New York

BBFS BAD IDEA!!!
Old_Topic 1173 reads
posted
1 / 12

I personally know 10 or more top rated providers who offer it in NYC.  I'm not talking about Back Page girls either. I'm talking about $400-$1000/Hr girls who get 10s on TER for performance ratings. More agencies are offering it too.

With AIDS on the decline & a horrible economy (borderline Depression due to Obama), many girls are offering it, and more guys are partaking. There are always people who will take risks, and board lectures won't change that.

Old_Topic 912 reads
posted
2 / 12
OctaviaNyc_NJ See my TER Reviews 3692 reads
posted
3 / 12

You let him back and already he is annoying several of the non-annoying posters. Why, why why????  Things were much better without HIM! Please put him on NOTICE or Moderate him.

That being said I wanted to repost this: This was from the Chicago board by the lovely lady Sinful. I felt it is a great read!


There seems to be a marked increase lately in gentlemen who are requesting bbfs or who are attempting the slip-in-slide.  For those who do not know what slip-in-slide is, it removal of the cover during the session in attempt to penetrate without protection.  My immediate reaction is WTF?  Are these guys crazy?

Here are my thoughts, and I hope others will chime in.

* Contrary to what some of these guys think, a bbbj is not the same as bbfs.  So using the logic, "well you do a bj uncovered, its the same thing" is ludicrous.  However, several ladies have indicated that this is what they have been told by clients.

* Are these guys so caught up in the passion that they are willing to risk catching an STD (and bringing that home to their SO) or worse yet, losing their lives?  

* Do these guys think that they are "special?"  Putting it bluntly, if a lady agrees to see you BB because you are "special," don't believe it.  I would venture to guess that all of her clients are just as special.  In other words, if she sees you without a cover, she sees others without a cover and the potential risk to you is staggering.  You may as well sleep with all of her clients and anyone they have slept with since any of them can pass on an STD to you.

Many of these guys who request BBFS don't just let it end there.  In the past, simply saying "NO" was enough.  These days, many then try to remove the cover during the session after their request has been turned down.

Nothing ruins the mood of the appointment more than a lady who has to keep checking to see if the protection remains on as she unable to relax and enjoy herself.  Instead she must be on guard for the remainder of the appointment.

I also saw in a previous post by a noted hobbyist that some gents, if they don't get their way, then write a less than stellar review of the lady in retaliation.  What's with that?  Punishing a lady for maintaining a level head and keeping you safe.  

This is not limited to new hobbyists either.  Some ladies have indicated that longtime RS2K members, with no prior black marks on their record, have asked for this.  

New hobbyists may simply not understand the risk.  Established hobbyists certainly know better.

If a provider is good at what she does, she leaves the client with the impression that he spent time with his real girlfriend.  In other words, the girl friend he would like to have.  One who is tender, affectionate, sexy and good in the sack.  This is because a good provider enjoys her liasons and it shows.  However, she is not your girlfriend.  You are not in a monogamous relationship with her.  As great as it feels, and as much as she enjoys her time with you, its still a business for her.

For those guys who think no one will know about their actions, you are sadly mistaken.  

*First of all, the ladies do talk.  Its not like we have a weekly "stitch-n-bitch" and discuss our clients.  However, we do share information about unsafe clients among ourselves.  

*Plus there are local and national blacklists for unsafe clients.

and

*If you are a member of RS2K, there is an option for providers to make a report to Cathy about unsafe clients and this info is maintained in your record.  

So, guys, lets all be safe and use our big head.  I know it sounds exciting to have bbfs.  However, it is no longer safe to do so.  Even thrlll seekers wear a parachute before jumping out of a plane.  

Anyone who would like to add to this post, from either a hobbyist or client perspective is welcomed (and encouraged) to do so.

HootOwl 49 Reviews 996 reads
posted
4 / 12
carpetmuncher 71 Reviews 1748 reads
posted
5 / 12

I won't say who they are, but more than a few providers with a few agencies are now offering BBFS as part of the menu.

I agree with Octavia...the idea that you are someone special only getting that service is ludicrous.  Most of the girls who offer it will do it simply because they can charge more, and because they didn't live through the '80s when people were visibly dying horribly of AIDS-related complications.  Remember the pics of people covered in purple splotches (Kopi's sarcoma)?  This generation looks at HIV as being something that's so far removed that even if they do get it, it's a manageable, chronic disease.  Nonsense!

As I told one provider who offered it, "Would making an extra million dollars be worth it if your test came back positive?"

I can only say to everyone...be smart and safe.

Posted By: OctaviaNyc_NJ
You let him back and already he is annoying several of the non-annoying posters. Why, why why????  Things were much better without HIM! Please put him on NOTICE or Moderate him.

That being said I wanted to repost this: This was from the Chicago board by the lovely lady Sinful. I felt it is a great read!


There seems to be a marked increase lately in gentlemen who are requesting bbfs or who are attempting the slip-in-slide.  For those who do not know what slip-in-slide is, it removal of the cover during the session in attempt to penetrate without protection.  My immediate reaction is WTF?  Are these guys crazy?

Here are my thoughts, and I hope others will chime in.

* Contrary to what some of these guys think, a bbbj is not the same as bbfs.  So using the logic, "well you do a bj uncovered, its the same thing" is ludicrous.  However, several ladies have indicated that this is what they have been told by clients.

