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an out come the broad sweeping strawman rationalizations...........confused_smile
Iwantyouwecanhititupthefloor 2 Reviews 849 reads
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BBFS carries a FAR greater risk of STD transmisssion versus CFS with BBBJ & DATY.

BJ4ever1751 reads

Anyone know of girls in NYC that do BBFS? i have met a couple already but know there must be more. If so, please PM me. Yes I know many of you disagree with this practice but ultimately I make my own choices in life so please don't judge. All info is confidential.

Bareback-in-Athens1039 reads

There are many around that advertise here that will do it.

bbfsWatchDog1277 reads

I suggest that you use the search engines, bing,yahoo, and google. You will find a lot. Your mind will be blown.

PhilAsheo837 reads

potentially spreading a non-curable disease to all of us.  

So yeah, it's your life. But that's only because you don't care about yourself or anyone else you come into contact with.  

The Invisible Man695 reads

Many STD's are spreadable by BBBJ and DATY.  And, condoms aren't perfect either.

If you are engaging in this hobby, no matter how safely you try to do it, you are engaged in a high risk activity and it's hypocritical to put all the blame on those who engage in bbfs.

If you are so paranoid about your health, then don't fuck strangers.

Ancient_Hobbyist1079 reads

Many many moons ago (like 20 yrs ago) I caught "curable" things on 2 occasions from BBBJ and on one occasion from DATY, and yes a week of antibiotics fixed me up...

Does anyone think about the risks involved in crossing the street and getting hit by a car?   riding the subway and being sneezed on and coughed on by sick people?   going to the gym and getting a heart attack?  drowning at the beach?   getting shot by a drug addict while picking up condoms at the pharmacy so you can have CFS?

I cross the street, ride the subway, go to the gym, etc, more times in a week than I do do BBFS with a provider in a whole year (twice at best)

Take it for what it's worth...


BBFS carries a FAR greater risk of STD transmisssion versus CFS with BBBJ & DATY.

The Invisible Man778 reads

It's not a rationalization.  It's a fact.  We all engage in risky behavior.  You are no saint.  it's just a matter of how much risk each person is willing to accept.

If you don't want to do it, then don't do it, but you are in no position to judge anyone else.

PhilAsheo685 reads

Nice try dude, keep spinin it.  

Yeah, STD's are spreadable from BBBJ and DATY, but there has to be some blood transmission for HIV.

I am paranoid about BBFS ... and so are the majority of providers here.  Too bad they're being silent on this!

Well, I for one will definitely say this:
DISEASE IS NOT ATTRACTIVE and those who think it's FUN to grow fungus on your cocks/vaginas are obviously dumb-asses. Why play Russian Roulette with your life (ie. S/O, your children and your ultimate HEALTH?) My lord, those who partake in this insane chance of getting HIV, and other sexually related diseases truly are sad sacks (oh, and pregnancy is such a TURN-ON!) . To actually look for those who don't use protection is asinine beyond comprehension. To those who DON'T CARE (and you know who you are) I pray for your souls and wish you would care enough about yourself to be SAFE. Much love,
xoxoxooxoxo
Chloe

Posted By: PhilAsheo
Nice try dude, keep spinin it.  

Yeah, STD's are spreadable from BBBJ and DATY, but there has to be some blood transmission for HIV.

I am paranoid about BBFS ... and so are the majority of providers here.  Too bad they're being silent on this!

The Invisible Man1399 reads

I want everyone to be safe.  I don't recommend bbfs to anyone.  But sticking your head in the sand and thinking you are safer that those "russian roulette" players is a joke.  You are playing russian roulette too.

Your reviews state that you allow CIM.  The information that you posted states that there is some risk of HIV transmission in that manner.  While it may be considered relatively low risk, that risk is magnified by the number of partners.  

Statistically speaking, there is a 10x greater chance of getting infected with HIV through vaginal intercourse than by giving a BJ.  That's it.  Just 10 times.  And transmission female to male is half as likely.  

If a guy sees 1 girl a month for BBFS, it's the same risk as an escort who sees 5 clients a month.  

That's it.  Those are real, actual, published statistics.  

Don't engage in behavior that you think is unsafe, but also don't think you are all high and mighty and better than those who make different choices.

Ahhh...yes....the ALIAS has come to my rescue and all others that LOOK for unprotected sex. I completely respect your 'spin' on this topic but I wasn't pretending to be the saviour of all - I was passionately wishing that those who look for unprotected sex (which is 10x greater chance of infection) ask themselves why they want to have TEN times the greater chance rather than a 'very minor' chance with oral sex.  I get what you are saying and I am not in any belittling anyone (if Russian Roulette is your thing with vaginal sex then go for it. I am not your mommy and I'm certainly not one for you to get upset with). Oh, and get this - at least I show myself while you tend to hide behind your rock. Come forward Mister (or Miss) Invisible Man (wow...perfect name for you!) Have a FABULOUS day and watch out for smoking guns....cheers!
Chloe

Posted By: The Invisible Man
I want everyone to be safe.  I don't recommend bbfs to anyone.  But sticking your head in the sand and thinking you are safer that those "russian roulette" players is a joke.  You are playing russian roulette too.

