Seriously though, I am not sure what you are asking?
Do you want to ask these guys for more money after the fact, or do you want advice on how to end a session? Personally, I don't think you can ask for more money after the fact.The guy might be unaware of the time, expecting you to say when the session is over.
The guy might (optimistically) be thinking you are giving him extra time because you like him.
The guy might only have the money for the scheduled time. None of those are unreasonable. This is a business and part of the job is letting the client know when the time is up.
I always let the sessions go two to three hours and never ask for extra fee..how should I handle this?
How long of an appt are the gents requesting initially?Is it an hour appt that turns into 2-3hrs?
If so once the time is up and if you guys are having fun let him know time is up or over the time and would he like to extend his appt?He will either say yes or no.
But,if gents are booking an hour appt and time goes over by 2-3hrs and you don't say anything some guys will take advantage of it stay past the time and never offer any kind of compensation for the time he went over.
IMO,it is up to you be on top of time I am not saying be a clock-watcher but if the appt is going over by 2-3hrs you need to speak up.
Thanks Jay..I was deferring to them. I will be more clear.I would have been able to buy a house with all the extra time. I an done with this nonsense.
Thanks for info..amazing how many people read this...
I don't think it's fair to take peoples money and then say you don't take it seriously because it's not my real job. As far as your customers are concerned, they are paying full price and they deserve a professional experience from someone who does take it seriously.
Living in NYC I have seen many shows and bands and such. I have seen people who clearly had not rehearsed a lot, and sometimes screwed up the words to the song they were singing, and just blew it off like it was funny. If the show is free, I have nothing to complain about. But there is nothing more offensive than to pay good money to see something and have the performer blow it off because it's not important to them.
I know the analogy isn't perfect. I haven't seen you and I am not saying anything disparaging about your performance or your service. I am just addressing the content of the message you posted.
Whether it is your full time job or something you are just doing on the side, if you are going to charge the same rates as the professionals, then you should take it seriously and provide a professional level of service. And that includes, not just how you act during the session, but how you end it as well
Wow did you miss the point. I was merely trying to diffuse the concern over my giving too much. If you read my reviews they all say I am wonderful..and TAKING people’s money? I practcally am doing it for free,,that was the point of my post. People stay for 4 hours and pay only for the hour. My reviews all say that I am the most generous and kindest person that does this..You really need to figure out what is going on before you rant, And don’t take yourself so seriously, really, that doesn’t imply that you are doing the most accomplished and best job that you can. I hire a housekeeper before every client, buy them a gift, serve top wine and hor dourves,,I don’t like having to explain or defend the obvious here. I meant that I don’t take the fact that people stay for three or for hours and don’t pay me =that seriously. I am usually just happy to show them the best possible time they have had and that is what is written on every site.
Jeez—you are right though,,it came off wrong, people were wrting allsorts of things about feeling bad for me because of being taken advantage of so I was trying to simply make them feel better. This is akin to a Larry David moment. You try and do the most thoughtful thing and it is misunderstood.
I will be more clear in the future when my book comes out about this—just kidding.
Like I said, I don't know you and was not commenting on your level of service. Just on the idea behind the sentence.
I guess it's a pet peeve of mine. A lot of us have had experiences with girls who gave so-so service because they didn't think it was important. Which sucks for a guy who just blew his budget and can't see anyone else for a month.
Sorry if that came across wrong.
The duration of time a provider and hobbyist spend together is best decided through dialogue. You gotta come to an agreement how long & for how much. You have to talk about it, don't work on assumptions.
I appreciate the comment and of course that is done. However things change for whatever reason. You can screen -verify-agree-only use whitelisted people and still my friend there are people that don’t do what was agreed upon. You just have to hope for the best. This is illegal in our state so people think they can take advantage because you are an independant femaile without someone who has your back. I have thought I had a good sense of character, done everything I can to prevent this and it happens. I work full time in well regarded industry for a top company and these sort of things happen in the world, sometimes it is a contract that protects fraud, sometimes, as in the case when you are not covered by a corporation, then it is a handshake. It happens, I was just asking to hear what others thought was the most gracious and professional way to handle it. I like to keep things as if it is a real date and not nickel and dime over things. I always give an hour and a half because I like a slow pace and I tell them that in advance. Three hours and a nap and a shower etc become a problem, you have developed a friendship that is an ongoing thing with someone and just like you might have a friend who overstays and it is hard to set limits and also perserve the friendship, it is difficult here.
I will have to be more businesslike about things and I wish I didn’t. I have done this and then I lose a regular, sometimes I would rather keep someone I like and feel safe with who comes every week but takes an hour nap and then some on the house than have to have a stranger here. It is a hard call and I am going on and on but this stuff happens in personal and professional life. You need to consider all the aspects of it.
I hear you. You are real & true to your word. The reality is that people who get into this are so much into taking advantage & being self-centered. Am a hobbyist who has been taken advantage of coz I got your spirit. I don't rush. I give donation upfront & let things flow. However, escorts watch the clock, e.g. I gave 150 bucks then took it easy. After 30 minutes the lady said she is leaving coz its taking too long for me to get an erection?
wow..well I have a heart and I would never do anything. If it is a good client i would rather give my time over the clock for free and keep the client instead of high volume strangers..i love my clients and if there is as written in my review - a problem with an erection, i would do all I know to make sure everything that is possible is done.. Sometimes I will say, let's take a break , I think you are trying to hard because you are anxious about the time, i just want you to be happy, don't worry about anything...then approach differently, starting with a light massage, some sexy talk..more intimate moments, compliments..etc..it always works.sorry you had such a cruel person.
