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constellations 884 reads
posted
1 / 15

As hard as this is for me to admit I'm still a virgin at 24 years old. While I realize this isn't the most common situation for the majority of people on this site I would greatly appreciate any help from anyone who has been in this position or just anyone here in general. Up until recently I guess I tried not to think about my situation too much (denial), I was distracted with school, friends and hobbies but now being done with school and recently unemployed (I used to tutor at my college) I have too much time to reflect on the depressing state my life is in. Now I am hardly around any girls anymore besides my few friends significant others whom I assume all see me as to undesirable to introduce me to any of their friends. My inexperience has really started to become a huge burden I carry around with me everywhere. I'm even starting to feel like a lesser human and completely unable to relate to most people my age. I accept that I basically missed out on my sexual prime but I don't want to go without knowing what I have been missing any longer, it is becoming too much of a distraction and hindrance and is destroying what little is left of my self-esteem. So I have pretty much 100% decided to I need to do this, I can't keep waiting for something or some lucky break that I have never had any success with in the past. I have actually been saving up for this for a while because I promised myself that if I didn't have any success in the last 6 months I would commit to doing this in the new year. After reading some threads from people in my similar situation it seems to be common advice to book about 2 hours with a more mature provider who would be caring, more open-minded and wouldn't mind leading the session or wouldn't get frustrated while I fumble through everything.

I'm obviously a complete newbie to the hobby but have recently spent a good amount of time on the newbie board/faqs doing my homework and trying to educate myself on the ins and outs of everything (membership to this site, screening sites, etiquette, donations, etc...) Basically my few hurdles right now are is there any way to get accepted to a screening site such as preferred411 or datecheck if I am currently unemployed and out of school? I don't really have much of a work history outside a few retail jobs and my tutoring over the last few years. I understand there is a steep barrier to entry for newbies and screening is a must for the safety of everyone involved but if I can't get verified should I just try to go to Amsterdam or Germany or even Canada and go to a brothel there? I realize it will be very impersonal and probably not the best experience but it can't be much worse than what I am feeling now.

Thanks in advance if anyone helps me out there. I appreciate it more than I can convey.

inicky46 61 Reviews 779 reads
posted
2 / 15

Since you have no references, one of the screening services is a must.  I suggest P411 because they have an 800 # you can call and you can speak to someone there regarding what personal information you can provide to become a member.  There are plenty of options, and you will not need to provide a work #.  P411 is based in Canada, so you can be sure your information is safe.
You can then find P411 providers who list themselves a "newbie friendly" and require no OKs.  Write to them through the site requesting a date and explain your situation.  I agree a more mature (over 30) provider would be best.  Lots of them would love to help you pop your cherry.
As for going overseas, Amersterdam is a definite option, but Prague is also supposed to be good.  However, you may not need to travel that far as there are also places in the Dominican Republic and Costa Rica.  While I have not gone to either place, you can do a search on this site for discussion threads on both places.  That said, you will have a much harder time finding a compatible provider overseas.
Bottom line: I'd go the P411 route.

constellations 475 reads
posted
3 / 15

Posted By: blue6314
My first point of advice is that I think you should go to a therapist and talk about your issues. It sounds like you have confidence and self-esteem problems that need to be addressed. I would recommend a cognitive behavioral therapist.  You should also read the Feeling Good Handbook by David Burns.

Now, you also want to get laid. I get that. If you go to the therapist, s/he may want to talk you out of P4P. So, you have to figure out how you want to arrange the timing of all this. Anyway, if you want to see a provider, which is probably a good idea, because you don't want to wait to bust your cherry and want to get it over with, I would recommend that, as you mention, you go for a 2 hour session. 1 hour will not be enough for 24 years of pent up sexuality in need of a release. You will probably want multiple rounds, too, because you'll find, if you're anything like me and most guys, that you'll hold out for about 1.5 seconds your first time. I think I came faster than Usain Bolt ran the 100 yard dash in London. I can't recommend a specific provider, except to say you should read reviews and see who appears to have a caring and understanding and accepting disposition. You want to have as nice of an experience as possible. Then, maybe a year from now, you'll hit up the chicks who will drink your pee, let you anally assault them while dressed up as Little Bo Peep, and strap you into one of those fetish devices like at the end of the Girl with a Dragon Tattoo. LOL

Getting back to my therapy point, don't sweat your situation too much. Many guys aren't very sexually active when they are younger. You have your whole life ahead of you. You're still in your sexual prime. And, really, sex is not that big of a deal. That's why you should see a therapist, because you place so much importance on it and it is really weighing on you. It's like how C. Rock or E. Murphy talked about putting the pussy on a pedestal. But really, it's just body parts and fluids. All of us mongers on here with SO's are just stupid cretins who are guided by instinct and ego. And most womanizers have an element of cruelty and woman-hating to their personalities. Just because a man has sex does not make him a better man. Trust me, there are a lot of assholes who get laid all the time. No one ever said life is fair.

