This is not something I wanted to write but its for the good of the hobbyist community and the only recourse I currently have....I had an appointment with Rachel about a month ago....I was verified by another provider who I saw and had good experiences with...the provider and Rachel happen to be friendly...We had a Friday afternoon appt...she tried confirming by sending an email at 11 pm...since she does not text or provide a phone number to call and since I don't check my email at 11 pm at night she never had a chance to confirm with me....Needless to say I assumed we were still on...she did not assume the same...after some back and forth email it was obvious it wasn't going to happen...Here is the WARNING....she then black flagged me as DANGEROUS and posted ALL of my PERSONAL info that she used for screening....Even though she never met me she still listed me as dangerous on a national site and she said that she deletes all personal info...apparently she does not...if she has a problem with me and wanted to flag me she did not have a right to label me dangerous as we have never met and had no right to post my personal info used for screening...its difficult enough for most guys to provide personal info but to know that its posted somewhere is a betryal of trust

its disgusting how these women abuse those blacklist sites

I stopped seeing providers who require references. Way too much drama.

I wasn't going to respond, but I feel that this is important. I do not know what board is being talked about where he saw any information, but the only thing I did see was on a private provider screening board, which I'm not sure how he got access to begin with. All what was said anonymously, which I don't know who wrote it, but what was said is he was harassing another girl. Ironically, that's exactly what he's doing to me, and now my friend, Ariana as well. I haven't responded to any of his emails because I do not believe into feeding anything, and I have no idea what he's capable of. All I know is that I keep getting numerous threatening emails, which threatened to ruin my business, hire a lawyer, and subpoena all and any clients who have seen me. I've done nothing but choose not to see him after he continuously wouldn't leave me alone, and now he's doing the same to Ariana. This community is also supposed to keep us all safe, which I do not feel that I am in this situation. Others have already seen through what's really going on here, so I don't feel like I have to say any more, but just wanted to make everyone aware. Hope everyone has an enjoyable New Years.

Not only is she lying about posting a black list report about me....she posted my personal info....the "anoyomus" report was done by provider with the initial "r" and has excerpts from our emails...if your going to be a j**'k at least don't be a lying one....she whines about how this is going to ruin her biz..maybe she should have thought about that before posting someones personal info....there is a certain amount of trust that goes into all this...providers need to trust the references they get and hobbyists need to trust that their personal info will not be abused...rachel broke that trust....I never threatened her or sent her emails that had foul language...to label me "dangerous" is over board...not sure how she came to that conclusion...we never met...I don't know what she looks like....I don't have any phone numbers for her...I think its pretty extreme....on the other hand she now knows plenty about me and has posted it...I now feel unsafe from her and what she is capable of....I got a reference from her good friend arianna russo...arianna and I have seen each other on numerous ocassions...even after the fallout with rachel...I have all of ariannas personal info....if I was that bad of a person why did ariaNna give a reference? Why would I have all of her personal info?? Why would she still see me after rachel and I's fallout???? Doesn't make sense...rachel could have not seen me and flagged me butdidnt have to list my personal info and label me dangerous!!!!!

At this point rachel should let it go and move on with her life....I have

if it finally got into  some of these providers heads that pulling stunts like this have consequences? ie loss of biz. Posting on those BL sites personal info for all the world to see for in my case just cause I cancelled an appt is an outrageous abuse of those sites

Just curious does she give you the number when you have a appt booked i mean what if you had a issue a hour before the scheduled time how dod you reach her

Lots of drama
glad I have great peace in my life
lol

I personally dont save a gentlemens info i dont need to
I seem to be able to rememeber who I have seen

I never was given anything other than her work email...no alternate email...no cell number.. nothing

She is a serial head case, drama queen, and all evidence indicates a chronic liar.  Haven't we all seen her movie before?  She's on my personal avoid and run away from  like a leper list.

I know GreenEyeCyclop well enough to know that he's telling the truth, and millergary6 has virtually the identical tale to tell.  This girl has black listed both guys for nothing.   I've also watched this scary provider post whacko posts that don't ring of any truth whatsoever and basically try to RUIN various guys.  She clearly is either mentally unstable (at  the least), or has substance issues or BOTH.   I think smart guys will make a 2013 resolution to not get involved with her in any way.

I just went over all the emails between us.....I was actually very nice to her....she was the agressive one...totally rude and unwilling to be flexible.....maybe those emails need to be posted to remind her of what she said and how rude she was.....obviously there is more to her then people know and her pattern of flagging is disturbing

Keep a cool head and don't get yourself in any futher.

