i think the problem is bdj has such good rep that we are not used to girls like cj. i think so many ter users have used bdj and are used to a good experience that when a bad experience occurs they are upset and thrown for a loop. there are agencies
that have been around for a long time with little or no reviews (ter members stay away). yet, you can guarantee there will be reviews on bdj girls weekly on ter.
i only used bdj twice, but had a very good time. hopefully, they will remain 100 % GFE ONLY.
Do you know anything about CJ from Belle De Jour? I couldn’t find any reviews on her. Thanks.
Hoping to discover a hidden gem at a well reviewed agency, I saw CJ. Totally disappointed. She's not bad looking, but she was cold, rushed and disinterested with minimal service. Nothing close to the GFE in her bio. I should have waited for the reviews.
I think the business is getting too big, too disorganized. There are a lot of Eastern European refugees now, and the BDJ GFE assurance from the old days is gone.
Hi;
I had the same experience as you, I even wrote a review 2 days ago but for same strange reason it is still hasnt been posted. Ive checked the status and still shows up as new. So if the moderators would please acknowledge and accept the review it would help others out.....
I also wrote an honest and true review that apparently was not consistent with what others said about a certain provider and it was denied. I guess the moderators only put thru what they want and censor the rest. I don't know why I am writing this as it will probably not go thru either.
Does BDJ have so much clout with TER, they can get you to censor reviews that are not positive? Perhaps you might find out what actually happened to bosco42's review, so TER members know what's going on with BDJ.
Discussion Board moderators have no connection at all with TER reviews. Not only can't we do anything about reviews, we aren't even allowed to post our own. Imagine my frustration at times.
The philosophy behind this separation is that moderators need to be neutral and not influenced by anything except TER guidelines for posting here. Like levelling the playing field for all posters. So I can't answer your question, unfortunately. BTW, I sometimes have the same question as you.
You might want to send a Private Message to "Admin" and ask why your reviews were disallowed. This should be done by the reviews authors.
And please post the answer you receive here for us all. It may take some time for a reply to get to you. Good Luck.
F.
I did not mean to insinuate that it was about a BDJ provider. Because of the way BDJ operates ( see my post below ), I have stopped using them. It was about an indie, but I think everyone should be entitled to see it.
...It matters not. I try to treat all providers the same when it comes to these discussion boards.
F.
When I called BDJ to discuss my experience, I was disconnected twice, put on hold repeatedly, and finally, when I persisted, was told they were too busy taking more important calls. Those calls were from you guys, making new appointments.
They just moderate the boards.
Reviews are the job of other people.
Moderator - please correct me if I'm mistaken.
fr
first, then took time to check out reviews of new ladies even from reviewers like me who posted many reviews.
From my own experience, reviews about LA ladies usually have fastest response, then ladies in other major US cities such as Miami, SF and New York, then ladies in London and Other.
There are many who had suspicions about TER's motive about approving reviews. Generally speaking, review staffs usually just follow procedures to reduce the workload. They don't usually deal with policies such as delisted ladies, agencies, etc. That's why sometimes reviews got posted and then disappeared in a short time once Staff is alerted about the content and subject of a review.
We take unbelievable pride in exceeding YOUR expectations.
I had the same experience with CJ. The room was dark when I got there, like she wanted to hide. No BJ was offered. She bounced up and down fast to get me off as soon as possible, and ran off to the bathroom after I came. Then she suggested I clean up, and when I got out of the shower, she had her clothes back on and I sensed a from her body language that the session was over. I called the agency to complain, but they suggested the shortness of the encounter was because I wasn't aggressive enough in directing the girl. I think BDJ has brought in a lot of untrained/second-rate talent just to boost revenues. This is now the third new girl that has disappointed me, though they all have been pleasant and attractive. if you want a good experience, stick with the tried-and-true girls at BDJ.
