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KOPLB 4314 reads
posted
1 / 21

I posted this question on another board in the city in which it happened, but I wanted to get the feedback from NYers as well.  This happened to me in a city in which public transportation is basically non-existent, so keep that in mind.
 
First of all, I am not going to mention the provider's name in this posting because I don't want to have a negative impact on her abililty to attract clients. And I am also using an alias for obvious reasons, so there is no negative impact on me.

I went to go see a provider based upon her photos.  (She has no reviews.)  When I got there, she looked very, very different from the photos; in fact, she admitted that the photos were taken about 7 years earlier.  She was a far cry from how she appeared in the photos.

I explained to her that I didn't want to go through with the appointment and was honest about the reason.  That's when she told me that the photos were about 7 years old.   We spent about 10 or 15 minutes chatting, she was very gracious and accepting of my decision and I left.

I was genuinely excited about seeing this girl, but was very disappointed when the woman opening the door looked so very different.  It was clear to me it was the same woman, but not resembling her photos at all.  It took a lot of willpower not to go through with the session anyway, being that in the past the little head controls the big head, and the atmosphere of the incall location was very seductive.  But my good sense managed to prevail.

I called the booker to explain what had happened and was subsequently "chewed out" by her.  She admonished me for not giving her a tip for not keeping the appointment.  I was told that her time is valuable, yadda yadda yadda.

What some of these providers and bookers refuse to acknowledge is that our time is valuable as well.  I drove across town in Friday evening traffic to see this woman.  I was misled by very dated photographs.  As I said, she acknowledged that the photos were at least 7 years old.  

Why do the providers and bookers always see this as a one-way street? Isn't my time valuable?  Shouldn't I have been "tipped" for the gas money that I spent to travel across town and to endure horrific Friday evening traffic.  None of this would have happened if there had been 100% honesty in the first place and the photos were a true representation.  A tip might have been proper if there wasn't a face in the photos and it was just my own perception.  But these photographs showed her face and I feel I was misled and that both of us have to bear the burden of the situation.  Providers (or their "handlers") cannot post nearly decade old photos and then want to chop off our nuts if we are dissatisfied when we arrive at the location.

At least I called the booker and attempted to explain why I did not go through with the appointment, and I was polite and apologetic.  Instead I was met with a barrage of insults and nastiness of which I don't feel I was deserving.  On top of that, I was told I was inconsiderate for not leaving a tip.  

Am I obligated to leave a tip because I was misled by very old photos?  Do I deserve to be spoken to by the booker like I am the scum of the earth?   Is my time and effort worth something.  Sometimes (and I say sometimes, not always)  I think some providers and their "handlers" truly have a lot of hostility toward men and see us simply as walking wallets of whom they can take advantage for their own financial gain.

The more I think about it, the more pissed I am at the way I was spoken to on the phone and that I was deliberately misled.  I honestly do not think it was the provider who intended to mislead me (and other potential clients) with these outdated photos.  I think it's the "handlers" or bookers who deliberately engaged in the misrepresentation.  The provider was too nice and understanding to have intended this to happen.

What do other providers and hobbyists think about this situation?


exlurker2003 127 Reviews 3139 reads
posted
2 / 21

check reviews. When no reviews exist, it's always much more risky that your enjoyment will not be 'guarranteed'.
Let the BIG HEAD overrule the little head when you're doing the research BEFORE seeing someone.

Just my $.02

luv`nlife 5 Reviews 3078 reads
posted
3 / 21

Reasonable question but too much "woah is me".  You made the good decision and they were out the fee for an appointment.  You won and they lost but are you really surprised you weren't awarded a medal by the people who used the old photo's to begin with?  Move on to your next stop and forget about it.

TheEdge7 60 Reviews 3079 reads
posted
4 / 21

May I suggest that you are 100% correct. I think that the people that mislead should be held responsible for your time. That'll never happen, so you did the next best thing. You left and apologized. You're obviously annoyed at the booker's reaction and rightly so. You needn't feel bad about your reaction.

Better luck next time, chap.

KOPLB 4516 reads
posted
6 / 21

This happened to me in Los Angeles, and I posted the same question there.  I wanted to get the feedback from two different cities.  Even though the two posts went up simulatneously in both NY and LA, four different NYers have posted an opinion.  Only one Angeleno has posted an opinion.  And there have even been 3 times as many "reads" of my post in LA.  Tells you that NYers truly do have opinions and aren't afraid to express it.  You gotta love it!!!  :)

lyle_Fordz 4265 reads
posted
7 / 21

If there are NO reviews and I have not had someone refer me, I do not go near it, better to be safe than sorry!
- LF*

xenopus 25 Reviews 3353 reads
posted
8 / 21


You stated:
"It took a lot of willpower not to go through with the session anyway, being that in the past the little head controls the big head, and the atmosphere of the incall location was very seductive.  But my good sense managed to prevail."

