"Manhattan" -- i mean, can you GET any more vague than that? if anyone else is like me, this is really annoying to me. i understand that we're all into anonymity and you can't give away an exact address. but i don't see why providers and reviewers cannot provide some general cross streets. i mean, at the very least, something like: "midtown west, mid-40s" would be helpful. when you write "midtown" -- do you have any idea how HUGE a canvas that is? actually, before i got the general 30s or 40s or 20s (street numbers), i'd love to at least know East vs West. we should all get into this habit. unless it's a fairly specific neighborhood name (like financial district, flat iron, etc.).
or am i just being a jerk?
actually, it's probably more about laziness. if i'm in the east village, the thought of trekking up to west 50s is dreadful. but i'd like to be able to see this location without having to call the provider.
someone tell me to shut up already...............
Have to disagree with you. Ladies posting details about near-by cross streets are making it easier for LE and possibly stalkers to zero in on them, so being "vague" and general in just saying Manhattan appears to be the safest option. Then again, I have a different perspective than you...I have to drive into the city in order to rendezvous, rather than taking the subway or other mass transit. Thus, it doesn't matter all that much to me where in the City the lady is staying, since I can typically find parking nearby. The extra time it takes to get to less accessible places in the City has never been an issue, since I have to factor in an hour of travel time and to deal with traffic and parking contingencies anyway.
Just my three pennies...
I agree with your critics. Manhattan is Manhattan and that's all a provider should disclose. It's
only after a hobbyist makes inquiry and corresponds with the provider that a more localized description of the locale should be disclosed, at the providers discretion.A smart provider knows that it's better to be safe than sorry.
As stated before, Manhattan isn't that large. Getting to the west 50s from the east village is hardly a trek. If you're looking for ladies that are within a couple blocks of you, then yes, that's probably laziness, as the internet makes this search pretty convenient as it is. I base my decision on whether it's a lady I want to spend time with or not, not what intersection her incall is near. It's such a silly thing to limit one's self over.
"Subway?" he said, scratching his head...
If you want to book, send her an e-mail and ask if she's "mid town West" or East. That's not too specific. Expecting cross streets is unreasonable. You'll only get that in the first of your "two calls". Or in an e-mail after you've agreed to book and have been screened. Anyway, what's the big deal with coming uptown? Too good for the subway?
I often hobby during the day, and leave my office and then come back. Proximity to my office is a huge factor for me, and the difference between "west 40s" or "east 20s" can add 1/2 hour or more to the length of my disappearance from work. So I do appreciate some specificity in location, in a review or a provider ad. I don't think saying "west 40s", or "East Village" gives LE or a stalker much help.
When I was visiting LA, I happily drove 20 miles to an appointment. But when you live in Manhattan, there is a different mentality.
9 times out of 10, when I am looking for someone to see, I search in the neighborhood where I am (usually midtown east or midtown west), even though it's an easy subway ride (or 2) to get just about anywhere.
I don't know why that mentality exists, but it does. Don't judge us for it. ![]()
So saying West 30's or East 50's give us a much better idea of what we are looking at, and since both of those areas have hundreds of thousands of people in them, it doesn't help LE in the slightest. (and, let's be realistic. If LE is looking for more specific info, they can get it. They don't need us.)
seems to be opinions on both sides. and i'm OK with being "wrong" on this.
but seriously, though we all know how "small" manhattan is, it's actually quite a trek to those of us that live here and do not own a car (which is most of us). and you've got it all wrong when you're talking about the subway -- i take the subway and... ... (wait for it....) the BUS all the time (gasp!). ......... so i just assumed that this was part of the discussion.
seriously, tell a new yorker to go from upper west side to east 30s. it's just not an easy commute. and again, the subway lines are actually dictating what an "easy" commute is. to many of us, the $$$ is certainly a cost, but so is the TIME that's built into the round-trip commute back and forth.
don't get me wrong; i'm all for safety and anonymity. but i really don't think much is given away by saying "east mid-30s":, or "west mid-40s". there are seriously hundreds of thousands of people in each of those quoted areas.
i asked one provider (via email) about their location, and i get "midtown west". and after further convo, she was located on 10th avenue!!! ok, i understand that that's midtown west but that is VERY far west. i think this statement pretty much will create one of two reactions: (1) from new yorkers, you wholeheartedly agree and say "whoa, that's far out there". (2) and then others that say "whatever". (for the record, i took the train, then transferred to a cross-town bus to get there; don't even get me started on cross-town buses.)
for those of you that answer "whatever", i'm just letting you know: it sounds silly, but sometimes, a decision about whether to see a provider will be made on ease of getting to the location (by mass transit!). obviously i'm just one person, so it doesn't matter to you per se. but there might be more like me out there.
just sayin'.......... ![]()
to the first reply post: i lived in LA for a year and i DO understand the mentality. to make an analogy, i think stating "Manhattan" is kinda like stating "Southern California".
i met up with a friend the other day for lunch. told her i was in soho and to give me a call when she got off the subway, thinking there's really only 3 subway lines that get you to soho and they're all really close to each other. (soho is, after all, a pretty small nabe.) ......... she ended up (gently) yelling at me. "umm, hello? do you know how big soho is? how am i supposed to plan? can you give me some cross streets?"
I've got to agree with Waterclone on this one: in Manhattan, neighborhood makes a huge difference.
Here's an example: a few years ago a Montreal-based agency that used to send providers down to New York from time to time got in touch when they received a number of cancellations for one of their best reviewed girls who was visiting New York. They reduced her rate considerably, but you had to respond ASAP, because appointments were going on a first come, first served basis. They didn't reveal her location in the initial email. Without thinking, I accepted. The time they gave me was only a half hour away. Unfortunately, the hotel she was staying in was not easily accessible by public transportation, and it was raining, making it next to impossible to find a cab. Needless to say, I arrived out of breath and soaking wet and a few minutes late.
It can easily take an hour to get around Manhattan, sometimes longer, depending on the location. If you have a tight schedule, neighborhood can be a crucial factor in determining your hobbying habits.