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Am I being fair? (long read)
lailanyc See my TER Reviews 1211 reads
posted
1 / 19

I already have my mind set and I just touched on the topic on my personal blog but I wanted other opinions, especially from other hobbyists.
My dilemma is that it seems to be a trend for men to request additional photos before even booking an appointment. I can't tell you the amount of times men have said things like : "can i get a few sexy photos to keep you on my mind?" (insert creepy winky face afterward). I've even had men ask for a personal video and all before confirming an appointment, not to mention these same men don't want to submit info to be screened.
My issue is that I have tons of photos around (on my professional website, my personal blog, and my twitter page), two reviews that both confirm that I look like my photos (if not better), and I try to post candids every week. If you're contacting me that means we plan on meeting in person anyway, I've already impressed you enough for you to consider an appointment so why try to push personal boundaries, especially since a lot of you give us such a hard time about screening. I have no issue with agreeing to a coffee date for my potential client's ease of mind, but thats as far as I will go.
My take is that a lot of hobbyists seem to want to feel special, which I understand to a degree. They don't want pictures everyone else has seen but I'm confused as to why the men who do this think they are entitled to anything extra. Photoshoots cost enough money already, not to mention the time I invest trying to take constant candids and working on creating gifs/videos that won't reveal my real identity.
Anywho, I know I've ranted but i want to hear other peoples take on this. Hobbyists and providers please leave your feedback so I can come to a outcome that will make everyone happy :)

-- Modified on 2/5/2014 2:44:48 PM

VOO-doo 692 reads
posted
2 / 19

why worry about them?  

These are non-clients. They've never seen you...probably won't ever see you...and probably were never going to see you. So who cares what they think?

Even if they were verified...or, even if they were existing clients, I'd say the same thing...I've refused requests from existing clients to send personal photos of myself and even my pet. There was just no good reason for it and it made me uncomfortable. I've also acquiesced a few times if the client just wants a simple momento...so YMMV.

Generally, I don't think this is a normal request. We have sites and ads for a reason. If we had other material to share...we'd put it on our sites. The men who are bothering you for this sh** are just bored and horny and probably can't even afford an hour of your time (or are too cheap to pay for it). They are trying to get attention and stimulation for free.

Just say, 'The things I'm comfortable sharing are on my site/blog/ads, please take a look' and call it a day...save your time and sanity for the men who'll actually be paying you for your time.

JadaMonroe See my TER Reviews 607 reads
posted
3 / 19

this is what some hobbyist do... i learned the ones who ask for pics,  when i have tons, shows they are b.s. you around. When i started the business, i used to fall for it, I've learned its a game, some like the chit chat and making you think they're serious then they'll flake, hell i found my old phone from my first few months and what do you know a lot of those people who just text then STILL do JUST that NOW... its sad but i just update my pictures as much as possible and direct them to my site  

maybe a 10-sec clip of you on your site and you can direct them there for it so you have 1 legit video for everyone. Or do what another girl does, charge them for Skype session 15min - 20$ etc etc te

lailanyc See my TER Reviews 636 reads
posted
4 / 19

I agree completely, especially about not worrying about clients that aren't verified, and refuse to become so
I just wanted to check and see if I was the only one
As an independent, i feel like its more of an "to each his own" scenario, i figured that because I literally get this request once a week from different clients maybe there are other providers who are more lenient and that i may have been overreacting.
I do realize there are a lot of bait and switch situations and I do my best to prove that Im not one of those girls so I don't fault men for being cautious, but the men I've come into contact with have crossed the line. As i mentioned, I am a lot more forthcoming and laid back with regulars but I really just posted this to get a glimpse of the mindset of men who ask this. I honestly think some of them don't know that this offends and annoy us. Honestly, we can't really complain about this being an ongoing thing if someone doesn't speak up about it.
I will definitely use your advice though, and thank you for letting me know that I'm not crazy for being annoyed by this :

Cosette 677 reads
posted
5 / 19

Who hosts your site? I was very happy to find out the company that hosts my site was coming out with a "Member's Area", that can be locked up and access granted on a person per person basis.

It's still a bit quirky but so far it's working out, the people I've seen before have access to it, and the people who want to see me I've granted access. If it doesn't work out and we don't meet, I can easily remove access.

Having this has finally encouraged me to invest in pictures next month.

Sorry if I sound like an advertisement, I get excited with a new product that actually adds value.

lailanyc See my TER Reviews 537 reads
posted
6 / 19

thats actually a really good idea, my site is hosted by wordpress but i will try and see if i can follow that format
as for videos, i just made a vine account solely for my provider personna, so if i get any further inquiries about videos, i will direct them there
if thats not good enough than tough luck
thanks again to everyone who shared their input :)

AnotherDonJohn 728 reads
posted
7 / 19

The world of T-R hobbyists (a work in progress so feel free to add or comment):
90% are idiots
75% act like newbies (only 25% are actually new)
75% don't know they're idiots (not completely overlapping with newbies)
50% want more of a "connection" with the provider than they deserve for the money they spend
15% don't act like newbies, but are still fools when it comes to women and life
10% are creeps (misogynists, etc.)
1% are dangerous creeps

Obviously, I'm being provocative before I really respond, but there's a note of truth to my "world" (although I'll grant my numbers are made up).