Your reviews state that you allow CIM.  The information that you posted states that there is some risk of HIV transmission in that manner.  While it may be considered relatively low risk, that risk is magnified by the number of partners.  

Statistically speaking, there is a 10x greater chance of getting infected with HIV through vaginal intercourse than by giving a BJ.  That's it.  Just 10 times.  And transmission female to male is half as likely.  

If a guy sees 1 girl a month for BBFS, it's the same risk as an escort who sees 5 clients a month.  

That's it.  Those are real, actual, published statistics.  

Don't engage in behavior that you think is unsafe, but also don't think you are all high and mighty and better than those who make different choices.

The Invisible Man715 reads

The majority of posters here are viciously critical of anyone who doesn't say "all people who partake of BBFS should be shot on site."  I have a differing opinion, and I believe I have expressed it cogently.

The reason I can state my opinion is because I can do so anonymously.  Without the alias, I would be harassed and blacklisted, despite the fact that, at no point have I said I partake of the activity.  I simply don't think that we should be judging others.  

I am curious.  Why do you think I should unmask myself?  What exactly is the upside?

Babe, why would I judge? I just think that if you partake in unprotected sex you can add to the chaos of those who just don't care. I am more so looking out for those who do it actively not those who just think people can do whatever they want. Yes, I get that free choice is apparent but putting others at risk to me doesn't make sense. Regarding your alias, I find it difficult  for you to be taken seriously if you really are not one to partake. In any case, I hear you and what you say, and with that I respect your voice.
Much love,
Chloe

but remember that, in THIS arena, your "life choices" can have a profound effect on many, many others.

The Invisible Man547 reads

He might not have a girlfriend.  Or, he may be, like many of us, in a completely sexless marriage.


Obviously, the safest way to go is to enter the Monastery and stay there. Almost as safe would be to go to an appointment in a wet suit with a steam cleaner. However, it is foolish to state that BBBJ or cunnilingus present as much health risk as BBFS. And if he has neither girlfriend nor willing wife, tough - we all make our own beds. Do what 75% of all American males do every night - either go to a bar or jerk off.

The Invisible Man663 reads

You are misunderstanding.  I am not defending any specific activity.  I am not saying that people should do BBFS.  What I am saying is that they have the right to take the increased risk, if they want to, just like you have the right to engage in BBBJ and DATY with escorts, which is an increased risk over standard civilian behavior.

I don't think anyone here is high and mighty enough to have the right to judge anyone else.  

Actually, I don't think anyone in the world is high and mighty enough to judge anyone else.

Do you think any civilian would have the right to say to you that instead of seeing escorts, you should "Do what 75% of all American males do every night - either go to a bar or jerk off."

BJ4ever618 reads

Agree, but since i have neither a GF or wife, by choice, then my life....my choice.. I simply decided that a GF or wife relationship is just too much overhead in my life. I have been there already. i recognize the risk and accept it because i have no significant other. I know many people here think I am crazy but the risk is mine. Thank you to those who understand it is about choice. There are many people who choose to smoke and they kill themselves with cancer. Granted you can't pass that to others but you can cause great pain to your wife or family when you die prematurely and perhaps leave them in poverty. Don't you have a responsibility in that case? it is all about choice and last time i looked we live in a democracy.

!drunkenCaucasian479 reads

It's up to us to decide how much risk is too much. Cover your own crotch and stop worrying who is not covering theirs.

CHEERS
DC

How is HIV Transmitted?

HIV can be transmitted from an infected person to another through:

Blood (including menstrual blood)
Semen
Vaginal secretions
Breast milk
Blood contains the highest concentration of the virus, followed by semen, followed by vaginal fluids, followed by breast milk.

* Activities That Allow HIV Transmission

Unprotected sexual contact
Direct blood contact, including injection drug needles, blood transfusions, accidents in health care settings or certain blood products
Mother to baby (before or during birth, or through breast milk)
Sexual intercourse (vaginal and anal): In the genitals and the rectum, HIV may infect the mucous membranes directly or enter through cuts and sores caused during intercourse (many of which would be unnoticed). Vaginal and anal intercourse is a high-risk practice.

Oral sex (mouth-penis, mouth-vagina): The mouth is an inhospitable environment for HIV (in semen, vaginal fluid or blood), meaning the risk of HIV transmission through the throat, gums, and oral membranes is lower than through vaginal or anal membranes. There are however, documented cases where HIV was transmitted orally, so we can’t say that getting HIV-infected semen, vaginal fluid or blood in the mouth is without risk. However, oral sex is considered a low risk practice.

Sharing injection needles: An injection needle can pass blood directly from one person’s bloodstream to another. It is a very efficient way to transmit a blood-borne virus. Sharing needles is considered a high-risk practice.

Mother to Child: It is possible for an HIV-infected mother to pass the virus directly before or during birth, or through breast milk. Breast milk contains HIV, and while small amounts of breast milk do not pose significant threat of infection to adults, it is a viable means of transmission to infants.

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Tears
Sweat
Feces
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