It's hard to tell how many guys on this site are like me: fat, old, and in need of a little encouragement to keep things up. It is so bad for me that I have been doing the AMP thing for the past two months rather than suffer the indignity of being rejected, as I was, sadly, last night, once again.

It's not like I'm dirty, smelly, drunk, or nasty. Quite the opposite. I'm cleaner than most, hit the gym daily, and and clean-cut. But I work at a computer 19 hours a day, 7 days a week. It's like being a couch potato minus the fun stuff. So are guys in my position doomed?

I've searched for forum looking for similar posts like this but couldn't find the right keywords, so my questions are: do overweight, clean, nice, middle-aged guys who are struggling with their weak pulse represent the provider's worst nightmare? Or, are there sultry, twenty-something hotties out there that can make guys like us feel like life is worth living and if so, where do I find them?

I, for one, have not had much luck so far, but so desperately wish I could find that GFE that doesn't have a poor girl totally vomiting inside at the sight of me. I can't afford $700 an hour, but I'm not cheap either. If I have to save and do this 1x a month to just have a reason to keep on going, fine. But I am afraid to call any providers for fear I'll just be rejected or treated like a chump. It's very depressing!

Thoughts? (Be nice.)

I was hoping that it wasn't just me. Thanks for the input.

I'm not exactly George Clooney either, though I am slim and in shape, and I've seen lots of girls who had no problem with my looks in the $300-$500 range.  You might try Aphrodite Companions and talk to one of the phone girls about your issue so they can hook you up with a gal who'll treat you right.  Best of luck.

They want your $ and don't care about what you look like. They provide a SERVICE to anybody and everybody willing to pay. It's a GFE, but never get that confused that they like you. It's all about the coin

It is truely a shame that you have been having a hard time thus far. Myself and a couple other girls I know would be more then happy to have a friendly, clean and wonderful guy like you. You are more then welcome to come visit me. I Just cant believe youve not been being shown the respect you deserve. If you would like two girls, my friend gina and I both are very loving and doting women. We will show you the love and respect you deserve.

I saw you at the party. You are good looking eom

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Thanks for a concrete suggestion! I've been to their site, inicky46, and never pulled the trigger b/c I didn't want to throw my money away barking up the wrong tree. I'll spring for it and give it a go.

Hey Fates.... I''m 290, 6'1", and 48. When I was your age I was 185 and very fit. Got injured and glued to a desk since, so being a human panda isn't fun I remember going to places back in the '80s and '90s, they never had GFEs per se. Or if they did, I was naive I didn't know to look our for that kind of provider. I was just curious to see if anyone else on here was in my boots. Thanks for reiterating the value of Aphrodite. I really need a change from the AMPs.

I know, but haven't apparently found a true GFE yet, I guess. Even an hour of pretend affection would melt this cow.

Your photos looks beautiful Flora. You have beautiful eyes. I've bookmarked your page. Thanks for writing.

What makes things tough for girls are men who are late, inconsiderate, egotistical and lack personal hygiene. I have never heard a lady complain to me back channel that someone was too bald or too tummy generous or too old. They DO complain (myself included) about rude, obnoxious, smelly men though.
I wouldn't worry too much You don't sound like you fall under any of those categories.

As a fellow "Not in any way, shape or form in the George Clooney catagory" guy, I must tell you that my experiences have completely different from yours, and I suspect that your problem is caused by a combination of "looking for love in all the wrong places" and and some self-doubt about your image which is causing your experiences to be strained and unfulfilling.  As to the former, there are many really wonderful ladies who post on this board and whom I am sure would share a great time with you.  Hey, I see that Flora is offering herself, and she is both terrific and beautiful (and has a great accent to boot, to say nothing of the most amazing long hair, and a very talented skill set), so you already have one great alternative right there.

As to the later, I can tell you from experience that personality and self-confindence overcomes looks everyday, especially in the Hobby, and unlike looks that is something that you can develop.  If you don't wear self-doubt on your sleave, if you engage the lady, and if you try to make the experience fun for her as well, then you will have a GFE.  If you are awkward and unsure of yourself, then the lady will feel the tension and and be uncomfortable.  Trust me, a good provider wants to please, they take that task seriously, and they could care less about your physical attributes.  My suggestion to you is (1) be open with the lady if you are feeling insecure, but do it in a direct way and with a sense of humor, and (2) perhaps pay for a bit of extra time and start by meeting for a drink and conversation, treat it like a date, since ultimately that is what it should be, albeit without the tension and subtexts.  Good luck, and keep trying, and you will find your ATF, if not several.  And remember, like anything else it requires practice to get it right.

That's nice to hear. I'm just curious if I'm the only guy like me out there. I'm not just talking about the weight, but also the cycle of insecurity that goes with it, e.g., you arrive, smile at girl, she takes one look at you and you her and you think to yourself: "She's grossed out." It's almost a self-fulfilling prophesy where people can sense that. It's hard to unravel that when you go in after you've been through it a few times. I read the 'fat guy' thread in the FAQs, but it didn't really talk about the experience from a standpoint of being not only serviceable but able to perform b/c you (the guy) feel liked, wanted, etc. Just reading through threads where terms link didn't 'click' leave the customer in the end not being able to perform. I see quite a few guys have that issue, and I suppose that's why we see Cialis commercials on-air all day. (I try to be funny, jovial, and low-pressure. Being from the islands, I love water and am in the shower every chance I can get here in the city. It's just easy to get grungy here.

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What makes things tough for girls are men who are late, inconsiderate, egotistical and lack personal hygiene. I have never heard a lady complain to me back channel that someone was too bald or too tummy generous or too old. They DO complain (myself included) about rude, obnoxious, smelly men though.
I wouldn't worry too much You don't sound like you fall under any of those categories.

I"ve been with Samira and Penelope recently and both are really nice.

That you need a well respected provider who knows what she is doing and is not intimidating to you. A good provider will put you at ease, make you feel comfortable with her hence yourself and have you enjoy the session thoroughly with out all of the focuse being put on you. I mean nice conversation, playing, giving you a bit of a show. Making it a full, fun time together and you would be surprised what will happen.

FYI: I tried Aphrodite but am not quite ready for them yet. I need to get together with some newbie-friendly providers they said, but I will try them some day. Thanks for the suggestion.

Too bald and too tummy generous is okay?  NY legend, Stroke Guy will be thrilled to hear that!!  I may change his nickname at the office to "Tummy Generous."  LOL.

Thanks a mil SindeeNYC. In some ways this thread could be copied into the newbies section (as I am one, even if I have imbibed since I was a teenager and am now pushing 50), because there are probably a lot of guys like me out there that get into a AMP/KMP because we see these ads with hot young girls and our eyes pop out of our heads. Then we go, they ask for the donation (which is not much and certainly not enough for them to be motivated to, or compensated to do, GFEs), so they don't provide that. Now, I have always just assumed that when I went to a AMP/KMP/or indy, it was all going to be the same, and perhaps that's why I have never had a real GFE! So, while it may seem like I'm down on providers, I'm not; just ignorant to the fact that there are very different levels of providers and then, when it comes to the advice you've given, it would be reasonable to assume that there would be little chance of a negative outcome. In short, having read more and more reviews has been the most enlightening exercise for me and it might be the one thing that could help newbies like me better understand things because, believe it or not, there are people like me that can spend their entire adult life dreaming about pleasure and never finding it. Thanks for the input