Good luck, son. Let us know how it goes.

Oh, one other thing, you're worried about being able to even get a provider to see you. You should tell the provider your situation up front. If no one will see you without more references, point them to this post and have them PM you, or offer to pay them additional money to just meet you somewhere for half an hour in public to make sure you're not Jack the Ripper.
Thanks for the help. Maybe I should have mentioned it but regarding the therapist though, I've already been there and done that, multiple times. I've tried out about 3 different talk therapists since I was 18 and had a psychiatrist that I tried multiple medications and anti-depressants with...as bad as it sounds, it was all a pretty big waste of time, all 5 years of it. I have a feeling my lack of confidence comes more as a symptom of my less than ideal situation and lack of success with woman. I talked about my lack of success with relationships with all of them but for most people that never have this problem it seems like it is very hard to even relate or understand at all. Or they don't even see it as a real problem "oh, a girl will show up when you least expect it, that's how these things always work!". Affirmations, counteracting negative thinking with positive statements (which are untrue), joining various clubs and talking to 3 strangers everyday didn't really yield any results sadly. I just don't want to go through the cycle again and then end up at 30 in an even worse place than I am now. I don't even want to imagine that outcome.

I plan to be completely upfront with any provider I go to. If worst comes to worst and I can't get verified maybe I can find a rare provider who would be willing to accept some extra donation and meet me in public before. Trying to do this as a younger hobbyist is like trying to get a job as a new graduate...no good references, lack of experience and solid work history basically mean the vicious cycle continues...

Thanks again for your input though.

TheHoundOfCullin 9 Reviews 500 reads
posted
4 / 15

Lets just say I wasn't very experienced.
This lack of experience definitely messed with my confidence.
The guys above a right. Except for the shrink thing.
There is nothing wrong with being shy. Not a reason to seek therapy.
You will find that feeling melt away after you have had your first date.
Take it from a super shy dude.
After a few rolls in the hay, I broke my shell.
In fact providers are surprised when I tell them.
Because now I am truly comfortable around women.
I also learned to appreciate them.
A consept I didn't understand in the past.
Consider an older provider. I'd say 35 to 40.
They are usually more experienced, and will make things easy.
Just be careful you don't fall in love, or become addicted.
Typical newbie pitfalls.
Good luck in your new hobby!

will645 19 Reviews 609 reads
posted
5 / 15

Many providers (avoid those with a booker----pick someone you can email directly first and then talk on the phone) are really very sweet. Explain your situation by email, offering to meet in public and book two hours. Ask them to call you back. Do this with your top 3 choices and, I'll bet all is well.

Posted By: constellations
As hard as this is for me to admit I'm still a virgin at 24 years old. While I realize this isn't the most common situation for the majority of people on this site I would greatly appreciate any help from anyone who has been in this position or just anyone here in general. Up until recently I guess I tried not to think about my situation too much (denial), I was distracted with school, friends and hobbies but now being done with school and recently unemployed (I used to tutor at my college) I have too much time to reflect on the depressing state my life is in. Now I am hardly around any girls anymore besides my few friends significant others whom I assume all see me as to undesirable to introduce me to any of their friends. My inexperience has really started to become a huge burden I carry around with me everywhere. I'm even starting to feel like a lesser human and completely unable to relate to most people my age. I accept that I basically missed out on my sexual prime but I don't want to go without knowing what I have been missing any longer, it is becoming too much of a distraction and hindrance and is destroying what little is left of my self-esteem. So I have pretty much 100% decided to I need to do this, I can't keep waiting for something or some lucky break that I have never had any success with in the past. I have actually been saving up for this for a while because I promised myself that if I didn't have any success in the last 6 months I would commit to doing this in the new year. After reading some threads from people in my similar situation it seems to be common advice to book about 2 hours with a more mature provider who would be caring, more open-minded and wouldn't mind leading the session or wouldn't get frustrated while I fumble through everything.

