For the first time ever I was denied an appointment based on the content of my reviews. I wont mention the provider, but was wondering if this has happened to any other gentlemen.
Just a glance over your reviews showed me your low ratings for ladies who usually gets 9s.
A guy who always rates the ladies lower than others is perceived as a difficult or hard to please client.
Some ladies do not want to go through it. They work hard, go thru most of the acronyms and a review come up giving them a 7. It stands out like a sore thumb on a profile filled with 9s, right?
Many of you might say, her loss and move on. Plenty of fish in the sea.
That's true, but we think in the same way. Why see a guy with a critical eye when there are others who will be nicer and easier to please?
How did I know a provider would offer her two cents, when I specifically posed the question to the gentlemen on the board. I already understand why I was denied. As far as my lower ratings I give an honest review where I feel many providers have inflated reviews and I know for a fact that many will pester clients for giving them lower ratings than they think they deserve. My question was whether anyone else has been denied.
A guy who always rates the ladies lower than others is perceived as a difficult or hard to please client.
Some ladies do not want to go through it. They work hard, go thru most of the acronyms and a review come up giving them a 7. It stands out like a sore thumb on a profile filled with 9s, right?
Many of you might say, her loss and move on. Plenty of fish in the sea.
That's true, but we think in the same way. Why see a guy with a critical eye when there are others who will be nicer and easier to please?
Most of my reviews are Agency girls and agencies are no longer permitted to submit white lists. Others are not actual members so I cant get white listed by them. I am on Date check and have a number of providers who can provide verification for me, and I always hear back from the providers in question glowing recommendations, so you go figure.
If you havnt already, I suggest you ask to get some recommendations on datecheck. Ive seen hobbyiests with no TER whitelists if they at least have some okays or highly recommended's on the verification sites. Your scoring is mostly low numbers, and sometimes providers are going to turn you down for this. I think you will have better luck if you get recommendations on datecheck. When setting up an appointment you can mention datecheck and that you have recomendations there. This will go over better for you when booking. The fact is you score low and if you're content with the decisions you've made then thats all that matters. But you also have to respect when a lady chooses not to see you for that. Just as you have a right to score as you please, each provider has a right to choose their clients. Theres really no reason for anyone to be upset.
I was on way to see Genna and on my way walking to her hotel she tells me by text that we are not a good fit bc of my reviews!!! I am talking 5 minutes before my appointment!!! There are so many NYC based and touring ladies that i didn't care, just move on to the next one! BTW once you start hooking up with enough TER ladies they start introducing you to there friends and you won't even have time to be emailing anybody cold, if you don't want to!!!
I was trying to set up a first appointment with a top provider who checked my reviews and saw I'd seen a porn star, plus a well-known nympho/squirter. She said she wondered if we'd be a good fit if that was what I liked. I told her I liked all kinds of women and was sure I'd like her, too, based on her reviews. She said OK and we had a great session. I wonder if there might have been something you could have said that would have re-assured her?
Who is the well known nympho/squirter? Please, please tell
You have a PM.
"How did I know a provider would offer her two cents, when I specifically posed the question to the gentlemen on the board"
I can not imaginess why this would not be very sexy of a repsonse form you , can you?lol
This is hysterical thank you for making my day
PMA my friend PMA Good luck to you Lianna
I was nothing but polite in my correspondence. Now if she had said that based on my board posts she didnt want to see me, that would be a different story. I am not even totally convinced it was based on my level of reviews. If you actually read the reviews many times I have trouble getting to completion and that may have been what through her off. But yes most likely it was because she didnt want an honest reveiw, though she did have a 6 or two in her previous reviews.
He must be such a fun, loving client!
NOT!
When guys will realize that for some of us, ladies, is not all about being paid.
Wow. It is not OK for us to get nasty with a provider but is OK for them to get nasty with us?
All I can say is at least I am not hiding behind an alias. If you want to slam me do it with your real account so the board can see your true colors. As I have said, I have never had any complaints. I always treat the ladies with a lot of respect. If this is the provider who denied me then frankly I am happy because you are right, we would not be a good fit.
Also if you look at my reviews aside from Agencies who cant white list, many of them were from before White Listing was an option. And in response to another post her which I am sure was in jest, I have never offered to barter a good review for a lower cost session.
