Hope you can make that one, too!
throwing something out there for everyone...I noticed a lot of animosity on the board and competition with the M&G's and wanted to try something different....
hosting a party and hats off to those who have is a lot of work, and sometimes expense and then you have those who will find fault in it...so here goes a different approach...
Let's find a place, and I will offer to find the place for free with no obligation from anyone, where we can go for Halloween in masquerade (those members that are too shy to let anyone else in the hobby meet you, this is a golden opportunity) where there are public people and us. I was thinking of a dance club of sorts or a hall that is throwing a masquerade ball...now to entice the women we can have every gentleman pay for one female guest. I will find a place that will not empty our pockets and assure you that I have no affiliations with any institution and will not be making anything...if there is enough show of hands VIA PM only please...I will start the ball rolling and come back to you with PM about where we stand...
I think there is a lot bad blood on this board and we need to bury the axes, not in each other's backs, and come together!
Now try not to bash me...there may be those of you who don't like me but I think this is a noble effort so try not to shit all over it...and personally see what I've seen with these M&G's is a great idea...first I have nothing to gain...there will be NO hosts and no one will take the blame or the accolades for a great party except us....so I am hoping this is received in the good intention it is meant...thanks.
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honestly, I don't think you have any idea how hard parties like this are to host. First of all, the credibility of the host is critical because guests need to trust in your discretion. I'm not suggesting you are personally indiscreet. Simply that you're not a known quantity. And, as you've seen, certain rogue elements will do whatever they can to fuck up a party to which they are not invited. They failed completely to screw up the last party. But in that case the hosts were well-known and credible.
So I wish you luck and sympathize with your goal to make this a more congenial place. But I'll pass.
thank you and I agree...there are far too many members on this board that have agenda's...I am trying to shoot for like getting together with friends from work sort of party....And although you don't know who I am I assure you I have some clout but certainly see your point.
for this event NO ONE is being excluded. That's right everyone will be considered invited. Like I said I am not hosting. I will find a place. Give us all the prices to attend and payment would go directly to the establishment not to me...so even I won't know your real names. Get as many to attend as possible, and I have already questioned a few women who are down for it. Now the masquerade will help get those shy members to consider coming as no one will be able to ID their faces unless of course they decide to unmask themselves. Now if enough show interest I will certainly try to get some sort of private room for us to mingle separately from the rest of the occupants, I guess at the door or before the party we can identify some sort of item or tag that will identify us to our other members...maybe nametags with our handles....cheesy I know but this is off the cuff...
and for the trouble makers, there are enough, I would assume, better yet, I know they know who they are and would hope they would bow out gracefully and not attend or show up, being a man and a mensch, and act like an adult and have a good time and keep their agenda's in their pants. Now if they don't and this is a public establishment and only attended to cause trouble I will personally see to it that the club's security removes them. Now they could be smart and try to redeem themselves for their past indiscretions or they can be the usual assholes they are and be removed. Unfortunately not everyone in the world likes one another. If you, a general you, doesn't like someone all I can suggest is that you avoid that person...
And as an added bonus I assure you that I can get more than a few hot women to attend.
by stating " no one is being excluded" you're asking for trouble. It would mean the hobby's number one cretin ( you know the dick who outted all my personal info and included vicious lies about me then sent to everyone he could think of or worse, the party host who lost his job cause of his actions) would jump to attend cause no party host in his or hers right mind would invite him to their event. the result would be that 90% of the providers and at least half the gents wouldnt attend. But I sincerely wish you the best of luck
Cant imagine he'd respond to this at his hour cause all the libraries are closed
here is the deal with that....all of you know who the culprits are...the guest list is going to be individuals who do not hide behind an alias and is going to be made public. Since I am not sure who the trouble makers are I would look to you to tell me. If someone signs up that causes discomfort to many other members, not just "oh, I don't like that guy/girl", then I will respectfully request that he/she not attend. However, there is little I can do, as this is public gathering, and not private to stop them from paying and showing up.