Several weeks ago there was a similar thread complaining about BDJ and how it is run. This seems to be an ongoing trend at BDJ with many people having the same negative experience with the phone service and the providers. Remember, if KIM and the rest of the people that run this place are uncaring and rude in their dealings with their clients then the providers will take their cue from the "boss" and the "apple won't fall far from the tree". It's amazing to me that KIM never posted a response to the last thread and as of yet has not responded to this one. I guess they truly don't give a damn or she feels that by ignoring it, the problem will go away. The attitude at BDJ is unfair both to the clients and to the several good providers that try their best. I work too hard for my money so I know how I will deal with it. Maybe others reading this should use the big head to figure out what to do.
See my post above...Treat for NYC.
Cheers!
Please don't let this thread end here...
The availability of reviews both good and bad is what gives this
site its value. If the negative reviews are not posted it would seem impossible to even make your own evaluation and decision based on the reviews. Lets get a definitive answer on this questions. Thanks in advance.
Sorry about the delay but,first and foremost.. I have been very busy and did not know about this thread on CJ till yesterday when one of our clients emailed us about CJ's posts.
CJ is not represented as a 100 % GFE or even just GFE if you notice on her bio.
She is new to our site and is very stunning in person. We do not go over detail about the girls appointments with them, it is illegal to do so, I hope you can understand that part of this business. I also do hear like many of you guys do in day to day life 2 sides of every story.I did hear the same story from 2 clients this week, she finally told me she had a great time last time she was in NY and all the guys told me they really liked her.
This time she held back telling me she had problems @ home and she was sure that probably had a meaning to why she was so vacant on her dates in NYC this week.
But for the couple of guys who did not enjoy her company there were alot of guys who really enjoyed her before she got the bad news from home and was mentally under pressure.She should have went home but she did not,that was her mistake.
There are so many beautiful girls of BDJ that never get mentioned on this board as a great GFE but the one that is not and is not represented as a gfe gets bashed.On a site where over 90% of the girls are decent sweet girls doing their best,it is important to read the GFE notation and to let me know @ the appointment if you are not getting good vibes,you can walkout right there, call us and we will send you to another girl that you will be happier with.
The clients that were not happy with CJ,please call me before 10am and I will discount the next girl you see through BDJ.
In this business where it is hectic with phone calls, try to reach me as EARLY( BEFORE 9:30AM) as possible in the day and I will take care of the problem in a timely manner.
Once again sorry about the delay in responding but I am busy with these phones from 8 to 12am daily and I try very hard to get to each person but it is tough this week.I like to take calls early about issues and later about appointments.
Check out the other beautiful girls of BDJ, they are incredible to be with!
Thanks
Kim @ BDJ
954-650-3610
954-784-2255
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Very well put. I will add that I see many fine reviews and positive things mentioned about the BDJ gals. They are mentioned in the reviews, not on the boards usually.
FYI, I was supposed to see Tori a year ago in NYC but was cancelled out at the last minute. If Ivy visits LI, I may give BDJ one more shot. Most of the gals I prefer to try don't visit LI. Otherwise, I most likely would have tried your service.
Good luck Kim. I will say that you were very polite when we did speak.
i am the exact opposite of you. i want to see the girls from long island (eg karina & kennedy), but they do not travel to manhattan which is more convenient for me. oh well, that's life.
I would second that....
In ALL my dealings with Kim and the phone girls at BDJ, I have always been treated politely and with respect. Even once, when I had a complaint about a sub par experience with one of her providers, Kim was more than willing to make things right. I for one can personally attest to the fact that Kim is an EXTREMELY busy woman. She literally has little or no time to herself, dedicating her precious hours to her work. Her phone rings constantly, morning, noon, and night. Weekends and holidays too!!! We hobbyists are quite demanding of her and she does her best to make everyone happy. As with any buisness, one cannot expect perfection each and every time. Especially when a company such as BDJ is growing as fast as it is. They are going to experience their ups and downs just like eveyone else is. Just because there are a few "bad eggs" here and there (Believe me, Kims knows quite soon when she gets them), does not mean that the agency is suffering. The actions of those few are either corrected, or they are simply let go. I know Kim has no problem with that. After all it is her buisness and her reputation that is at stake. Maybe if we all stop directing our energy into looking at the negatives in an agency, it will be that much easier for all of us too see the good things that BDJ has to offer, like the core group of hard working providers that many of us consider ATF's.
