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crunchyredapple 1 Reviews 4982 reads
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hey everyone, i just figured out i could get here via vpn. i'm a very recent vip member and newbie (jul 2017) who's wondering, well, what now?? i just came across Waterclone's thread where it was mentioned a lot of the veterans here have left or are leaving, and honestly with the loss of TER and the reddit subforums like r/hookers and r/escorts i don't know where else i can find any reliable guidance in this hobby. other than p411 (which isn't really a discussion board) would someone happen to know where everyone's going to or at least pm some resources?? thank you so much!!!

greek_geek 46 Reviews 320 reads
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I’d love to know as well!

MicD 329 Reviews 268 reads
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Glad I noted my top fave's deets before this happened, but need to renew the list!

JakeFromStateFarm 263 reads
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TER is not telling us anything about what they think or will do, which is understandable under the circumstances. We can only assume the owners don't intend to let a valuable business remain in a death spiral.  So they must be working on a plan to either sell out or reconfigure the business to minimize any legal risks.  What that means or when anything may happen is anybody's guess.

BenneeProfane 98 Reviews 255 reads
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People are using other vehicles to find each other. I created a Twitter account with a hobby ID and a Switter account. Through them, I am seeing posts from ladies about their schedules. And a lot of pleasant pictures. But limited information about activities and rates.

A couple of other hobby boards that have discussion about the NY metro area have survived - one of them suddenly has a couple of provider ads daily when before April, it had maybe one a week. The board made some changes, such as limiting the content of reviews.

And a few advertising boards are emerging to try and fill in the BP void -- there are mostly spam and low-end ads, but I have seen some reputable ladies posting, too.

hannecharmante 283 reads
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Many directories have been around awhile, and are gaining traction in the new climate. Start using search engines to find ladies you like. If a lady carefully manages her persona across platforms, that's a good sign she is serious about providing a good service and her clientele. Follow her Twitter feed to get a glimpse of their personality.

There are competing sites we can't mention here that still have reviews. Some gals are determined to keep their TER profile, so they've changed their home base to a city outside the USA. An area code search will generate results.

Keep your P411 membership. All the ladies there have been vetted, so at the very least, you know she's not a fly-by-night operation.

Bottom line is, you'll have to use your own judgement to find somebody you like. Honestly, if you keep your bullshit detector finely tuned, you'll have just as good results if not better. Reviews aren't the be-all and end-all of finding a quality service provider, and they are often embellished or outright fake.

10v3sf3114t10 100 Reviews 255 reads
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7 / 32

In the absence of U.S. reviews, I have decided to shift more of my mongering overseas, specifically to Latin America, such as Costa Rica, my next destination. I had been moving increasingly in that direction before this FESTA/SOSTA business anyway, and the disappearance of U.S. reviews will push me further in that direction. In my opinion, one of the few advantages of mongering in the U.S., aside from convenience, was the review system. It not only provided data on past performance but motivated providers to continue to perform well in the future due to the accountability that it created. Without reviews, domestic mongering is no longer competitive, as I am better off overseas, where I pay significantly lower and more flexible rates with (IMHO) hotter and more sexually charged Latina providers at I can "meet & greet" on demand and assess in person. Whenever I cannot travel, I rely on the domestic Sugar Bowl instead, since many of the girls there are effectively providers without reviews anyway. Without the accountability of the review system, the only incentive for providers to perform well is the desire for repeat business, which, IMHO is stronger in the Sugar Bowl because the girls do not want to feel like hookers and the male:female ratio is less advantageous for them than it is in the hobby world.

wrps07 251 reads
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Yes they don't have reviews, but have been well worth the risk.  I have meet 2 new unreviewed providers since the fosta crackdown, turned out to be good experience. Both of them never heard of TER and they only have ads every once in a while. I am seeing prices listed, unlike before.  Saving ads everyday. Many from cl and bp are coming out the wood works. A couple have asked me to see some of their friends that are utr.

SoftlySarah See my TER Reviews 261 reads
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I've been meeting lots of interesting people on twitter and switter. Seems like networks are popping up on these places, and guys are sharing info behind the scenes much like they do (or did) here. Get a hobby twitter account!

Follow me @Softly_Sarah on both twitter and switter.

sitaradevi See my TER Reviews 268 reads
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10 / 32

Hi All-Yes, in this challenging climate it is hard to find places online to connect. Yet word of mouth and Twitter are good places to learn about a lady and see what she is about.  
You can find me on Twitter @sexysitaradevi

Sitara Devi

Real_Couple See my TER Reviews 265 reads
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11 / 32

We agree that Twitter can be a great place to network and learn. Switter.at is also becoming a good connection place.

You can find us on both sites through @RealVIPCouple

Tori & Nick

trax1 23 Reviews 281 reads
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It seems that any provider who "relocates" to a non US home base, their history all comes back, and new reviews will post.  That is of course, after you figure out a VPN option.  Discussion boards are still worthwhile, if very quiet given the thin participation.

TurbayVeronica See my TER Reviews 280 reads
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Johnnycade 28 Reviews 319 reads
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Latin America is fine and all, but Toronto is ridiculously good for hobbying.  I’m from a part of the US where the local providers are generally older and heavier than I care to pay for, so I started doing the majority of my hobbying in Toronto.  The agencies are huge and numerous, and packed with young attractive women; the independents are good too.  And the prices are better than the US, and after the exchange rate they are a steal.  More recently I’ve been coming across girls from the US that go to Toronto for part of the year to work, cause LE isn’t always after them. Toronto is a hobbyists dream.  Also, they’re local review boards are up and running, and they’re free!

