I haven't posted here in a while, but I have to rant a little bit after the experience I went through tonight. I've been following this board for years,
you can check all the reviews I've posted in the past.( Just so no one thinks I'm a newbie here.) Anyway, I had set up an appt. with Gemini Starr during her visit here. I e-mailed her a week and a half prior to her visit to set up an appt., filled out her form and was all set for a 10pm appt. tonight. This was my first time seeing her (or so I hoped!) so I followed all her instructions to the T. I was really looking forward to meeting her. I spoke with her this morning and moved our appt. up to 7pm. I called her at 5pm and she said 8pm would be better. Then I was running late and called her at 7:45p
and told her I'd arrive at 8:15p. She said ok, call me when I get to the hotel. I arrived at 8:15p and called, no answer, left vm. I repeately called her and she wasnt picking up. So I figured I go check out the bar. When I walked in I saw her sitting at the bar working some other guy. Since I haven't met her before I wasnt sure it was her, but It definetly looked like the girl in the pics. I even went up to them and said "Excuse me are you Gem?" She said no, and I apologized. Then after ordering my drink I decided to call Gemini again. Low and behold I could see Gemini's purse on the bar with her phone inside it. The light on her phone was lighting up as it rang on my phone. I called twice to make sure. She was totally working this other guy and not even paying attention to her phone! To say the least I was pissed! Especially after reading some of her posts on some of the threads below, about how she perfers advanced appts.  (which I had) Gemini don't get all high and mighty on yourself! Based on all the other favorable reviews on her I'm sure she does provide an excellent service.
But if your going to treat this like a business, then act professionally and have the courtesey of honoring your appts! I understand that if you have a chance to make more money, then let me know. But don't post messages (as below) how you perfer setting up things in advanced. I say another flakey provider because she kind of reminds me of my old ATF, who started doing the same things as Gemini. (This is another story in itself)  
All I can say that after this experience Gemini is rude and inconsiderate!
She lied to my face and had me jump through hoops to set up an appt. that never happened! I know that this may sound a bit vindictive, but I thought this would be something to let the rest of you guys know.
She's just another Flakey __ore!

Maybe it's because of my recent no-show disappointment with Heidi Starr, but spikenyc's story sounds credible to me.  I know there are many fake reviews and flames which get posted by kooks, but the fact remains that there are many truthful stories (such as my own with Heidi Starr and, a few months ago, with Just Jamie) where providers with otherwise good reputations act in a truly unprofessional manner.

I agree that it will be interesting to if and how Gemini responds.  Since the jury is still out however, I think it may be a bit premature to say she's "strictly 100% business."  Spikenyc's story suggests she may (and I stress "may") be anything but.

I am so surprised to hear you say that.  I found her to be nothing but a complete delight.  In fact, I spaced out and did not call her in the AM to reconfirm my appointment and she saw me anyway (I called her later that afternoon).  

She is one of the smartest, fun, sassy, exciting and most sexual women I have ever met.  You only need to read my review of her.

I would be interested to see what she has to say....

she will be responding to this post as soon as she gets home and settled in, she is currently in transit.
XOXO
GINA
PS It's always funny to hear both sides of the story.

I HAVE NEVER WRITTEN ANYTHING ON TER BEFORE  BUT THIS TOPIC INSPIRES ME. I HAD MADE 2 APPTS TO SEE GEM  THIS WEEK. WHEN TIME CAME FOR THE FIRST APPT. I CALLED TO RECONFIRM..SHE WAS UNPLEASANT AND NASTY BECAUSE I CALLED 10 MINUTES TOO EARLY!  OK  I CALLED BACK IN 10 MINUTES   SAME UNPLEASANT ATTITUDE  AND A STERN WARNING NOT TO BE 1 MINUTE EARLY FOR THE APPT...WELL  I WAS TORN BECAUSE HER REVIEWS ARE GREAT  BUT DECIDED TO CALL HER   AND INFORM HER I AM NOT  COMING AT ALL..SHE SAID THATS FINE  ND HUNG-UP..THERE ARE WAY TOO MANY GREAT WOMEN AROUND TO DEAL WITH THAT KIND OF  PERSONALITY,,,I BELIEVE EVERYTHING THE FIRST POSTER WROTE