The punchline is that the guys who want extra pictures or "extra" anything outside a business relationship or transaction like screening likely fall into one of those categories above. If he's not questioning your pictures, then it's up to you how you typically brand your business or market to more valuable clients, which could include your pictures. Your pictures are an operating expense you need to leverage. Like someone said, some people keep a premium members/VIP area in their website.

Btw, don't lose hope completely in us, because in this made-up world of mine:
10% are actually pretty good guys (we ALL want to believe we're one of these. lol)
1% are actually "dateable" IRL (another discussion altogether, which has been broached on the GD board and behind the "Walls").

We do well when we play our cards right here and IRL. (ADJ's V day  message and pic

Pavliena See my TER Reviews 549 reads
posted
8 / 19

Yes it is what I find out as well  
:). And why when I say 90 % are idiots and only 10 % are good men  
Why do get in the trouble and under the fire when I state same facts?  
Hard learned lessons... For few years I do escort ,,, I did learn that the best lovers and florists never will push on sending such pics it can be turn off actually for gentlemen when lady sent vulgar pics before appointment  
And vulgarity for everybody has different definition ... I love send pics tell you true but only I am booked and prepaid and we are connecting well via emails why not ?! But not before booking as my booking will depend on that ... No ! Low and manipulative manners

whitneywilcoxx See my TER Reviews 489 reads
posted
9 / 19

I think guys asking for additional photos is kind of expected on some level though. Part of what's being paid for is looks and guys get catfished, so to speak,  in this business. I've met 2 girls in the past 2 years who were not the girl in the pictures on their site.  

Most guys are cool if you tell them you don't give additional photos.

I know this isn't the case every time, just giving one point here.  

Cheers.  

Whi

biduolounge 489 reads
posted
10 / 19

people asking for that are time wasters pics collector only. they make you believe they want to see you to get photos or videos of you.  

I personally don't send anything. I have a website full of photos and info so that is more than enough. if they want something to remind them of the date after we met, I allow them to film r and photograph our time together ( condition attached)

Jacque_Jenesais See my TER Reviews 558 reads
posted
11 / 19

.. and I'm assuming you have already provided all they need to know on your website. What makes them think they're special enough that you would personally send them pictures?

My #1 pet-peeve. Asking for sexy pics.

By the way. I think I'm going to call a couple porn stars and ask them for necked selfies. I'll let you know how that goes. ;)

AnotherDonJohn 489 reads
posted
12 / 19
lailanyc See my TER Reviews 536 reads
posted
13 / 19

taking that into consideration, thats why i try to upload candids on my personal blog and on my twitter
but to be honest men are so scared of coming into a bait and switch situation that they lose common sense
any provider who heavily uses social media like twitter, blogs, etc probably isn't a b&s , it wouldn't make sense
I'm one of those providers so I'm confused as to why men use that excuse
a simple coffee date before the appointment should suffice but thats not even necessary most of the time
I've found that the more pictures we have, the more they want
as i mentioned its not even precaution, lots of hobbyists just want to feel special and have images/videos that no one else has
sadly, they don't realize that we owe them no such thing, and that they should at least pay for the privilege
as for the percentages, i don't think 90% of men on this site are idiots but they are self entitled as hell, you can see that in most of the reviews on here
it makes it really hard to do our jobs sometimes

TrulyMsMocha See my TER Reviews 508 reads
posted
14 / 19

... that asked for extra pics (aside from what was in my ads and on my website) that wasn't a  F.O.S. pic collector. *side-eye*

allniteloong 64 Reviews 591 reads
posted
15 / 19

I think im pretty normal too and there have been a few too many old pics or fake pics even from big agencies.  So another pic or 2 can help me verify if they are all the same woman.

u can keep your privacy and security without blocking your whole face.

side note what about the providers that ask for clients picture

lailanyc See my TER Reviews 411 reads
posted
16 / 19

Posted By: allniteloong
I think im pretty normal too and there have been a few too many old pics or fake pics even from big agencies.  So another pic or 2 can help me verify if they are all the same woman.  
   
 u can keep your privacy and security without blocking your whole face.  
   
 side note what about the providers that ask for clients picture!  
   
 
I have NEVER met a provider who demanded or even have asked from pics from clients. sending a pic is an option on my website but i have never ever asked for one. that topic doesn't even bare discussion since its super rare and no smart provider would do that especially considering the trouble you all give us about screening
also, if you come across a provider with old pictures I understand wanting more but she doesn't have to comply (especially if it still accurately depicts what she looks like). just find another provider with more pictures. again that doesn't bare discussion because we are discussing providers (like myself) who have a ton of pictures on various websites, etc. despite a lot of providers having lots of new pictures, there is always a demand for more and

AnotherDonJohn 587 reads
posted
19 / 19
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