice apartment worth hosting in, I would still prefer hotel rooms for incalls. After a few last-minute cancellations from ppl unwilling to respect a cancellation fee I simply refuse to put out-of-pocket money into booking rooms. I usually try to get advice from other companions before trying to enforce new booking requirements, and have been told they almost always require a deposit . I am at a loss when I get nothing but emails for incalls yet not one potential client can send me 200 for a deposit? It's not even an extra cost it's considered part of the donation and the remainder is due at the meet.  

There's a loooooong history of providers asking for deposits, getting them and then ghosting the client, who then has no recourse to get his money back. It is this kind of abuse that has made deposits a dirty word for many of us.

Ditto what inicky says. I don't know any male on this site who has not been shafted by someone who demanded a deposit and then disappeared. When I first started, I fell for it more than once and resolved not to fall for it again. I'm sure your're sincere, Winter, and I long to rendezvous with you but other women have spoiled it for you and  I'm not going to pay $200 in advance. Once bitten, twice shy.  xxx

Well I personally have no history of doing so and a few references that would back me up on that. It would be unreasonable for me to keep booking rooms and running my budget dry for clients who can call off the last minute and don't take in the factor that I am very dependent on this income. These sites do exist so you can write reviews and properly out those who take advantage of you. No offense but if $200 is a massive loss to you maybe you should think more about the risks of hiring companions. If I ask for clients to pay for the room, I come off cheap, if I ask for a deposit you all get scared away. I feel like this attitude is actually gonna put a lot of well-meaning escorts who are starting out in this profession out of work which is gonna suck in the long run when only super experienced escorts who charge insane rates are the only people available to book off this site. I just don't see the long-run benefit of all-in-all avoiding deposits, you could be missing out on a really great companion.

Also if you don't want to publicly respond please email me [email protected] I don't see messages on here!

But it's also a simple fact that some girls make a habit out of it. This is part of the tension that exists in this business. You can complain about it but that won't change anything. And, no, $200 is not a massive loss for me. I am just not tolerant of being played.
And you do have other options. For example, a cancellation fee. If the guy cancels and doesn't pay the fee he goes on your DNS List. Also do your homework by checking with girls you know about the guy's history. There are also sites that provide such info. So there are lots of ways for you to avoid being taken advantage of that don't require a deposit.

I recently paid a deposit for the first time.  A well-reviewed, well-respected provider, 10/10's across the board, active on these forums.  So I figured the risk was low.  After having to jump through a few hoops to get her a gift card from a site she hadn't been blacklisted from, I sent a deposit (despite it being mentioned nowhere on her bookkng site).  At which point, of course, I was immediately ghosted.

Hello everyone! I am the provider he is talking about. Don't be coy babe. I did not ghost you. I offered to give you back the gift card. You were aggressive and rude, I got very bad vibes from you...and now I am glad I avoided you. I have returned gift cards to people if the date hasn't worked out for any reason. If you did not receive yours...maybe try emailing me.  

Babe, you def need to ask for a gift up front. The gentlemen who you want to spend your time with, will be respectful and understanding. The others, who are not interested in your value, are best avoided anyway. They are the ones most likely to be trouble down the road. I've been lucky to avoid a few with my deposit policy. I didn't implement it until I was learned the hard way.

Also, I have literally never been blacklisted b a site, but please please please tell me how one gets blacklisted from a site? hahahahahhahahaha I am dead. You just really said that and didn't think anyone would notice??

Oh for the love of God.  True, you are the provider I am talking about, a fact I was perfectly happy you omit.  But there you go.  And yes, to your credit, you offered to return the deposit.  And I told you to keep it as a personal lesson to myself to never pay a deposit again.  Because, as has been said here, $200 means nothing to me.  Getting played for a fool means quite a lot.  You ghosted me TWICE after setting up specific times for dates.  To what ends of the earth should I go?

As some would say, the “E” in GFE translates to and encapsulates a bespoke luxurious high-end Experience. Many may already be aware that access to high-end luxuries such as certain michelin star restaurants, custom tailored suits, and certain types of investments require you to either leave a credit card on file (to reserve your time) or a deposit to confirm you are serious about moving forward. As such, it should CUM as no surprise that this part of our lives would be any different. Plus, it’s generally only a couple of hundred bucks. No one is getting rich off of this amount of money. For me, when I started years ago, it initially was a shock, but as I forged forward it it became more common among ladies I’ve met. It seems like a personal decision but I can tell you that if we really want to meet you, we would not  blink an eye if a deposit was required. Best of luck. xoxo Aces.

Lolol you are like a grave digger! You just keep going and going! I wonder how it will feel to have blacklisted yourself within our community so publicly?

I adore you!! Ugh!! I’m so hot for you right now!! Thank you for just getting it. You’re a superstar! (Further appreciation will be shown in future heehee!

I abhor litigating this in a public forum, but here we are.  We don't need to resort to "he said, she said" back-and-forth.  I can easily post screenshots of our entire interaction.  A few redactions, and I can have them up in ten minutes.  Just say the word.  I would recommend you go back and re-read them before you decide, for the sake of your business.

And apologies for not realizing how UTR you are, what with your public website, numerous review and incessant "pick me" posting here.