I was going to be seeing this lady in the not too distant future, and hope she has a good rebuttal

Ok---Yes we had a 10pm appointment that evening and yes you called me in the morning to see if we could change it.  I gladly obliged to your request which was 7pm.  You then called me around 5:30pm and said you were going to have trouble making it around 7 and YOU (MIGHT I STRESS YOU) asked me if we could move it to 7:30pm. I said why don't we make it 8PM!  You said fine.  You then called me again at I believe 7:47pm and said you would be late around 8:15pm.  I said that is fine call me when you get here.  I decided to have a drink as I am hyper-active and a bit claustrophobic especially in those small rooms in NY.  You did not leave a message at 8:15 as I have saved all the messages (including the mean ones).  You coming up to me I felt was out of line as discretion with my stage name is a must.  I felt that my safety and anonymity had been compromised as I am very discreet and I do not think anyone would answer to that especially being in the hotel bar that they are staying at.  How do you think it looks if you say my name in a full bar and I am known as someone else.  Red Flag----not good!  especially when I am talking to people that do not know what my occupation is.  I have had 2 stalkers in less than 2 yrs in this business.  Although I am wild in the bedroom I have dignity and respect and am cautious.  Especially when I had to move rooms there because someone below in which I will post under after this.  He called as was supposed to also in the am but he also called 45 minutes early wanting the room # I told him when he called that I had already told him to call 5 minutes before the appointment as I do not give my room # out that early due to previous stalking incidences.  He finally got the room # and cancelled.  So now I have someone who I am scared is another stalker and have to make up a story to the hotel to try and change rooms.  I have no idea what he looks like and can just come up to me at the hotel or whatever as he now has my location and room #.  If I do not change rooms he can also seeing as I do not know him either hurt me or come by and just knock on my door if I was busy with someone.  Yes he did also call 15minutes early also and tried again that is when I probably had an attitude because I had told him 3 times to call when he got here.  There could of been a better way to handle this such as maybe send me a drink and tell the bartender your name and I would of came over which would of been more respectful and gentlemanly.  Not come up and ask me if it is me when I am being discreet and mingling with people.  After all your time changes I was very much thinking you were going to do it again or not show up.  The bar was load with alot of people around me.  You have to think with the big head and be discreet.  Also after that nasty message I have saved on my phone when I checked it I would not call you back.  Yes I was upset as my name was used.  And I do not let people know who I am as it is not safe and I am very secretive and safe for all of our safety.  Flakey---lets see ----hmmm how many times did I try to accomodate you when you kept changing times?  Thank God I was dead and had cancellations and no-shows and was able to try and accomodate you.  I actually paid you guys this trip as I went in the negative.  But I will not compromise my safety and am not greedy.  If I would of said yes to your ? of who I am then that would look a little bad as the peopl around me know my real name.  Not Gemini and Gemini is not a name people name there kids.  Sorry but it is called discretion.  Sorry I did not hear the phone.  But you did not leave me a message at 8:15 I have 2 nasty ones at 8:47 and another one later in which if you are that disrespectful.  Then you are not a gentleman.  Safety and discretion comes first!  It helps keep all of us safe! the  big D decided I had an unpleasant attitude so not to honor our appointment since you decided to leave a nasty voice mail after agreeing upon 8pm and then due to your lateness then at 8:15 and then you leave a nasty voicee mail at 8:47.  Why would I honor your appointment if your tone in the vm is nasty and threatening and scared me and you approached me and compromised my safety in an unprofessional manner by not thinking with the big head and were not concerned of my safety and discretion.  I am sure with the approach you made no ladie with dignity and respect for herself would of honored your time.  Remember my safety and discretion are the most important thing to me!


If I missed something let me know!


Love,

Gemini

-- Modified on 9/25/2004 7:04:51 AM

When you met me at the party I was on a date and mingled some but had to give him my attention as that is only right.  I was not at either party single.  Sorry if you felt I was not nice, but I was also with a client and was not setting up dates.  Also was in Vegas with samee client and was booked for that whole weekend with him in Vegas.  So I had to pay attention to him out of respect for him.  Well I have to run and type somemore.  So I will leave this for now.


