I have never posted a bad remark regarding any provider. But this has me seriously peeved. I used to go by the name freq1flyer when I had the services of Angel for one night during January. I fell back into the hobby recently and found her. She told me that was operating off radar. I wanted several overnights during Oct. Seemed interested only she had some sick old guy coming for a visit and it was his birthday and she really needs to tend to his medical needs and it was the week of her period. Fair enough I thought we could do something and she agreed. Then out of the blue I am approached by another provider friend of hers called netmichelle. Maybe she doesn't get the dynamics of the whole D/s thing, but I don't like being offered. She apologised so I spell out the plan for the week and mention i am taking another submissive ( we did two girl before) and boom out of the blue I get the usual you were on of my best, we had a night I will never foget but I can't do it. So basically fellas how many times have we heard this from providers who have no clue what the hell they want?
Was wondering how many of you have had the old guy is visiting and needs an escort for medical help.
Stay away from this one!

these are 2 VERY well established ladies.  You may want to ponder the possibility that Angel was telling you the truth, thought about your interests and called her friend netmichelle, and well, the rest of your version of what happened seems to indicate a lot of anger on your part.

Take a deep breath and put yourself in their shoes.  They were probably well intentioned; you just wanted the role playing to start before the session.

Not only that, but Angel told you she was flying under the radar and you outed her.  Not a good move.

Just my .02

-- Modified on 9/10/2005 8:31:38 PM

-- Modified on 9/11/2005 4:34:23 AM

I think I had too much to drink tonight. What in the world is this guy talking about? Who are these people?? I know Net and she has her toys but Dom/subs/paddles. I am still not sure what this guys wants? Posted this under and alias because I didn't want to look stupid.lol

-- Modified on 9/11/2005 6:05:49 AM

There may be some instances when negative comments about a provider on the board are warranted, but this isn't one of them.  Ohtax isnt complaining about a session gone awry or a provider acting badly; he's complaining because he tried but could not arrange a session on HIS terms (terms which seem to be fairly idiosyncratic based on his BDSM persona).  It's understandable that he now doesn't want anything to do with Angel or Net, but that's a pure YMMV deal, and does not begin to justify a statement as hostile as:  "Stay away from this one!"   This is an even clearer case to me because Angel, to my understanding, is a true submissive, which is by definition a situation in which she will click with some but not with others.  So to each his own, ohtax.  You've now spoken for yourself.

I had no f*%*ing clue what this guy was trying to say (though it was unmistakable that he's pissed - and likely at the wrong people).  There isn't a day that goes by, that I'm not reminded how important those boring English/Lit/grammar classes were.  Glad to know it wasn't just my chardonnay clouding my perception

I could never put myself in their shoes as I have no understanding what it is to rent yourself out. That was a pretty redundant statement. She never thought about my interests as she emailed saying that she knew snetmichelle was not my type. It was a discussion between them due to the fact that she earned serious money with me before and providers share information like that, I don't think that is groundbreaking news. Again I was annoyed because it was so unprofessional compared with what I am accustomed to. If you don't find it unusual to use cliche and the most lame excuse imaginable to pull out then you and I are used to a different type of provider. Also the "true submissive" remark is such a tired phrase which gets brandished about all the time. If someone were a true submissive they wouldn't be looking for cash as a reward for services, it would be from a need to please and so attaching a pic and a profile to an escort directory would not be the way to go. Instructions in being a Dom by attending Paddles. I doubt anyone would get anything from attending there other than finding themselves relieved that they have managed to stay in shape over the years. I have never seen so many obese people in one place. It looks  more like a weight loss center. But I shouldn't have outed her I was annoyed by the immature games which were being played and that is the only thing I regret. Have a great day everyone.

-- Modified on 9/11/2005 6:37:38 AM

You know Moment there isn't "a may be.. warranted" there is an argument for warranting negative comments when one has been given the run around. This is what happened and said before a true submissive doesn't hire herself out ..you need to doublecheck the meaning.

I totally agree with Moment. There is a huge difference in complaining about what happens in a session rather than setting one up. We've all had personal matters come up that require rescheduling. These are stand-up ladies.

"I have never posted a bad remark regarding any provider."
Yep. More like never really posted anything. Hmmm.....ohtaxattorney aka freq1flyer I have found only two posts on the TER boards from you under ohtaxattorney not freq1flyer after searching for 5000 days on the NYC, the ISO and the National boards here on TER, both of these posts are just 5 days apart and speak of *only* of SubAngel. This is obsessive.

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ISO BOARD results, searched 5000 days
Angel Submissive NYC
Posted by ohtaxattorney , 9/5/2005 12:32:54 AM
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=15679&boardID=14&page=1

NYC BOARD results, searched 5000 days
Submissive Angel Playing Games
Posted by ohtaxattorney , 9/10/2005 2:32:18 PM
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=62294&boardID=2&page=1

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Your reviews are under a different handle/alias from your inflamatory post here on TER NYC board. This confirms what you have said. Here are your reviews:

http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/searchbyreviewerResults.asp?MemberID=342913&Membername=freq1flyer

Better for me to bottomline this one for you. Your IPs don't match, your e-mails addresses are wrong, your diction, syntax, grammar is different, you have partial info. the rest is off, you ask all the stupid donut questions, and project all this crazy hostility from an alleged handle under a different name that once gave her a 10/10 review. To quote your 01/05 review of Angel "She is a very intelligent, very beautiful, utterly engaging young woman" and now some fucking 10 whole months after this review and being told she is retired, you lash out "But this has me seriously peeved... how many times have we heard this from providers who have no clue what the hell they want...Stay away from this one!"

Um, dude, she is retired. Her reviews no longer listed on TER. Do you mean me, Netmichelle? People already are too scared to see me. I speak my mind, and I am a total top, really bi, and can squirt on command. Duh.

