Have made a couple of trips to Asian Massage Indies in Flushing.  (Low $$ and BBBJ's), but the trip out to Flushing is a drag and both of the massages I got were on the lame side).  Does anyone know of any sub $180/hr. Asian indies or small scale AMP's (like Cozy Spa) where a good massage and a BBBJ?

these are mutually exclusive categories. The idea of a BBBJ in an, um, downmarket environment is more creepy than exiting. A CBJ maybe with a good alcohol wipedown afterwards, but BB...

Good massage is one thing, good f/s is another thing, and I'd much prefer to pay well for one or the other than get a lame masage with a little extra.

There a cluster of good massage places in the midtown region where you get your full time's worth of real massage and some extra goodies to brighten your day that with tip and all works out to almost exactly one half of what you'd pay for "half service" a la corporate secret and they put a lot more muscle into the massage part...plus some of those asian girls know how to handle you ever so well... its a real art to know how to hold a penis with just the right amount of pressure... up there with the oral skill required for a good teabagging...

you always have a better time if you are known and you are known for generosity. So many guys think they are negotiating for fertilizer which is about the quality of the service they get.

seventhson:

Thanks for the reply, but I respectfully disagree that such cannot be had.  I see an older Asian provider whom I met in '97 when her place was still open.  LE in '99 and since then, she does outcall only from her apartment.  We became friends and she comes over monthly for an overnight visit that includes massage and BBBJ for $$.  Her massages are very good but not great but the BBBJ is amazing.  I even get freebies now and again.  It's a special situation and she tells me that I'm the only one that she BB's and rarely does CBJ.  (Since we're friends, I believe her).  With her, massage and HJ is one the house too (for me at least).

The problem is that I really don't find her physically attractive.  And, her massage style is a little too "soft" for my taste.

I also had an experience once at Cozy Spa that was close to what I'm looking for.  (See my review of 1/03 of Nina).  Nina is more attracive than my friend but her massage is again only OK, but she does give a "real" massage and I got BB on my first visit.

So, I think that what I'm looking for is out there but will take some hunting.  I was just wondering if any fellow hobbyists have any inside tracks out there.  From reviews that I've read on other boards, there appears to be a lot of indies in Flushing who work out of their apartments who can be rather reasonable and accomodating, but it's Flushing and these gals typically don't do outcall.

I've been doing the non-F/S AMP thing since '97 and have had good luck with many of the ladies but due to one reason or another the situations have proven to be short lived.  Many of these gals move around after about a year and you can loose contact if you don't get their cell number before they depart.

after trying every combination of services I believe this formula gives the best total satisfaction. Go to a enough legit place like WGS and get a good hour massage to relax and warm up but let them know you do want to take it all the way to release.
Think of it as high quality foreplay that relaxes and energizes. In my experience the best sex happens when there enough time to completely forget about the outside world and get back in touch with my body. In a typical hour of f/s I'm still unwinding for the first 15 minutes, so why no do the  unwinding with girls who know how to unwind a man ? Then, while you feel all springy and juicy head around the corner to Intimate Indulgence and let it all hang out ? There's a girl there called Bailey, petit little sweetie, she's a part timer but if you're she can give you a real aerobic workout. Top notch DFK, loves DATY as deep as you can go and CG like a sprinter. YOWZA !

Thanks again seventhson, but I'm looking 1 stop shopping so to speak. (Though BTW, is Bailey Asian?).  WGS is a bit too crowded for my taste; I like low-key where I typically don't run into any other guy and great service, GFE style.  I know that AMP's are very YMMV, but the right girl in the right place (like Aria for example) is the direction I'm thinking or an outright indie.