Love,

Gemini

As always there are two sides to every story,and I think
Gem's will speak for itself.

I have known and seen Gem for over a year. Have nothing but great times with her. Great lady who I WILL see again. All I know is if you show her any disrespect, your done. All I know is she is sure to respond to this and tell her side of the story.

Well you can scroll up and read what I wrote under the original post.  Thanks for stressing me out and making me have to move rooms.  Yes I was rude but after you calling me to confirm and I talk you to call me when you got to the hotel 5 minutes before the appointment and you tried 45 minutes before so I told you again I do not give that info out for safety reasons and I told you again to call 5 minutes before when you are at the hotel.  You then called agin (not listening)  15 minutes before and I told you again to call me for the room # at 5 minutes til.  You finally did and I gave you my room #  You then called back and cancelled.  Now I am thinking another stalker and my safety as well as anyone else I was to meet as I do show my face on the website I am concerned of your motives and have to come up with a story to move rooms as you could be lurking around the hotel for all I knew.  Maybe it is time to blurr my face in my pics on the website.

Thank you---that was for big D

-- Modified on 9/25/2004 6:47:17 AM

Sounds like a disaster but these things do happen some times right?

His side:
He had a chaotic work day with a lot of schedule changes. Thinking he was doing the right thing, he called her every time there was a time shift. He probably should have anticipated the continued changes and let her know he needed flexibility. When all is said and done with his day he's ready to relax and expects that all will fall into place due to his meticulous calling and planning.

Her side:
She's invested in a room to accomodate friends. Stress ensues after spending cash on a room, dealing with the bummer of slow business, flakey callers, cancellations and no-shows. This guy seems like another one to her. Forced to deal with it (due to not having any other appointments) she accommodates and rearranges until she's fed up. She resigns herself to a night of nothing-ness and heads out for some personal time.

His side:
He's arrived and he can't find her. He calls but probably not when she expected him to. This adds to the many annoyances of his day.

Her side:
She's now at the bar enjoying the company of a stranger and letting off some steam. (I personally doubt she was working another guy to go upstairs. She was probably being flirted with and was flirting back as we girls do). – He calls but not when she expected him to. This adds to the many annoyances of her day.

His & Her Side:
He continues to call and call. He's already there and his blood is starting to boil. He probably does approach her - pissed. Her blood boils after he calls her out by her stage name. She ignores him - pissed. Next come his nasty voicemail messages, her retrieval of the messages and in turn, her own angry reaction. The result? Disaster.

They both obviously endured their own horrors due to the misunderstanding. Unfortunately (really!!) sometimes the best of intentions end up going awry. Chalk another one up to human miscommunication and move forward!

I have known Gem for nearly eight months. I know we all have our ups and downs, but as far as this thing is concerned, all and everyone, to a person, has spoken highly of Gem, both in and out fo the Hobby. She is respectful, discreet, naturally sweet (not fake), accomodating, fair, superb in her performance, and damn sexy.

Now, we all have weeks from hell. I think certain cities bring that out. I think with the rash of no-shows, and her prior stalking issue, you have to take that into consideration.

But this post brings to mind a couple of unwritten rules that we sometimes forget:
Never, ever, approach a provider in public and use her provider name unless she is expecting to meet you. Just bad form. I once bumped into a provider I knew at an airport, and the eye contact alone was enough to cut steel. But, by NOT approaching her, and confirming later, I was elevated to elite (smart and aware) status. Translation=benefits.

Never approach a provider who is on a date at a social function to talk about biz. You have to use your street smarts on this one, but if the lady is hanging on the arm of a guy for a good part of the time, well, you gotta figure that one out.

Time is money. If the time doesn't work for you, take a pass, and hope for a return. This isn't like taking your Mercedes to the car wash. It involves a little more than a stop-and-get-groceries mentality. If that's the way you think about it, then no one wants to hear your tale of woe about the store being closed, cuz it just wasn't that important to you to begin with. Put the time into it that you want back out of it.

Lastly, I know nutty providers. Gem isn't a flaky provider.