United, I am certain that we can make them feel more than uncomfortable and they will either not attend know what is going to happen or get their heads out of their asses for one evening.
It is moot point anyways....1 person emailed me with interest. I guess like socialism, it is a great idea in theory, but just doesn't work in the real world.
I was trying to accomplish 3 things
First to do away with the M&G's of before where a single/group of hosts threw a party and had to live and die by their efforts
second make the party a little more hip...where we could attract some of the younger talent...young girls in this industry seem to want to party and not stand around chatting with a bunch of old farts...sorry I am part of the old fart group
and lastly unite this board. Overlook our petty differences and squabbles we've had and come to get as a group that shares a common interest...
Unfortunately it looks like I am going to have abandon the idea as little interest seem to surface with the exception of why it, respectfully, thank you, won't work or why it's not, respectfully again, thank you, the best idea.
too many before have gather us together, and not all, for the purpose of serving their own agenda....since I am just arranging for us to all get together and not hosting I have no agenda. There is no leverage I am trying to get. I'm just trying to get some people in the organization to meet others in the organization that would not have otherwise....thanks.
There are so many mis-conceptions in your plan I don't have the energy to list them. GED's comments are correct re the problem of bad actors, but it goes well beyond that. I've been to about a dozen M&Gs, both in New York and in Las Vegas and they are all run pretty much the same way in terms of screening and security. It's done for a reason: to protect the participants from LE and rogue members so everyone can relax and have a good time. The idea that this could be done in a space with civvies is unworkable. No one I know would go.
As the famous producer, Jack Warner, once said, "Include me out." Sorry, because I have no doubt you mean well.
PS: A smaller gathering might work. A friend of mine, also a M&G veteran, may arrange some small dinner gatherings of folks who know and like each other. That's an idea that's workable.
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You've got the Halloween Parade that is a huge draw, civi parties and sooo many bars and night clubs throwing parties. That's a lot of competition for attention on that night. Best you could probably do is say you'll be at a particular spot and invite some people and see who shows up in an impromptu way.
nyca
agreed however we are numerous...stronger than most organizations. Right now, again, I am just looking for a show of hands....and it is exactly what you said....WE are going to be here on Halloween for a Masquerade ball...if you would like to attend maybe payment to anywhere night club, New York City...if people want to attend they will...but I am not going to look for a place unless there is genuine interest. and again...I will not know who you are...you will be dealing with the establishment directly for payment so my lack of being well-known in this venue will not be relative....
again I emphasize that the success of the party will be in our hands and not any particular host and what they try so hard to arrange...
the trick here is to convince you all to drop your swords for a night, raise your glasses and enjoy some company of comrades....that's all I am trying to accomplish...maybe for once we can all be friendly put aside any differences and be adults...
And I am not insinuating anything....I just see how we act on this board and would like to see a change for the better...
from hippy years ??
even J Lenon was not so holly ..
any way It was sooo nice to read your postings about
" drop your swords for a night, raise your glasses and enjoy some company of comrades
one more thing...if you pm me in the day time I cannot respond until the evening...blocked at work and am not going to whip out my laptop and draw attention...so here's to hoping for success!
Yeah, that trumps all this.
nyca
CD, are you going to O_D's Vegas costume party? I know RG is. Now that's a party that's being done right. Top gals and no ass clowns.
I know close to a dozen of the ladies attending (so far), plus there are more coming into town for the fetish show at Hard Rock the following evening. It will be a fun week-end..
Hope you can make that one, too!
although half baked but whole hearted the Halloween get together has flaws. Major concern is the exclusion of any LE...I assure you I will not let the idea die...I will figure out something...to have a party where most can attend and without any hidden agendas....till then it was a nice effort by me..unfortunately it may not be this Halloween
and thank you for the insight and not bashing the idea and being adults...I was certain that this board is not as bad as it appears to be and it definitely calls for a get together of friends and like souls!
idea but I don't think we should be partying in the same venue with civies.
Hugs,
Bobbi