JayMan1955 13 Reviews 278 reads
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I have found lots of ladies at;
Switter.at
It’s a free offshore twitter like forum which is SW friendly. http://switter.at

Anneke See my TER Reviews 270 reads
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One option you might consider gents....those of us who provide AND do adult films.  It's a first hand view of the look and the services available without the risk  in asking what we might do.  At least it always has been in my case.  

This is how many have found me lately.  From my films, twitter and switter but MAINLY through the search engines.  It doesn't take long to figure out that someone who has a strong internet presence is probably also a provider of excellence.  While it's not a guarantee it's highly likely.  

I'm finding that guys don't want to take the time to even go to the website link OR read an ad.  In the "good old days" of searching on your computer you did your homework.  Few can be bothered to take the time now with smart phones.  Hopefully, those of you here haven't  stopped your research and screening to find the right girl.  From both sides, ours and yours, it will insure a fabulous experience.

FashionModelNY 287 reads
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there is new social media out there

oliviatwisted See my TER Reviews 316 reads
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I agree with what Anneke said about how much things have changed and sadly, have gotten worse.    Many potential new client who have reached out to me refuse to be screened and given the climate, it is surprising.  This leads me to believe that despite all of the rhetoric out there from both providers and clients about the importance of screening, those protocols have become very lax.

Personally, it is definitely time for me to change my strategy, get more creative and move towards SEO.  It feels like the state of advertising now is like shooting fish in a barrel.  

I havent really harnessed the potential of switter but it feels to me like most guys are just lurking, depending on your locale.  Like any new platform there is enthusiasm at first but then it can wane.  

Am I the only one who feels that way? lol

Charliekingny 317 reads
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There are so many great people to meet and you can find us on twitter

LondonJames See my TER Reviews 256 reads
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I have found that often enough it is the ladies, gentlemen, & couples that lurk that more often book if they find you via Twitter or Switter! I think about those people who are at social functions but are off in the corner watching everything. It's like that - they notice all the nuances about us. It's rather fascinating.  

Also, now that E**s has down away with third party URLs, I think we may finally see that switch to Slixa. *fingers crossed*

London, xx
Twitter: HelloLondonxx
Switter: LondonJames

ChristyRoberts 274 reads
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got a twitter account but cannot figure out how to connect with others? any help would be greatly appreciated !

fnmrbungle 3 Reviews 315 reads
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What do you mean by "the domestic Sugar Bowl"?

10v3sf3114t10 100 Reviews 263 reads
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By "the domestic Sugar Bowl," I mean sugar babies, e.g. on Seeking Arrangement (SA) and other such websites. Much greater variety and much better value for the money than vetted/reviewed providers. Up until FESTA/SOSTA, the only advantage of reviewed providers over sugar babies was that you (generally) knew what you were getting because there were reviews, and they had an incentive to behave themselves because one could hold them accountable by writing a review. Now that the reviews are gone, there is little reason to choose professional escorts over amateur sugar babies, unless one has a strong interest in a specific escort, or when a sugar baby flakes on you at the last minute.

DevorahReine See my TER Reviews 275 reads
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Social media is a really great way to connect with providers right now. I have been meeting lots of lovely clients finding me on all 3 platforms!

-Devorah

ChristyRoberts 235 reads
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switter isnt really working for high end provider!

TaraBanksNY 245 reads
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cuckoldvanessa 250 reads
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I was in Manhattan, NYC for couples of Month this year and sometimes i Need a female Play Partner … I tried switter and the ladies are not really fast with the Reply …  
with Twitter is the same Thing... it takes min. 2-3 days that a Lady sendme a Reply..I will be back in January next year and i hope to find a good place to find other ladies for a threesome…
 Please advice...

zorrf 243 reads
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Stop trying to see girls the day of.   You really needed to be told that?  It's a pretty obvious solution to what you described.

Anneke See my TER Reviews 266 reads
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Some have forgotten that requests to meet were made in advance.  Not fifteen minutes before you were arriving in a city as you were driving to it on the interstate.  That seems to be the norm these days and I, for one, will always screen and will not make arrangements by text last minute.  Certainly not with someone I've never met.

So....yes....Twitter is an excellent resource, our website links are there and it's still allowing us to post.  I have 40K followers and continuing and there is business. For Skype sessions, adventures and more.   It does not take me 2-3 days to respond.  It's almost immediate but the advance notice is respectful and expected.  Switter has not translated for me at all.  

And thankfully,  some of you do still like older and  voluptuous women.  In Land O Lakes Florida or Albany NY.

eroticmassagenyc 250 reads
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I think you will find most providers on twitter.

We are on there if you need a nice sensual massage in Manhattan https://twitter.com/nycerotic

My tips for providers would be growing on twitter, telegram app and seo. There are still many places to build an online following.

Helj 24 Reviews 264 reads
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I've really scaled back almost entirely since all of this went down. What was important to me about TER was that it was a place I could validate before linking up. Twitter and Switter and other sites are great for ads, but there is no way to know anymore what are you might be in store for. I know that reviews alone don't ensure safety, but someone with a long trail of reviews from known reviewers, could essentially be trusted. Now everyone is a total gamble, unless it is someone you have seen before. There appear to be other sites out there for ads as well, but some of them look like a lot of fake ads mixed in. What do you all use now to get a sense? Or do you all just throw caution to the wind and gamble? Someone having a nice Twitter page alone provides very little comfort.

AnniePlaymate 230 reads
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