If a woman blacklists you, provided that is all she does, the worst that can happen is you don't get to have sex as often. If you out a woman who you claim does this serially, you could put her life in danger.
Do you have a brain? Or chose not to use it.There has been a lot of talk on here lately about blacklisting, and what it means to us hobbyist
But what about the providers who are blacklisting us ?
Maybe it is time we start outing the blacklisters
Is that allowed here ? I know of atleast two serial blacklister
Anyone you meet could blacklist you. Don't try to out them - just respect that the girls here need a way to communicate risk to others. If they blacklist for the wrong reasons, then I think you are SOL. Perhaps the provider community has a way of policing that. But I can promise you that having guys out black listers is not going to be a positive force for change.
Is that you could blacklist him if you had an email or number, which you could get from a provider.
It's an imperfect system, as a lady says below, but your dismissal is oversimplifying the issue.
If a woman blacklists you, provided that is all she does, the worst that can happen is you don't get to have sex as often. If you out a woman who you claim does this serially, you could put her life in danger.
Do you have a brain? Or chose not to use it.
You are saying then it is ok just deal with it when you get blacklisted for no reason then?
I can not agree , there has to be some sense of responsibility here from both sides
If I am blacklisted because a review, a good review is not good enough and the provider does not like lets say a 7/9 I should just say I deserve being blacklisted and live with it ?
Reviews here disappear sometimes when a provider complains enough our info stays on hose sites forever
And to be clear I meant to just reveal there TER id no more
Obviously, there's a problem if you're being blacklisted for a very small reason or "no reason" at all. However, how often does that happen? In the entire scheme of things, do you think it's a common practice or just bitter because it happened to you? As for your example of writing a 7/9 review and getting blacklisted, I'll go out on a limb that happens with Top 10/100 women? So you've either experienced this or are just going based on it being a talked about topic on here, that they can be BSC. However, that isn't a common practice, otherwise the industry would quickly crumble. You can't use that one scenario to justify what you're calling for.
Responsibility from both sides? I would agree if it was a level playing field, but this is not. Like I said, you get blacklisted, provided that's all you get, you are going to contact other women and they're going to say "no, I can't see you." You'll keep trying with others, and you'll eventually find someone because blacklists can cost money to be part of, and not all women may use them. They are fragmented.
So you mention that so and so ID 235251 (that's mine) has a tendency to blacklist guys, and someone may want to teach me a lesson. If that happens, do you want you to be the indirect cause of that. Sometimes you can create harm without even knowing it, you have to look at both sides and see whether the consequences to one group is the same as the consequences for another.
Most providers don't blacklist just because they feel like it. Providers want to make money, so if you make it on a blacklist it's most likely because you screwed up, wasted her time, seemed dangerous, etc.
The worst that can happen to you guys is the girl isn't as attractive as her pics, to us girls the worst that can happen is us getting beat up, robbed, or killed.
Seriously.. use your brain -_-
Although the worst for us actually is being robbed, not just getting a fugly date. It's happened personally to me once and I've heard many stories.
The worst that can happen to you if you're blacklisted is that someone robs you?
I think you mean the worst that can happen in general participating in this activity is you get robbed?
I think the worst that can happen to both genders doing this activity is getting killed, sorry, that's too somber I know.
She starts even below where I start, which is that in general, the worst a john experiences in this business practically is ending up with a fugly girl. I counterargue that practically, it's a ROB (we always capitalize that on our side). Yes, theoretically, getting killed as a john is a possibility but it's not really a concern in practice for us guys.
Wow, I'm so sorry to hear that happened to you. Thanks for the insight though from the other side of the fence.
I do not agree with the reasoning behind most blacklisted clients and I will see those with BS infractions such as being late, timewaster, etc. Blacklists were created to keep providers safe and they do a good job of it, just last week I received a request from someone who was blacklisted multiple time for forced sodomy and him being blacklisted saved me from being violated.
The OP goes to an issue that you do not address, though kudos for ignoring bs blacklisting reasons.
Based on recent discussions on various boards, our beef is that there is too little accountability for the blacklister.
Anyone for any reason can post a blacklist, including an angry SO and hobbyist.
This can cause problems for the target, although this has not happened to me. But I'm sure if I said all the things I do under my main handle, someone would try it.
That all said, I do not agree with the OP that outing the blacklister is the way to go. I think if the sites actually verified the poster as a provider, which TER does but sites like NBL clearly do not do, this would help the problem a great deal.
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My problem lies in false reports being made, why does it seem the attitude is just don't worry about it?
If a provider is filing a false report because of a rating she did not like , even if the rating is good why should we just smile and walk away.
I would like to think most reviews filed here are fair according to that persons experience shouldn't that carry thru to the providers responsibility when she files a report. Let's forget , he was late or never showed I am talking a bout a damaging report and that person info being published.
No one is looking to see someone get hurt here, but if we are going to file reviews here and people scream that they should be fair and real why should the same courteous be extended when someone thinks about blacklisting someone
You think a false report about you being a douche bag compares to some guy falsely describing he had anal sex with you or came in your mouth twice?
Maybe someone reads that and they think it's ok for them to do that and you say no and then they ask you why, you let so and so do it.
Grow a pair.
If you were dumb enough to be blacklisted by someone you paid a whole lot of money to have sex with, don't take it out and think every woman is like that. There's a world out there, outside of your sorry one.
and clueless, I only have my words. And yes, where has your attitude gone. Get it together man.
And I love Elaine. I'm not even bi and I'd do her. Those curls...
Everyone gets a holiday, unless for my Maim list.
And I do think you're more in the right here than the OP. I only wish, out of principle, the lists were more accountable for verifying a provider is doing the listing.
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sorry maybe I dont undertand here. are you mad because a false blacklisting, or because the amount of times a provider placklists? are you mad that they can blacklist at all?
I am trying to understand in detail what you are having a problem with, as your post started with outing ladies who blacklist regularly.
I am not part of the system as I am not in the usa. I just wish to understand the post.
thanks
I am upset by false black listings, when someone can ruin your reputation because she does not like a fair review, if you review someone with a 7/9 where nothing negative was stated , is that a reason to create a false report and blacklist someone. Some here complain about the providers safety but if she is so intent on needing good reviews and blacklists someone over just a low score and does it over and over there is a problem. No one wants to see anyone hurt , but blacklisting goes beyond this hobby these days and a cell number or a email address checked during a job interview could turn these thing up very easily. As far as my comment on outing someone it was perhaps a poor choice of words, but if I have been blacklisted unfairly , shouldn't I also be able to mention my accusers ter handle if she feels she can publish my information