Melnotinhell for me getting an erection is a psychological process. When am connected to a provider it happens so easy coz my mind will let the body do it. There is a provider who will be with me briefly & am gonna get hard instantly. There are providers who will get naked for me & try so hard but it will take me longer. If a lady comes with some business attitude to get paid, screw, & leave I easily get turned off in my mind.
Seriously though, I am not sure what you are asking?
Do you want to ask these guys for more money after the fact, or do you want advice on how to end a session?
Personally, I don't think you can ask for more money after the fact.
The guy might be unaware of the time, expecting you to say when the session is over.
The guy might (optimistically) be thinking you are giving him extra time because you like him.
The guy might only have the money for the scheduled time.
None of those are unreasonable. This is a business and part of the job is letting the client know when the time is up.
How do most people handle this..once the initial envelope is put down..and hour is up..I have said,,oh so you want to stay longer and later when I brought up the fee they said they thought I was having such a great time that it was beyond that…that sort of nonsense..I am very shy about money. This is not by career so advice is needed and call me names, it is ok..a fool I am sometimes despite intelligence..I try and make it a seamless GFE,,then they think I really am their GF.
LOL. No one should call you names. Dealing with time and money is one of the harder aspects of the business.
One solution is simple to say "honey, our time is up. Would you like to take a shower before you go?"
However, the time of your session is what was scheduled. If someone wants a longer appointment, they can schedule it. I think it gets problematic when you say "oh, so you want to stay longer..." You should always act like you have an appointment that you need to get ready for. If you don't want people to think you are scheduling multiple appointments in a row you can always say you have non-work plans. But it sets a good precedent for guys to know that when they see you, it's for the scheduled time. And, if you want to let them stay a little over, that's your prerogative.
Even though this isn't your career, you are taking people's money, so you need to be professional. You may be shy about money, but if you want to do this then that's part of the gig and you have to learn not to be shy about the money.
If you really don't want to bring up the time, another option is to have someone call you when the time is up. Or set an automated service to do it. You can say that it's your assistant calling to let you know time is almost up
Sadly, your guys are taking advantage of you. It really should be on them to make sure they dont go way over there time. There will be times when you are enjoying a certain person's company and lose track of the time.
But most times I would guess, you are aware it has gone on long enough. I think for your personality type, giving "hints" is the best way to go. Getting dressed, standing up, saying how great of a time you had, walking over to the door if you have to, etc. That should all get the point across wihtout you having to actually ask him to leave. Just my 2 cents. Try that and see how it goes. Good luck!
This doesn't happen with agencies as they will call if time runs over. As an Indy you need to be on top of the time. That's why I thought maybe you can have someone call you say 15 min over?
Don't rush the hour, but always have an appointment or somewhere to be at at the end of your meeting. Overstayers will ask, do you have anything going on after our meeting? Oooooooohhhh the kiss of death question!
Yes, actually I have a (insert hair, nails, accupuncture, massage) appointment at X:XX and I can't miss it!
If they didn't ask that question, once you notice the hour is up, casually say, Oh wow I can't believe it's X:XX already. Did you want to extend our meeting? I've got to get to the (insert any place) before they close for the day.
have fun!
Serena x
Hi Mel ,
I would suggest to you one of a number of questions you can ask to soliciate the answers you are looking for .This is very helpful to both parties i think .
First you should ask questions you for the most part you know the answer to .
For example you know based on your booking info the gent requested 1 hr .
At a bit after your hr is clearly up you can ask , if you already know the answer of course ,
Oh I am sorry did we book two hours? now you know "we" didn't and this gives him the opportunity to say no we did not or no we did not and I would love to extend.
This is helpful because he knows he did not and he then does know and acknowledge his time is up himself rather than you saying OK times up ! Did I say I was offering the rest of your life special aka 3 hrs for the price of 1 ! lol this i wouldnt say
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It s entirely possible they have no idea you want them to go , they may feel very comfortable around you which speaks volumes as to your ability as a provider .It is also possibe you are being taken advantage of .
If this is not comfortable for you you can say can I offer you a shower before you head off? You are letting him know it's time to clean up your toys and play time is over while offering him to be clean and comfortable for whatever it is he has to do after doing you .
There are other question of course you can ask to get to the answers and be able to gracefully end your session without seeming in a rush to get rid of him .The thing is it maybe guys talk back channel , the word maybe out you do not know how to say good bye .
This is like maybe the only post i can think of where perhaps you should have used an alias for percisely that reason .I wish you luck and whatever you choose to say smile when you say it
Good luck , Kendall Lynn
My impression is that you seem to be OK with longer sessions (obviously you need to get paid for it). Just adjust you donation for the longer time. Many GFE providers have a minimum 90 minutes or even 2 hour sessions; especially the "low volume" ladies. Since this is your secondary profession this may be an option for you?
keep an eye on a timepiece out of the corner of your eye - if it's going hot and heavy, say something like you are so good - i can't take any more - if it's cuddling, just say mmmmmm...it's so nice to hold you - either way 10 minutes before the hour is up, say would you like to shower before you go? message sent
Wny? Is this an attack?
Mel your are bringing lots of intelligence to this. I love that coz most people say don't think too much about it just go ahead & have sex. But your are a provider who is having fun not just having sex.
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