And back to the weeks from Hell. Imagine you were on your job, which involves entertaining ugly, sometimes fat, mostly annoying, bitchy women day and night, and making them happy, even though some of them make you hurl chunks. Imagine you hide this job from friend and family, for security puposes. And imagine that your income depended upon these women, so you gotta suck it up. Then you get a rash of no-shows, and you see a few particularly fugly and annoying women in one week, and you just want a break from them. Then you get the scheduler from hell. Then that scheduler shows up in public and says "aren't you 'Joe Big Di*k'?".

I'm embellishing here, but if you're not aware of these facts, and this perspective, then you probably have to work out some issues by paying $50 per hour and laying back on the couch and talking.

SMTM

PS:
For the record, for any wise a** about to post the standard 'alias' rebuttal, I refuse to go with my old monniker, but I've had more reviews, drank more beer, been to more countries, yadda yadda....so can that reply before ya start it. It dont fly, boy. I dont need to prove a m f thing to no one. I just know my friends, and I can smell someone who likes to start stuff.


-- Modified on 9/25/2004 10:50:16 AM

Smart. I dont blame you for being cautious in this day and age. No foul that I can see here as a first date should be prompt on both sides. When things go to hell as they did here, the whole landscape changes. When I meet Gem the first time, I wont reschedule. First impressions can sink you

I would never see a client after he had gone up to me in a bar using my stage name either.

Gemini - in response, I did call at 8:15pm. I also left you a page with my number. As far as this stalking thing, I had no idea about this situation. Also, if you had told me that you didn't want to wait for me in your room you should have said so when I changed from 8p to 8:15p. (I don't think 15min. is that much of a difference) Yes, you are right, I might of handled the situation differently when I saw you at the bar. But please understand my point of view.
We had a standing appt. and I arrived and called you at the time we agreed upon. After trying to reach you several times then seeing you sitting at the bar with your legs wrapped around another guy, well I think I have a right to be upset. I dont think I compromised your saftey at all by approaching you. I was very discreet about it, the only ones who heard me were you and the guy you were sitting with. There was no one else that was sitting in ear shot. As far as nasty vm's, I had a pissed off tone, but I did not curse, in fact I remember saying that I was going to be a gentleman and not use foul language. Also I left this message after I left the bar, A half hour after our appt. was scheduled!
This whole stiuation could have been avoided if you picked up your phone and spoke with me. I did call at 8:15pm! Even if I didn't use your name when I approached you, it seemed like you weren't going to acknowledge me anyway.
Speaking of dignity and respect, i think I was very respectful until you decided to blow me off, then lied to my face when I approached you. Have a little dignity, you knew we had an appt. and you were the one who decieded to not answer your phone. I am very respectful of people and expect the same respect and consideration in return. By you not picking up your phone to let me know you were not going to be in your room is inconsiderarte and rude.

SMTM - First off I'm not trying to start stuff. I use this board as a resource and just tried to let others be aware of what could or shouldn't happen.

"Now, we all have weeks from hell. I think certain cities bring that out. I think with the rash of no-shows, and her prior stalking issue, you have to take that into consideration."

I was not at all aware of her situations, if she had let me know, then yes, I would have taken it into consideration.

" But this post brings to mind a couple of unwritten rules that we sometimes forget:
Never, ever, approach a provider in public and use her provider name unless she is expecting to meet you."

I think I approached her in a sublte, discreet manner. Also I did have a standing appt. . I don't think your anaology of "the scheduler from hell" of me is correct.
I only changed our time twice, and she made it sound like it was better for her anyway.
Believe me - all Gemini had to do to avert this whole situation was simply call me back and tell me she wasn't comfortable with all the time changes and had a bad experience previously. I would have understood.

SMTM - I'm not try to prove a m-fing thing to anyone. I think this board is a great resource for those of us in the "hobby", and by letting others be aware of what happened, is only adding to the reliability & credibility of these boards.

Best regards,
Spikenyc

Thanks Laney!
I think it always helps to have a non-objective opinion.
You make alot of sense.
Peace,
Spikenyc

Spike, you might not agree with this but here me out.  We hobbyist are out here to get one thing.  And if we have a little sense about us we can protect our physical safety very easily.  But these ladies have to deal not only with the cream of the crop but the insidious under belly of the hobby population.  

