Being somewhat of veteran here I was dismayed to learn a well known provider admitted publicly that she uses illegal substances while working.

I find this fact appauling and can say that I take this very seriously.  I would never see anyone who was using and if I became aware of it I would immediately demand my donation returned and run as fast as I can.  I would never see that provider ever again and would want advice others to the do the same.  For our own peace of mind, safety and protection I hope we would all do the same!!

I take my career and profession very seriously and feel behavior like this should not be toleated under any circumstances.  I have talked to several great ladies over the years and know that they feel that being a professional, having integrity and are so very important. I hope everyone will agree with me on this.

As much as I concur with your stance, the reality remains. Some of the ladies do indulge, for whatever reason -- addiction, obsession, support mechanism.

If a woman has got to get "primed-up" to see a gent, perhaps she's in this business for the wrong reasons. It is bad enough that commercial companionship might be considered illegal. Does it have to be further complicated by drug usage?

Just my .02,

Ody

lmao.

Being the child of hippie parents, I am very benign in my use. I do fancy a brownie on occasion, but I have been known to forget what I ate when I wake up. Not so great for my girlish figure. One of my favorite clients has this great saying: "If noone saw it, it didn't happen."  I have been known to eat a whole cube of raw tofu when I get those munchies fierce! I don't trust crystal meth addicts, speed freaks, and coke people are just plain mean. Alcohol and pot diminishes my performance, and I just get too sleepy.  I don't feel any more sexy or horny, I just feel like napping. I have encountered a lot of hobbiests who need to get high, and it is not Viagra. It was more common when I worked for an agency.  You can tell people to change but they won't. They have to hit rock bottom.

I think that there is a big difference between a provider being accused of doing drugs and a provider that admits that she does drugs. One is speculation while the other is fact. I agree that this is both unprofessional and unsafe. Can an escort under the influence properly verify new clients? Can she tell that the guy that walked in was a police officer? How safe is she really while she is under the influence? Did she offer BBFS to the last guy that walked in the door? Did she properly clean herself for your appointment? Too many questions arise that may not have an answer that is to our liking.

There are plenty of girls that are professional(and sober) that are willing to take our money. I will never even go near another provider that is even linked to being a drug user. Even if it is just a rumor, I will stay away.

-- Modified on 6/24/2004 12:28:17 PM

Although St. Paul might find drug use amongst providers  "appauling", it still is spelled with two "L's" and no "u", although you might be appalled, as well. I was not when a well-known but flakey provider asked if I minded if she swallowed a tab of Ecstasy at the beginning of our session.  She did, and became more mellow, almost feline, in her sexual activity over the course of what was to be originally one hour but spilled over closer to two hours. Similarly, a ravishing European independent provider --and a truly independent spirit--often smoked hashish after I would come the first time during a session, but before the second cup.  As long as they ask before a session and it does not interfere, I do not mind. Why, I usually bring my drug of choice--a bottle of cordon bleu Remy or Hennessy Cognac (French spelling)--to my sessions.

I often have a glass of wine when I meet a friend.  Yes, this IS a drug.  If I meet someone early in the day, I often have a mocha on my way over.  This is also a drug.  Even with these supposedly benign (i.e., socially acceptable) drugs, I treat them as such and moderate my consumption for that very reason.

While I cannot condone addicts and those who NEED their substances, and would never recommend to a friend a lady that I know is an abuser...
the zero tolerance has got to end in our country.
(... ah, so hard... but I will forgo the political ranting)

If a lady is out of control, it will show in her reviews, and her ability to maintain professionalism in her communications with you.  If a lady just prefers a brownie to a glass of wine...
who am I to judge?  What about smokers, boycott them too?

Substance snobbery.
Pick your poison, or tee-total.  
(shrug)
Either side could easily judge and damn the other... but why?

Compassion.
Education.
Trust your instincts and play safe.

No further comment.

Cheers!

I don't have a problem spelling just typing captyve.  My opinion is that it is dangerous and not right.  Last time I checked alcohol is a legal and permissable thing that is meant to be enjoyed within reason.  Did I spell anything wrong here, or maybe it's did I stutter...

i couldnt agree more im sure ive been with providers who party but i didnt know about it i will not see a girl who does drugs let alone brag about in an open forum. she must of been on something at the time if you need to get high to do your job maybe they should look for another career

Last time I checked, prostitution was illegal...

Although I would not put up with any other drugs. Half my office has a pot break now and then.  I'm not sure I would like to be with a provider who was carrying. It bad enough if the LE arrived without having a drug charge.  So I'd have to agree with the group.  What I'm saying is outside the hobby I have no problem with pot.  I don't think most of you will disagree with me.

-- Modified on 6/24/2004 7:41:29 PM

-- Modified on 6/25/2004 4:28:21 AM

Unfortunately, A lot of providers do drugs. I don't know why, but maybe they need something to help them cope with the fact that they are providers.

I see a provider because I want to have sex and that's it. I personally don't care what these girls do outside the 1 or 2 hours that I'm with them. I don't agree with their drug problems, but it's not my business. As long as they provide us with what we're paying for and as long as they don't do it in front of us, then who cares. Providers are adults and they have to make their own decision about what they do in their private lives. I'm not talking about pot here; i'm talking about hard drugs including prescription drugs which is now a huge problem in the U.S., possibly a bigger problem than all others.
Unfortunately, most drug addicts need to hit rock bottom before they will get help.
AJ

Energizer Bunny,

As a "$200 an hour" provider, I find your comments quite offensive.

Just because I charge less then $300 an hour, it does not mean I am a drug user, nor does it mean that I need drugs to get through a session.

Furthermore,it does not mean that my service is any less than that of a $300 an hour girl.