I'm obviously a complete newbie to the hobby but have recently spent a good amount of time on the newbie board/faqs doing my homework and trying to educate myself on the ins and outs of everything (membership to this site, screening sites, etiquette, donations, etc...) Basically my few hurdles right now are is there any way to get accepted to a screening site such as preferred411 or datecheck if I am currently unemployed and out of school? I don't really have much of a work history outside a few retail jobs and my tutoring over the last few years. I understand there is a steep barrier to entry for newbies and screening is a must for the safety of everyone involved but if I can't get verified should I just try to go to Amsterdam or Germany or even Canada and go to a brothel there? I realize it will be very impersonal and probably not the best experience but it can't be much worse than what I am feeling now.

Thanks in advance if anyone helps me out there. I appreciate it more than I can convey.  

simstim 27 Reviews 420 reads
posted
6 / 15

Congrats on choosing to take matter into your own hands. Empires have been built on the same set of principles. Although a lot of providers say they require screening or references a lot in my experience do not. It basically comes down to this. Do you want the girl to know your a virgin before you have sex or not. My advice would be to just send a pretty lady of your liking a nice email asking to set up a date and see if she just says yes. You don't need to go into details. Of course you will be nervous but don't worry about it. The first time is already built up to much and you can always explain that you were a virgin after if you feel like it. Sometimes the less you say or think about things the better it is.

crazyshit 387 reads
posted
7 / 15

And I think that's gonna be your undoing.  Instead of just saying that you're inexperienced, you are making this out to be a huge, huge undertaking, both emotionally and mentally, in addition to sexually.  The fear I have is that you end up making this out to be a lot more than a paid encounter, and you end up having feelings for the provider.  Which could be a massive can of worms.

If this is about your worth as a human being because you basically see yourself as undesirable, I can only fear that if you fall for the provider and then later find out that she's only into you because you pay her, the outcome could be far worse than the time you spend in bed for the carnal and physical pleasure.

I think you really need to think about what you are realistically expecting.  What you are not looking for is a provider but someone who will basically make you feel like you are worth something more than what you think you are.  And that's very, very dangerous...and not really fair to a provider who is being paid to have sex with you for a certain period of time.

Many providers are happy to be with a virgin or an experienced guy, so long as it is understood that it is sex.  I fear that you are going to assign a value to it far beyond that, and very few providers will want to be involved in something like that.

Think about what you want out of this.  The logistics are simple enough.  And I can refer some providers who would see you.  But if you are going to get attached to the provider...that I don't really think is fair to the provider.  More importantly, it won't be fair to YOU.

LelaCruz See my TER Reviews 754 reads
posted
9 / 15

While I do follow a standard screening process which includes my assessment of references, I may be willing to meet with You.... please check out my ad and if you're interested, shoot me an email.  I'd love to chat with you about your situation and possibly schedule a date :)  I am staying at a beautiful & discreet suite in Midtown East.  

xoxo
Lela

LelaCruz See my TER Reviews 384 reads
posted
10 / 15


Please check out my profile, photos, etc., and shoot me an email....

xoxo
Lela

constellations 357 reads
posted
11 / 15

I appreciate your concern but honestly I really don't have any delusions about what i'm doing. Yes, behind all the jargon and discretion of companionship, donations, etc...I am paying a woman for sex for a set amount of time, I understand that fully. I don't realistically expect this to have any positive effect on my overall confidence or interaction with women in everyday life, but if it even relieves one bit of the pressure and tension and mystery surrounding sex that I have carried around with me for so long it will be worth it completely. I don't know how old you are but try to remember the feeling you had while you were a virgin as a young teenager, now imagine having that same feeling of frustration, eagerness and curiosity in your mid 20's...It has a become too much of a distraction and burden. Even if it is an arbitrary word and means nothing, I can't simply tell myself that and undo every bit of importance society places on it. All I basically want is someone who will be patient and understanding and guide me a little while I flub my way through most of the session. Someone who has seen it all and who takes making their client feel comfortable seriously. I may be putting a lot of pressure on the whole ordeal but I know I won't find this with a random girl. At this point with my situation I believe a provider will actually be preferable to a random hookup for a first time. I'd like to think a provider wouldn't look at me like a total leper and embarrass me for my lack of experience which would be a very real possibility with a civilian girl. I would appreciate your references if they fit the little criteria I have listed but if you are still hesitant I understand your reasons.

Posted By: crazyshit
And I think that's gonna be your undoing.  Instead of just saying that you're inexperienced, you are making this out to be a huge, huge undertaking, both emotionally and mentally, in addition to sexually.  The fear I have is that you end up making this out to be a lot more than a paid encounter, and you end up having feelings for the provider.  Which could be a massive can of worms.