At this point I'm done with her and her bs...I'm moving on for 2013!!!!!! Hopefully she does too and realizes what she's done to others and how it can ruin someone's personal life....not just the hobby they enjoy...

Rachel-

Best of luck to you in 2013 and take a lesson from all of this....its a good chance for you to start over in the new year

I rarely if every respond to alias's but I also have had zero contact with this specific provider, my experience was with a different one whose name can be found on previous pages of this board

Just so I understand the situation, you know nothing about Rachel Rose?  All you know is that a different woman put you on a black list and you did nothing to deserve it?

I never feed into any drama as I run my business very professional and treat all my clients as guests.  However, my name has been brought into this and as a provider myself I feel as if I owe a response.  I have seen on a few occasions the gentleman who started this thread.  MY experience was nothing but positive and fun.  I recommended him to my friend Rachel.  Her screening process is different than mine.  However, we all run our business differently and can choose to see or not see ANYONE for ANY reason.  The gentleman involved informed me that he and Rachel were having issues with scheduling so on and so fourth.  I told him numerous times I did not want to be involved and he told me he was going to keep emailing her until she responded.  She was not responding to him.  Therefore, he was harassing her.  He then informed me that she had blacklisted him on a site.  I asked which site and he would not tell me.  That is completely fine.  It is not my business.  However, I refused to get involved again and again.  I have my own business and personal life.  He then was threatening to get a lawyer and have everyone involved have to testify in court etc.  Therefore, my communication with this gentleman has been completely cut off.  I never wanted to be involved in the first place and if he was not harassing her this would have never happened.  Its a shame that a provider would give any hobbyist access to our personal sites that we use for our own safety.  I myself have not seen what was posted about the gentleman as I asked him to tell me which site and he chose not to.  Through all of this I lost a great client and friend.  This situation is very unfortunate however, as providers we can choose who we want to see or not see for ANY reason.  Our choices need to be respected and the same respect will be returned.  Happy New Year!!

agreed. It bcomes irritating and takes away from investing any time into more civilized ways to communicate.

I don't see how references are so bad. Without judging the provider (bound to be many sides of the story here), this wouldn't have happened if the OP didn't give his real name. I have never and will never supply my employment info or real name. But, I do include my references with my initial email to the lady. I feel that this engenders good feeling and trust, my goal when I first contact her is to reassure her that I am safe and 100% a gentleman. This has always worked in my favor.

I wouldn't want to see a provider who takes no screening precautions whatsoever. That's just me personally, though...



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oh it's obvious that you have totally moved on...

Babe I'm sorry this happened but if she felt unsafe she felt unsafe...u may not have intended to nake her feel like that but you did and so if she chose to post her experience on hooker only sites that's her right
Same argument can be made about guys writing bad reviews..us providers may not agree with the review and even go so far as to call guy liar...but at the end of the day the review was from his perspective and same with X lists...

Only thing u can do is learn from it...

I agree that how she felt coming out of this situation she's entitled too...I also agree that she's entitled to black list me and post my hobby information....I don't agree that she needed to put up my personal info...That was my only point...Remember that many providers screen for safety reasons which makes total sense...But to abuse the position they are in by posting some one's personal info is wrong....I guess the lesson learned for me is to be more selective in the information given out....But this all could have been avoided had she just used my hobby info!!

I am sorry this happened to you. I tried to make an appt with her a few months ago. She asked for my personal info in addition to my screening site references. I told her I didn't give out my personal info. She became indignant, telling me that she sees lawyers, doctors, "high end CEO's", and they give her their info. I didn't reply, and went to one of the many other fine ladies who understand the need for privacy in this thing.
Blacklisting a guy is one thing, but if the girl outs a guy with personal info, that guy had better committed a very serious offense, like physical harm or theft, or something like that. I hope her business suffers.
I don't trust anyone I haven't met in person, girl or guy.
Never give your personal info.

Seriously??


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Your right....never give your personal info....def a lesson learned.....unfortunately, I took the reccomendation of a provider that was close to her and me....I never thought she would abuse her position and post my personal info....

Awesome!!! This is exactly how I tell the gents to handle aproaching a provider.  Perfect!!!

Should I believe a hobbyist with no reviews and no referrals or using an alias?  A well known provider with plenty of great reviews and linking her web site to her statement?  How about a link to this blacklist post?