Was she beautiful?  Location  seductive? And she was honest about the photos, still chatted with you...I gotta say, unless she was really aging badly, sounds to me like you missed an opportunity with a nice 'mature' provider...

IM PAYING HERE! 4263 reads
posted
9 / 21

That was completely unnecessary.  They misled you.  Don't waste 25 cents calling them ever again.  If somehow you need their service, don't call to aplologize, just tell them they publish false ads.

newyorkjewels 2952 reads
posted
10 / 21

Yes you were mislead and they wasted your time if the pics were not accurate. However, you should have left right away instead of hanging out for 15 minutes. An agency is going to demand something for that time. Why stay asking questions? And it is strange that the girl told you the pics were 7yrs old.
The agency is not thinking that they wasted your time. They are thinking of the 15 minutes you stayed asking questions. And if you are not going to expose the agency then why even bring it up? It's a bit strange that you would stay at all if the girl was obviously not what you expected. There are guys who love to come by and give an interview they can fantasize about later. So if the agency doesnt know you they may think you are one of those annoying guys. I am not saying what they did was right but why did you stay for 15 minutes if the girl was not what you expected? Check reviews next time.

-- Modified on 3/20/2005 7:06:33 AM

VonRyan 15 Reviews 3375 reads
posted
11 / 21
Ursula Undress 3199 reads
posted
12 / 21

So, you're on my two favorite regional boards.  I just left you a message elsewhere.  Honestly, I haven't changed .... much ...

Vont to meet on the tiger skin?





Megatha Christie 1989 reads
posted
13 / 21
givemeabreak 3244 reads
posted
14 / 21

I would expect that type of response from the above agency... New York Jewels. (All you guys who are ready to jump in and blow smoke up Alyssa's ass...SAVE IT) Are you kidding ?? This guy drives all the way to the incall and is misled and he doesn't have the right to ask some questions. Give me a break Alyssa, the agency should have paid him for his time. What makes you think that your time is more valuable than his? That's the problem with the way you and other providers think. You are very presumptious to assume that you are the only one's that deserve consideration in these scenarios. WRONG !!! That's what makes the difference between an honest and caring provider or agency and those that just care about the money. SHOW ME THE MONEY !!!!! That's the bottom line.

pedal2the_metal 1 Reviews 3557 reads
posted
15 / 21

they almost never take any responsibility for even the most blatant misrepresentation... they live in their own fantasy world where they're always right and you're always wrong, they tend to be pent up angry frustrated people who have to deal with unbalanced perverts all day calling in for weird thrills and flaky unpredictable girls who can't remember what day of the week it is... a month of that work and I'd lose my mind too.

nceguy07 22 Reviews 3385 reads
posted
16 / 21

KOPLB clearly stated that he wanted feedback from both providers and hobbyists. She wasnt defending the agency and agreed that he was mislead. The point she was making was, why spend 15 mins chatting when he knew he wasnt going to stay? 15 mins is "time spent". That is what we pay for, "time". The opinion made was from a bussiness perspective not personal. After all this is a "bussiness".

Again I say, I agree with his desicion to leave. I just think that her point was interesting too.

Ng

CiaraHasFun See my TER Reviews 3877 reads
posted
17 / 21

Give the "REAL " girls a bad name ! You did right !!

KOPLB 3805 reads
posted
18 / 21

In answer to your question, I stayed 15 mintues because she invited me to do so.  We just sat in the living room and chatted about different things.  I don't want to name the agency because they seem to have a decent rep around town and I don't want to do anything that would make it difficult for this girl to earn a living. Even though she looked nothing like her photos, I think a lot of guys would have stayed anyway.  I was just really looking forward to the girl in the photos. And there are no reviews for her yet, however, one person PMd me and said he thought she was pretty good.

It's just that I was looking forward to woman in the photos (because she looks like one of my favorite actresses), and when it wasn't "her" (so to speak) I felt very dissapointed.

10s 63 Reviews 2927 reads
posted
19 / 21

The only wrong decision you made was not to post a complaint on the Board by naming the agency.  They should be driven out of business. I too walked away from a bait and switch photo 2 years ago and I immediately informed fellow hobbyist.

assjunk 3806 reads
posted
20 / 21

Did anyone tell you that:
U R an ASSHOLE?
Just from a person that makes fun of other men hiding behind as alias.
Self explanitory in this case.
Get a name or stay off the board. You are not PAYING here or you would have no reason to hide. Men, like the rest of us, do not hide. IMHO

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