As far as bad reviews not being posted, well, that has been an issue here time and time again. Moderators like Fortitude have no control over that. But, just briefly looking at some of the reviews of some of the BDJ providers, they are not immune to bad reviews either. So, the idea that BDJ has "Clout" or is favored by the Admins, is unwarranted and can be thrown out the window. I myself have had reviews denied for questionable reasons. I just chalked it up to a simple case of YMMV, depending on how the person who is checking your review is feeling that day.
One more thing...If you want to see one of BDJ's providers in a particular location, make some noise!! If enough of you feel the same way, I know Kim will make arrangements to make all of you happy.....
I can add that Kim has always been honest and fair. She has recommended my all time favorite. How can you go wrong if she says she will take care of an issue. You have to take her at her word since I havent seen any reviews telling me any different
in fairness, it is really hard to run an agency with many ladies and occasional new faces. Good helps are not always easy to find since that require a lot of trust on BDJ's part.
Things should be brought to other members' attention but let's not overblown things out of proportion.
Disclaimer: people who follow my posts over time should know that as far as BDJ's concern, I am sometimes a critic, sometimes a supporter, but all in the name of fair play and the welfare of both BDJ and fellow hobbyists.
Some of you are missing the point. It's not just some of the provider's that are a problem at BDJ. The problem is much more at the core. It is the way Kim and the other women who answer the phones treat their customers. They either have a nasty attitude, or say they will call you back and never do etc. As the customer I don't see them as doing me any favors, in fact it is quite the opposite. I am doing them the favor by giving them my business. Until they realize this things will not change at BDJ.
I want to say something about my experience with Belle De Jour. Made an appointment with Rachel, who use to work there. Arrived 10 minutes early and called. They said we'll call you back. Waited 20 more minutes in a cheap hotel parking lot. Called again. No answer. Called again. They finally picked up and said that they were having trouble getting in touch with Rachel and don't know what her room number is. They will call me back in one minute. After waiting 10 more minutes and not answering my call they finally picked up and said they think her cell phone is dead. I said well, I am cancelling then. They asked if they could call me back if they get in touch with her. I said no, I can't wait in a hotel parking lot all night. They said sorry, didn't offer anyone different and they never called me back once while I was waitng. While BDJ has beautiful girls, the are sometimes hit and miss. While the phone girl wasn't rude, she wasn't helpful. I haven't been back there since and found another agency that is more customer friendly.
My sentiments exact GC although I've had overall,very good experiences.
Let me state that I started out in this hobby utilizing Kim's services and to tell all the truth, I have not had a bad experience.I was delayed the first time in seeing Jill but no major problem as the lounge was very comfortable. In many ways, you have to take the good with the bad at BDJ. The good being really beautiful girls at very reasonable $$$. The bad being that sometimes high volume gets in the way and that could muck up the works if one of the lovelies all of a sudden comes up with a migraine or a disturbing call from home comes in during the schedule.SHIT happens! I wil say that I found Kim to be very reasonable on the phone and as she has stated here on this board, if there is a problem, call and discuss it with her.She will do the right thing.
I also agree that BDJ is in the service business and that there should be no allowance for rudeness or curt remarks on the part of their phone representatives.If its happening, this needs to be corrected... although I'm sure that last minute hobbyist(s) cancellations sometimes throw them off and skew their feelings but hell its part of the business and should be no excuse.
Finally, no alias on any of these message boards should have the last say on these message boards although I will agree that their point of view they represent(actual member) or comments
should be considered and responded to by actual members. It was also actually good to hear from the agency on this matter.Hopefully, this thread will make them better.
Safe and happy hobbying!
Cheers!
-- Modified on 2/15/2004 7:00:13 AM
i think the problem is bdj has such good rep that we are not used to girls like cj. i think so many ter users have used bdj and are used to a good experience that when a bad experience occurs they are upset and thrown for a loop. there are agencies
that have been around for a long time with little or no reviews (ter members stay away). yet, you can guarantee there will be reviews on bdj girls weekly on ter.
i only used bdj twice, but had a very good time. hopefully, they will remain 100 % GFE ONLY.