They range from the fairly benign lonely, desperate guy that might call, email or IM too much to the psychodic sociopaths that can spell real, genuine physical danger.  I can see how your situation spiraled out of control.  And to be perfectly honest, it never occurred to me that their would be anything wrong with approaching her as you did in the bar.  But after reading her response, I am happy to learn from your mistake.

The bottom line is that you know her but she has no idea who you are.  Put yourself in her place for a moment.  Your indiscretion was a violation.  Add to that the fluxiation in your schedule (and I have been in precisely the same situation), and try to understand the number of bull manure calls and no shows ladies like gemini starr gets and it is pretty easy to see her point.

Now that you have had a time to step away from the situation, I think you can see her point if you are willing.  I saw nothing wrong with your original post.  It was completely from your perspective.  But once you read her response and you see that none of the "facts" are in dispute you should be able to easily see her perspective.

The bottom line here is that you made a mistake and now you owe her an apology.  That's my two cents based on what you both have written.  No flame here.  I can see how this started.  But be a man and admit you were wrong.

Strother Martin

Cool Hand Luke


but in my family it happens all the time.

Badabing!

Hey spike you owe her nothing. Don't apologize. Those are the chances she takes with the employment she chose.

Spike:

I respect you as a poster and skilled hobbyist.  But you are simply wrong here my friend.  I know kind of what you are going through.  But I am telling you from someone on the outside looking in that you are wrong and you should apologize.  Her first priority is to protect her safety.  No matter how discreet you think you were, it spooked her.  Look man, I know you are a good guy.  Just back up and look at it dispassionately.

What a kind and sensative attitude.  You are right... saying you are sorry for a miscommunication between an outstanding hobbyist and an excellent provider makes no sense.  Let it fester or make it worse.  Honestly.  Do you here yourself?  How would you feel if someone took that attitude with you if you felt your physical safety was threatened?  There is nothing flaky about being careful.

GEMINISTAR

I WAS AMAZED TO READ YOUR RESPONSE TO ME..A STALKER!!   IF I AM A STALKER YOU ARE  MARY POPPINS    I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT YOUR RECONSTRUCTION OF EVENTS  IS NOT ACCURATE  AND YOUR  CONCLUSION  IS ABSURD.   I AM NOT WRITING THIS   FOR ANY OTHER REASON  THEN TO ASSURE YOU THAT YOUR FEARS ARE INVALID   AND YOU CAN TAKE THAT THOUGHT OUT OF YOUR MIND    EVEN THOUGH YOU WERE VERY RUDE AND NASTY TO ME  I WOULDNT WANT ANYONE TO HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT  THAT KIND OF THING.   I AM SORRY HOW THIS WORKED OUT    I WAS IN THE CAB  ON THE WAY TO U  AND DECIDED THAT IF U WRE SO NASTY  ON THESE CALLS  THEN  WE WOULD HAVE NOT HIT IT OFF VERY WELL

I WISH U THE BEST  OF LUCK IN THE FUTURE AND MAYBE U CAN CONSIDER BEING A BIT  NICER  AS  MOST OF US ARE  REALLY NICE GUYS
AND IF YOU WRE MORE PLEASANT WE PROBABLY  WOULD HAVE BEEN FRIENDS FOR YEARS  AS I AM WITH THE OTHER LADIES I HAVE METOVER THE YEARS

Egads.. Maybe I am a tad bit out of line..

I have been approached three times in Public.. and sure that is what happens when you have your face plastered all over the internet.. I was in Pittsburgh on a business lunch .. when a hobbyist approached me by Ciara...was easy to weasle out of. None the less.. It's not right..

2nd time.. At our hockey Arena here in Buffalo during the frozen four. A gentlemen I had never met... Approached me while I was standing in the concession line with my 12 yr old.. That definetly isnt right

3rd time.. at a county fair while with my S/O.. I do not need to mention the right or wrong in that.

However, "working it ".. I am sure she was not in this bar acting uncooth and making it look like this. I've read many things about Gemini Star.. and not anything was in an uncooth or indecent manner..

But to approach someone in public by their "stagename" while with another gentlemen? Wonder if she as well runs another business .. maybe she was meeting up with a relative while visiting.. Some girls have their S/Os traveling with them...could have been the case.. Or may be the case with other girls..