It takes two points to draw a line. So why don't you put down your small gun for a moment and get it through your little head. Angel is retired and go have some more glazed donuts. Really. Let it go. Go ahead and get bitchy with me, write me a fake bad review, post crap about me, or send me e-mail viruses, call me nonstop or whatever rejected obessive dudes usually do. You can't out me, I am already out, way out. Besides, it only turns me on, but then again, everybody knows I am wired different. My overinflated TER personna thankfully filters out the creeps like you. By the way, thanks, because my loyal NYC TER mafia really like to eat frosted donuts for brecky on the weekends.

Sorry I took so long to respond, but I was at a private underground Women Only Turkish Oil Wrestling club in Manhattan till early this Sunday morning...so thanks again for the frosted mini donuts, gee they go so nicely with the Lurker pics. More coffee anyone?

Love, Netmichelle

http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?ID=31731

In conclusion, if you are going to say something signifigant, make sure it is not only verifiable but that your reputation stands behind it. Nobody knows who you are here, and honestly, since nothing transpired, we could care less.


-- Modified on 9/11/2005 11:36:36 AM

ReUDE! Listen to yourself.

You guys are scaring the "brotha"..Going back to watching the Braves and the Nationals..lol Go Red Soxs!!!

There is a three way creed of BDSM behavior: safe, sane, consensual. You fail three out of three.

-- Modified on 9/11/2005 5:52:44 PM

I am a true submissive. I was involed with BDSM long before I ever started this. Being submissive honestly is what makes me good at this. I love to please. I don't summit to every man I see but by nature I always do my best to please.So repectfully Sir you are wrong.
dawn

-- Modified on 9/11/2005 5:56:59 PM

...  I read the first three posts and must stop at the part where you say "you have no understanding what it is to rent yourself out."  If in fact you are an attorney, you should know first hand what it is like to rent yourself out.  Attorneys with their billable hours, contingency fees, retainer fees, etc. are the best at "renting themselves out".  Any attorney would agree with me.....

You have your signals crossed... A submissive, a PSE, a GFE, we all love what we do but when it boils down to it, IT IS A PROFESSION just as you have yours, (LE, Law, janitor, whatever it is you do....)

If you want a true DOM, don't look on TER or The other boards....  Go to the streets or a club and GOOD LUCK with finding that, Baby!!!!!!  

Angel, is in fact that is who you are referring, is retired and no longer available.

. . . are worth $100 million dollars in my book.....

-- Modified on 9/11/2005 6:16:46 PM

. . .  (S) STUPID . . .

Keep it simple, STUPID (KISS)....  In which case according to your own words, you would be the STUPID one.....

The choice to entertain a date with an individual is a provider's right and ONLY a provider's right.  It is the hobbiest's priviledge (one for which he should be EXTREMELY grateful! )

As Nettie said said, for a true DOM, you sure do BITCH alot...  

You know ohtaxattorney when I posted my problem which happened during a session and involved threats etc. Many on this board told me to buck up and take it like a man. I broke it off with the offender and I have moved on happily I might add----Drop it and move on otherwise some people might think you have an unaturally unhealthy fixation with these particular ladies. And why should anyone see you after this--my God your coming off almost, if not, as bad as the woman who flipped out on me. This is obession is unhealthy.

Tommy you summed it up pretty well. You are right I was annoyed,I am now less so. Incase anyone on the board or who has occasion to read the board ANGEL HAS RETIRED ANGEL HAS RETIRED ANGEL HAS RETIRED ANGEL HAS RETIRED ANGEL HAS RETIRED. All ladies who enter the "profession" are of supreme calibre, even including netmichelle. They are wonderul. They do a good job and take unnecessary risks for the good of mankind. It is something every little girl should aspire towards. Actually instead of home ed, there ought to be classes in BBBJ. Did I mention that Angel has retired? She has. She has. She has. She has. She has. I am now going to restring my guitar because I cannot think of another thing to say.
Ciao.

ReUDE! Listen to yourself NETTIE

Did you call him?  That is the question you should be answering.  If not then why is this  guy dragging your name thru the mud. You can out him on the board.

and were bitch slapped by the board members.

I know I'm not much into this BDSM, but you're supoosed to be a DOM?

Stick to your day job.

How's the wretling? Did you win anything?

thanks you all for your supportive comments.  here is the REAL deal.

poster ohtaxattorney says "I used to go by the name freq1flyer when I had the services of Angel for one night during January".  that is *gasp* a lie.  this person read a review of me made by freq1flyer, and then contacted me, pretending to be freq1flyer, to try to get a reference for a porn star.  when i refused to provide a reference, he (or she) posted this silly stuff here.

this person has also contacted other providers across the country with the same story, attempting to get references.  it may (or may not) also be relevant that the agency most frequently reviewed by the real freq1flyer was taken down in a big bust several months ago.  i have tried to contact the REAL freq1flyer to advise him of this situation, but he is MIA.

everyone, please play safe out there.  

~ a.

Ohtaxattorney, how lame to state,;if she were a true submissive, she would'nt want to be paid for doing what she loves?  Well we can love what we do and that has nothing to do with the fact that this is how some of us pay our bills, a job, you must have one of those if you want to see Netmichelle and Angel? I absolutely abhore when some one says,' Well if you love what you do, then why do I have to pay, I can be your plaything'?  That is so lame!!!!!!!!  By the way, how do you pay your bills?

I am that "SICK OLD GUY' ' and I will tell you all right now  that "ANGEL " has and still helps keep this sick old guy alive. TO KNOW THIS WOMAN AND LADY IS TO LOVE LOVE HER. She is my "Dearest Friend" and lover her as that.