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I had only sent an initial query about setting up on appointment, but the lady told me based on my scoring history, she would not see me. She said that she ONLY wanted 9's at worse (and her reviews were all 9's and 10's) and really tried to make sure the men she saw would score her as such. I didn't sweat it, thanked her for the explanation and moved on.
Now, admittingly I used to grade a lot tougher. I learned over the years from many ladies, that the numbers FAR outweigh the actual content of the reviews. A lot of gentlemen will only look at the scores. So a review that says I had a great time and would see the lady again (which is the highest compliement you can give to a provider), may never be read by some hobbyists if the score of that review was only a 7/7. I always thought the words were more important than the numbers, but sadly, this is not the case.
If you're going to play the game of giving out your reviewing handle to providers, then you have to be prepared to get burned once in a while. Especially if you're an honest reviewer.
But you don't have to. You can hobby quite successfully without giving out your online identity. Of course, then you can't "trade" a good review for a lower price, and all the other nonsense that goes on in this industry. But it does allow you more freedom to review as you see fit. And to avoid getting into pissing matches with providers who can't believe you rated their services with anything under the "10" they believe that they always deserve.
I booked a provider after leaving a less-than-favorable review of another provider and she cancelled on me. I wrote her off as a flake and moved on to someone else. The next provider asked about it as well, and being the true lady she is, actually asked me about it, and listened to my response as to WHY I gave the score before making up her mind, rather than blowing me off. That woman later received a (well-earned) 9/9.
If someone is a 6 or a 7 and everyone rates them as such, then it shouldn't come as a surprise when I give them a similar rating. Accordingly, if you don't show your face in your pictures, or you have pictures that are not recent, then you (the provider) shouldn't be surprised when your ratings for appearance are all over the place.
The same goes for performance -- if you give a crappy show, then other clients should be warned to stay away. This is a business, not a charity. A hot body and a crappy performance should (correctly) receive a 9/2 or something similar.
I am not in the business of giving high ratings because someone else did too. If you give a less than excellent rating, the summary and juicy details are there so that other clients and potential clients can make informed decisions. That special piercing that knocked someone from a 9 to a 8 or 7 may not bother the next guy.
--BurtonBordeaux
I had this happen to me this spring. It was frustrating, but enlightening. The provider was kind enough to share with me the scale she uses, and why mine didn't align. It's discouraging, but it made me reevaluate my own scale and what is fair.
Like some, I didn't think I was a tough grader. I thought a 10 was only deserving of a once-in-a-lifetime PSE night with a legit model. Treating that 10 like I only had one to give away. Whereas an 8 was standard for a previous ATF—and she was amazing. My reviews are always honest, but I can now see how others would view my scores as low. In hindsight I wish I could go back and change my scores, and even some comments in my reviews. I have a greater respect for these ladies.
before I had stumbled across boards like this I set up my first appointment with a provider. I had no idea of the proper etiquette, hadn't done my research, and was stupid for not telling her it was my first time and I was nervous.
She came to room we talked she said I think your a cop and left, i tried to talk to her in parking lot but she backed out nearly running me over. I tried to talk to her on the phone a few times after that but she never returned my calls.
I learned my lesson the hard way, found boards like this, corrected my behavior, and eventually saw a few people. I contacted her about a year later explained what happened and that I had references. She was really my type and had a long history of good reviews, so I really wanted to see her.
I'm glad I was persistant, she agreed to see me, was the most through screening I have ever been through but was totally worth it in the end. I was a regular for a few years till she retired.
I don't know where the line is between being persistant and trying too hard, it's fuzzy and varies with the individual. If they know you are a "tough reviewer" I can see ladies not wanting to open that can of worms.
Unless the session was awful and I "took one for the team", I always ask if she would like a review. Some providers occasionally will ask me if I have a profile and can give a review. Some ladies like to keep a low profile, and having a review creates a "permanent record" if she has a boyfriend, husband, ex-husband/bf, or just has a delicate custody situation those lose ends can create problems.
if the lady says no, it's usually just best to move on, you don't want a reputation as a "problem" client. If she is someone you really want to see and has good reviews, try to see people she is friends with or takes referrals from. That can sometimes grease the wheels of progress.
Just don't be a creepy stalker dude ... life's too short for that kinda drama