Moral of the story is.. NEVER approach a provider in public unless this is originally planned..

Don't approach somebody in public! I've actually had it happen to me where an agency owner said hello to me in public (using my real name). It was okay but it definitely surprised though. You just don't need to put the lady in that position. The best suggestion in this thread was to send her a drink with your name.

thirsty

thirsty

Toast and all others following this thread.
Thank you all for your comments & advice. I have considered all the different perspectives and point of views. My reaction is this. I disagree -
No, I don't think that I owe Gemini an apology. I gave her my personal information (which she could use against me if she wanted to) and i followed all her instructions for meeting her. Changing appt. times is not a reason to think that I am a stalker or sociopath. I called her at the time we agreed on (I did call at 8:15p) and she decided not to pick-up. As far as the way I approached her in the bar - I think I had a right to, especially when she knew I had a standing appt. If she was so concerned about her saftey, then my advice to her is that she shouldn't be hanging out in the bar of the hotel where she is staying (or working), especially when she knew that she had set up an appt. at that time.
This is the business she choose for herself to be in and she should accept that time changes are part of the business. I don't know why some of you guys kiss these girls asses so much. Who's paying here?! Now don't get me wrong, if a lady acts like a lady, I'll treat her like one - If a lady acts like a _ _ ore, then she'll be treated like a  _ _ ore!  Bottom line is this - in this "hobby" or any business for that matter, its a two-way street and it has to work both ways. So a little dignity, respect and consideration should be shared on both sides.
Peace,
Spikenyc

I also know I do not have a corner and what is right.  Your point is an accurate and well grounded response to your experience.  I personally think on a different day under different circumstances you both would have had a marvelous time.

Your decision is justly yours and I respect it... just as I do your posts and reviews.  Stay safe my friend.

Why when I gave you my hotel and told you to call me when you arrived and said I will give you the room # 5 minutes before.  You tried to call 45minutes early I then told you again to call me 5 minutes before as it only takes 5 minutes to get to the room when you are in the hotel.  I have to be careful as I do not know you and even my regulars have the same protocol as for safety reasons.  you then tried 15 minutes before to get the room # yes I did get get upset as you did not respect me from the get go and listen.  I told you to call back in 10 minutes.  I then gave you the room # at 5 minutes til.  You then called back and canceled after having my room # with no explanation.  If I was so rude why did you not cancel when you called 45 minutes early?  Or when you tried again 15 minutes early?  Why did you wait til you had my room # and then a minute later cancel?  I have no idea what you look like and had to then move rooms for the safety of myself and others whom I had planned on visiting.  I could not change hotels as they were all booked for the United Nations convention.  Trust me I tried for the safety of all of us.  It was hard enough to come up with a reason to change rooms.  As to being friends for years after all that I am sure that would not be an option as I like gentlemen that can appreciate and also understand safety issues.  For all I know if I did not change rooms you could of been at my door at any hour, you could of knocked on my door when I was with someone, you could of been lurking around the hotel to find me (which you still could even though I chnged rooms), You could of done anything even messed with my friends.  I do not even know you nor plan on knowing you.  Your classification of nice I do not see as the truth.  I have met many nice guys (total true gentlemen with respect for privacy and safety).  Put yourself in us ladies situation if you are able and see what we go through to keep you guys safe.  I have never once had a problem with any SO calling me or LE.  We are always at risk for stalkers and someone that has issues from there past that try to get into the system that can harm, stalk, or even kill us.  It is about respect on both sides and understanding.  Alot of you take risks in your life to come and visit us---but I am sure you are not faced with being maimed or even killed---maybe divorce or getting biaaaatched at.  How do I know you are not a stalker?  You get the room # after trying multiple times earlier and I kept telling you 5 minutes before the appointment and then canceling after you get the room # with no explanation.  I have had serious stalkers one tried following me to TX last summer.  I do not take chances especially when others are also involved and they can be put at risk.

I am done on all this mess

Gemini

First you said you left a voice mail at 8:15 now you say you left a page at 8:15.  So which one is it?  I rest my case!

Readers please read the original post and compare!

Thank you I am done with this drama!  

I hope everyone has a wonderful day and a better week!  

Love,

Gemini