And sometimes you do NOT get what you pay for.

(Refer to above reviews of a $300 an hour escort)

I just got the full implication. Some of us judge one illegal activity but not another?

So in another lifetime I was a protein biochemist. (Long story) I got one of degrees, which involved taking classes watching rats fuck their brains out and taking 3-week seminars on neurobiology of THC. I tried it the first time when I was 30, and only after I knew every little bit about its action on g proteins did I try something of the Alaskan hydroponic variety. I was pretty bummed, not what I expected. Roll tape forward a bit. I suffer from a personal disaster, and shrink puts me on the heavy ant-depressants. Sometimes they don't work as well as they should. Rather than get stronger stuff that would kill all opportunity of an orgasm, I sometimes self medicate on days off. All goodies are stashed in separate location. I am not trying to get anyone in trouble. I couldn't imagine doing a session high. I am too much of a control freak in bed. The last thing I want is to get nabbed traveling through airports, so I am not "packing" other than more toys than I can carry up those damn subway stairs. However, if you give me a brownie after the session, it will be put to good use. Just take the mini-bar key so I don't do any damage.

Please accept my apoligies..I also deleted my prior message.

Just because I saw a $250 an hour escort that was under the influence, I should not categorize all escorts in that dollar range. My comments were certainly not geared towards you. I hear wonderful things about you from my buddy Santino Corleone.
From what he says you can suck the chrome off a fender. If that is the case, then you are ok in my book.

-- Modified on 6/25/2004 4:31:08 AM

Got milk?


Cheers!

You took my smart alec comments well.  I have to admit that when I was in the Army, one of my sergeants told the men in my platoon to avoid pot and "..just get drunk like the Good Lord intended you to do."  Just as no one would object to your refusing to have a session with a provider who smokes, no one should object to your refusing to have a session with a provider who takes drugs.  Interestingly enough, it was only recently when I had a session with a provider who smoked was I aware at how sensitive non-smokers have become to the smell of even old cigarette smoke.

Anyone who needs a needle to get their jollies is someone to stay far, far away from since stuff like heroin smacks of unsafe sex and used hypodermics are a leading spreader of AIDS.  Other than skin-popping, whatever floats your boat is fine with me.   But I'm a former mushroom-eating child of the '70s.

Would you consider a provider who takes Xanax, Ambiem, Valuumes, Rohypno or any of several other barbiturates before a session just as appalling?

Would you be equally appalled at the rate of providers who have been sexually abused as children?

Would you consider not seeing any of them?

If so, then you must not see to many providers in this business.

Practically every women involved in this line of business has probably dabbled a bit in any of a variety of things that help make sleeping with strange men that much more tolerable.

Or is this thread just about slamming someone in particular?

Thanks Man I am real trooper, aren't I?  I am allergic (did I spell this right?)to smoke and won't visit a provider if I know she smokes.  No offense to anyone here just my personal opinion.  Enough Said.

So if that is what you call it? Then just imagine the LE implications when you are charged with two offenses.  I won't let that happen to me.  The narotics charge will really hurt alot more than being a hobbyist, trust me.  Good luck to you dude.

You have seen lot of escorts under the influence, or you haven't seen a whole lot of escorts.

I can name several members of your beloved Belle de Jour who were under the influence on several of my meetings with them. There are also more than a few reviews on Jill being under the influence of alcohol for which it made her service all that much better.

Or are some of you going to claim that alcohol is not or is less of a drug than a joint?

Let me tell you, I've seen many a women pass out from having one too many glasses of Pinot Giorgio, than a few lousy puffs on some California gold.

I applaud Vanessa, SolaLove and the others who stood op to the shenanigans going on in this thread, by a bunch of guys whose only intention was to slander a known provider here.

Since I started this thread, I don't recall anyone mentioning names.  If you are so worried you shouldn't post with an alias.

But anyone with half a brain who saw the deleted thread, knows exactly who you are talking about.

Irregardless, If you think most girls don't numb themselves before a session, you're in a serious state of denial.

Unlike the person we may (or may not) be talking about, I personally have met several girls who are professional and don't need to numb themselves before a session!  If you are in need of a fix you seriously need to get a grip and clean up your act. Good Luck.

There is a big difference between numbing oneself up and being so under the influence that one is not able to perform up to standard. Also, the poison that one may use is also a question.
A glass of wine is much different than sniffing an illegal substance. Just my 2 cents.

EB,



Would you be willing to say the same thing if I told you how "out of it" some of the BDJ girls were when I saw them?

When I arrived in the room at my appointed time, two girls were partying rather heavily. I didn't write this in my review because that particular session went rather well as I was granted the company of both lovely ladies for the price of one. But on a completely separate occasion another girl who was obviously under the influence was nodding out on whatever she was on.

So I'll ask you again, are you willing to condemn these actions from your favorite agency?


If not then go back to shilling for Belle de Jour.

why are you attacking energizer bunny under an alias if you have something to say say it without an alias because in my opinion it looks like you are the provider theyre talking about who was under the influence. so why dont dont you reveal yourself and stop hiding at least he had the ball to out the provider under his name without using an alias and you continue to bash bdjs girls under an alias why not reveal yourself and be more credible cause when you attack under an alias even if the things you say are true you look like your full of s...

We all know who I smell a rat really is. I guess she figured she would try to pull a fast one on us. It's such a shame.

You have no clue who I am.


I am not a provider.


I am someone who knows a rat when I see one.


And this board is full of Shauna's rats.

This is a common mistake. A real TROUPER was a professional entertainer in a TROUPE of performers, especially: "a real trouper was a person who can be relied on to show team spirit in all circumstances" , from the New Lexicon Webster's Dictionary of the English Languagce, Encyclopedic Edition, 1990.