If this is about your worth as a human being because you basically see yourself as undesirable, I can only fear that if you fall for the provider and then later find out that she's only into you because you pay her, the outcome could be far worse than the time you spend in bed for the carnal and physical pleasure.

I think you really need to think about what you are realistically expecting.  What you are not looking for is a provider but someone who will basically make you feel like you are worth something more than what you think you are.  And that's very, very dangerous...and not really fair to a provider who is being paid to have sex with you for a certain period of time.

Many providers are happy to be with a virgin or an experienced guy, so long as it is understood that it is sex.  I fear that you are going to assign a value to it far beyond that, and very few providers will want to be involved in something like that.

Think about what you want out of this.  The logistics are simple enough.  And I can refer some providers who would see you.  But if you are going to get attached to the provider...that I don't really think is fair to the provider.  More importantly, it won't be fair to YOU.

crazyshit 343 reads
posted
12 / 15

He said things along the lines of, "This is driving me crazy" and "I can't take this anymore," as well as, "This is the only way to deal with this issue."  It wasn't a guy who just said...I wanna have my first sexual experience and I'd like to find someone who is patient and friendly with virgins.

So if you interpret that as being mean...well, that wasn't my intent.  But I think any reasonable person reading this who has any semblance of concern for another person wouldn't want to create a situation where there are mismanaged expectations.  Especially when the guy just spent a lot of words explaining WHY this was so important.

My opinion is that it's better to ask questions upfront than to create a situation which is ugly down the line.

As far as the offensive statement you referenced at the end...I'm just saying that there are plenty of us who don't need to pay for sex to get laid here.  We pay for sex for the convenience factor, or because we want to play in a league that is higher than we usually play in.  But there is a league that many of us partake in during our civvie lives that allows us to have sex with certain types of women.  Cougars with average faces and banging bodies have never been an issue for me.  I personally DO NOT need to pay for that, and I would never pay for that here.

crazyshit 351 reads
posted
13 / 15

I sure as hell am not going to be posting recommendations for all to see on this board.  There are lots of freeloaders and information hoarders on this board.  If you have a specific request, then PM me, and, assuming that you check out as a guy who contributes to TER, you will probably get a response.  If not, don't expect an answer.

Not to be mean, but remember that I spent my own hard-earned resources to be able to obtain this information.  So I'm not interested in giving it away to those who have not demonstrated a propensity or a history of doing the same.  That's a general statement to everyone reading this, not to you.  As I said to you, the OP, feel free to PM me now that you understand my concern and conditions.

FloraFaun See my TER Reviews 363 reads
posted
14 / 15

And for me, newbies are a breath of fresh air because they are genuine, excited, non jaded, never arrogant, and just wonderful all around.

donziman99 15 Reviews 477 reads
posted
15 / 15

For starters, don't bother going to Europe, Canada, or Dominican Republic to lose your virginity, that would be a complete waste of time and money

There are so many wonderful providers right here in NYC that can take real good care of you and help you overcome your issues, fears, etc with women


My advice is to first buy a VIP membership if you haven't already

Next is to jot down what is important to you and do your homework with the TER search function:

1)  What are your available funds.   See if you can swing a 2-hour date.  For a first-timer, a 1-hour date probably isn't enough time to acquaint yourself with a lady, get comfortable with each other, then enjoy each other.  Go for the 2-hours

2)  What would your ideal girl look like.   Height, body type, skin tone, short hair, shoulder length hair, mid-back hair, or ass-length hair.  Next, blue eyes, green eyes, brown eyes.   Blonde, brown, redhead.  Someone who resembles a co-worker, neighbor, or friends GF or wife you have the hots for.   Those are some of the HOTTEST sessions you can ever have...

3)  Age is important too.   QUITE important.   At 24, I would suggest a lady who is perhaps in her early 30's.   Gals in their 20's I find are not quite as experienced or condfident as gals in their 30's, and ladies in their 40's may just be a few years too old for you

4)  What are your sexual goals for this session.  Do you fantasize about eating pussy, licking a girls asshole, getting an amazing BJ and unloading days worth of jizz in her mouth?  

Doing your homework on TER will give you just about everything you need to make this first time a real special occasion


Don't do any drugs before the session, and if you drink, keep it to ONE drink so you don't have erectile issues, orgasm issues, or have to pee during the session

Hope this helps, and happy hunting !!

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