* Are these guys so caught up in the passion that they are willing to risk catching an STD (and bringing that home to their SO) or worse yet, losing their lives?  

* Do these guys think that they are "special?"  Putting it bluntly, if a lady agrees to see you BB because you are "special," don't believe it.  I would venture to guess that all of her clients are just as special.  In other words, if she sees you without a cover, she sees others without a cover and the potential risk to you is staggering.  You may as well sleep with all of her clients and anyone they have slept with since any of them can pass on an STD to you.

Many of these guys who request BBFS don't just let it end there.  In the past, simply saying "NO" was enough.  These days, many then try to remove the cover during the session after their request has been turned down.

Nothing ruins the mood of the appointment more than a lady who has to keep checking to see if the protection remains on as she unable to relax and enjoy herself.  Instead she must be on guard for the remainder of the appointment.

I also saw in a previous post by a noted hobbyist that some gents, if they don't get their way, then write a less than stellar review of the lady in retaliation.  What's with that?  Punishing a lady for maintaining a level head and keeping you safe.  

This is not limited to new hobbyists either.  Some ladies have indicated that longtime RS2K members, with no prior black marks on their record, have asked for this.  

New hobbyists may simply not understand the risk.  Established hobbyists certainly know better.

If a provider is good at what she does, she leaves the client with the impression that he spent time with his real girlfriend.  In other words, the girl friend he would like to have.  One who is tender, affectionate, sexy and good in the sack.  This is because a good provider enjoys her liasons and it shows.  However, she is not your girlfriend.  You are not in a monogamous relationship with her.  As great as it feels, and as much as she enjoys her time with you, its still a business for her.

For those guys who think no one will know about their actions, you are sadly mistaken.  

*First of all, the ladies do talk.  Its not like we have a weekly "stitch-n-bitch" and discuss our clients.  However, we do share information about unsafe clients among ourselves.  

*Plus there are local and national blacklists for unsafe clients.

and

*If you are a member of RS2K, there is an option for providers to make a report to Cathy about unsafe clients and this info is maintained in your record.  

So, guys, lets all be safe and use our big head.  I know it sounds exciting to have bbfs.  However, it is no longer safe to do so.  Even thrlll seekers wear a parachute before jumping out of a plane.  

Anyone who would like to add to this post, from either a hobbyist or client perspective is welcomed (and encouraged) to do so.

carpetmuncher 71 Reviews 1350 reads
posted
6 / 12

That might be the most informative post I have ever read on the subject.  This should be reposted in TER history.

SS425 1015 reads
posted
7 / 12

Many...not all of course but enough of   the highest rated Ladies offer it. I am not going to condone or condemn what 2 consenting Adults agree too..thats their business and if its OK with them I am not going to judge.  Many Porn Stars will do it if you bring a current AIM test results , this of course is mutually agreed with the 2 parties. Just beware of the risks.

KiannaNYC See my TER Reviews 1123 reads
posted
8 / 12

One of the reasons why I think the bbfs are increasing is the economy, they think because of this bad economy the provider is willing to take anything and everything from their clients even a disease. The GFE thing is sometimes taken so literally, like I have guys that they even get jealous.. Hello? even with my regulars that i truly adore have no bbfs is allowed. Sorry guys but It's anoying and a turn off
xoxo
K

ToProtectTheInnocent 4372 reads
posted
9 / 12

I get emails from a particular "agency" telling me a provider is bbfs.  Sure it's tempting, but it's also nuts.  We probably take enough of a chance when we DATY, but BBFS is a no.  As other's have said the provider is doing the same thing with who knows how many guys.  I've even gotten an email where it's noted that the provider is BBFS but she isn't on the pill so she requests you pull out before cumming.  WTF, she doesn't use any birth control?  Paternity suit here I come.

And in the straight world dating life don't you use a condom until you've agreed to be monogamous.  Or when your married have you never used a condom.  Be safe.

carpetmuncher 71 Reviews 1334 reads
posted
10 / 12

I think I know the agency you're talking about.  If they are pretty new, then we are probably thinking about the same one.

Agreed.  Very bad idea.

Posted By: ToProtectTheInnocent
I get emails from a particular "agency" telling me a provider is bbfs.  Sure it's tempting, but it's also nuts.  We probably take enough of a chance when we DATY, but BBFS is a no.  As other's have said the provider is doing the same thing with who knows how many guys.  I've even gotten an email where it's noted that the provider is BBFS but she isn't on the pill so she requests you pull out before cumming.  WTF, she doesn't use any birth control?  Paternity suit here I come.

And in the straight world dating life don't you use a condom until you've agreed to be monogamous.  Or when your married have you never used a condom.  Be safe.

MisterDobalena 1024 reads
posted
11 / 12

...so perhaps it's just one more thing to jump from there to here from, like the Spoken Tongue, Benny Hill and a World Class Empire!

hueyfan 40 Reviews 1029 reads
posted
12 / 12

This was quite a while ago but there was one lady I was on a date with that did offer it (heat of the moment kind of thing).  I told her thanks but no thanks.  Too risky and I always play safe, period.

Another fellow hobbyist told me that he has taken a couple of ladies up on the offer.  To each his own.  I don't judge (heck look at the hobby we are all a part of).  Not for me.

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