Don't post on here much, mainly lurk. Been seeing SWers for 15 years. Some don't require deposits and some do. Of the ones that do require deposits I've never been scammed or lost any money. I had a medical emergency come up at the beginning of COVID and I had to cancel my appointment with a provider. We were going to have a long date and the deposit was a considerable amount. Needless to say she was happy to refund the deposit, I told her to keep a percentage for herself because she had to go through screening process, emails, etc. There's also disproportionate of "anti deposits" users on here versus a platform like twitter. So asking this question in a place where most of the users are either A) Cheap or B) Assholes won't get the honest answer you're looking for.

Boy, bye!

Perfect response. Thank you!
I’m glad you’re ok!

I'm still waiting on your permission to post the screenshots of our conversations.  I guess I won't hold my breath...

I know many ladies who require deposits for any appt even an hr. Some advertise here,Twitter,tryst,P411,and other sites.
I ask for a deposit for Overnights and FMTY dates only at this time however I do have a cancellation fee policy.
Majority of gents who need to cancel and it is close to appt date do honor my cancellation policy. But there are some who will refuse to pay a cancellation fee.
When a provider tours or in her homebase has to secure a hotel for incall and guys cancel that can get very costly especially if touring since travel and hotel has went up substantially.

I got scammed a few times early on but have been better since finding TER 6 or 7 years ago.  I did notice a new very highly rated provider in nyc with a few 10/10 reviews just had 2 reviews posted that she ghosted client after she got deposit/gift card.  This is the example that we need to figure out how to spot and avoid.  New, amazing reviews and then these 2 reviews.  I wouldnt be happy either if it happened to me.  Now these guys will be hesitant to give future deposit to someone and u can understand why.  Some great ladies have commented here...one who ive seen....hey scarlett .  Would love to hear from them how to handle this type of situation.

As a provider who never took deposits u til last month, it's SO worth it. Especially if you're like me and book a hotel room as opposed to having your own incall. I had 3 last minute cancelations in the span of 2 weeks and I realized how much of my time was being wasted with the cancellations.  

Being a P411 member I wouldn't have a problem giving anyone a deposit.  The owners at P411 are there to protect both parties!  

I do require deposits now, when I am traveling to avoid being left in the negative by gents who really don't respect my time and efforts.
If I am home, in Houston, I do not require a deposit if the gentleman is booking through P411, or the date is only an hour.
But I do have my own private location, so I am able to save more by not having hotel fees.

Deposits are a real dirty word and I know make it a policy not even bother seeing a provider if she requires a deposit.  There is a lot bait and switch.  This year alone i am out almost 1.5K from providers ghosting me after deposits.  I encourage all of my fellow hobbyists not to see any provider requiring deposits no matter how good they look.  

You should check out humaniplex. It is not as burdensome as p411 and a great resource for independents that host in hotels.

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With all due respect, when you preface a comment with "No Offense" it tends to be offensive. Yes, $200 is not a lot of money, but it is still money. No one wants to pay $20, $200 or $2000 for something they do not receive. And yes the irony of my preface is intentional and so many providers never require a deposit that clients can choose. I hear you and your need to get deposits, hopefully you hear and get why some choose not to pay. I am not concerned about getting ripped off - scams are pretty easy to ferret out, it is just so infrequently asked I almost do not see the point. If the paradigm shifts I will gladly pay a deposit, but until then there is no need.

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Gift card is a major warning sign of a scam. It is quite easy to ferret out the gift card scammers with a bit of common sense and research. Your situation seems unique. Not sure I would call what happened to you a scam - I read your entire thread. My experience is that even the most highly rated providers are somewhat jaded. Can you blame them with what they deal with. I had one provider who I was trying to book an appointment who became openly hostile in text messages when I asked the day before to change my time to an earlier appt. I almost cancelled but she was highly reviewed. She accommodated my request -  and she was heavenly, kind, accommodating and it was a great experience. Seen her several times since. I chalked it up to her having to deal with too many last minute request and I caught her at a bad time. I do not judge these ladies as I go though the screening and booking process. That part is strictly business.

The reality is this is not a legal business and there is little recourse if either side of the transaction is ripped off. There are good and bad on both sides of the equation (I would say more bad on the client side than the provider cuz men are well - men). The ladies that pour shade on men that do not pay deposits miss the point that there are scammers out there. The men who pour shade on the women who require deposit miss the point that there are jerks out there.

Hey Hazel

Buyer beware

No recourse to recoup sums it up well - I think that is why so many people are hesitant to give deposits. I don't because so many do not require. Even you do not require for visits at your homebase. I think it is east to ferret out a scammer with a bit of research and a few calls/text - they tend to go after low hanging fruit. You ladies provider a great service that should be legal thus eliminating the no recourse to recoup.

Never ever pay a deposit.

but you're under an alias so....who really cares.

That is correct, I don't require deposits when I'm home, in Houston, because I'm not out of any costs if the gent doesn't keep his date with me. (Just aggravation that my time has been wasted)

I wouldn't call it a scam either, and never did.  But that's the point.  It doesn't matter if it's a scam, or the provider is hung over, or bailing her boyfriend out of jail, got a better offer, or just forgot -- the result is the same.  I certainly appreciate that providers are jaded, and have a lot on their plate.  But this wasn't a $50 blow-and-go or even a $400 AMP; this was supposedly one of the top experiences with one of the most highly respected women in NYC.  I don't think it's too much to expect at least a modicum of professionalism and care when dealing with bookings and deposits.