New England

Exposing Johns
SK058 10 Reviews 1692 reads
posted
1 / 12

I know the website Exposing Johns has been mentioned on threads in other places on TER, but I figured I'd mention it here.  They are on the prowl in New England, folks!  Be careful who and how you contact - use ONLY throwaway phones or VOIP numbers not associated with a real email or real name

sweetnicole1 See my TER Reviews 1036 reads
posted
2 / 12

I understand your apprehension the problem here isn't what you are giving out for info but to WH rather.
Most well established Ladies wont see you n a whim with bogus unverifiable info.

These ppl got caught and exposed because they were reckless and careless in their research.

The better info would be to state
Do your research
Know who you are giving info to
Is she reviewed
Is she verifiable
Does she have a good reputation in the community

The tossing around of info all willy nilly is what gets ppl fucked here NOT the careful research and cautious behavior.

Not Everyone in this biz is out to get you.
Personally youd get nowhere with me without your real name and contact info.
And im not alone in that line of thinking.
Those days of clients with just the one first name and no other info...well, theyre long gone!
We ALL need to be careful now n both sides.

Be well and stay safe!


lisaluvs See my TER Reviews 820 reads
posted
3 / 12

Agree 100% Nicole.  

Posted By: sweetnicole1
I understand your apprehension the problem here isn't what you are giving out for info but to WH rather.
Most well established Ladies wont see you n a whim with bogus unverifiable info.

These ppl got caught and exposed because they were reckless and careless in their research.

The better info would be to state  
Do your research
Know who you are giving info to
Is she reviewed  
Is she verifiable
Does she have a good reputation in the community

The tossing around of info all willy nilly is what gets ppl fucked here NOT the careful research and cautious behavior.

Not Everyone in this biz is out to get you.
Personally youd get nowhere with me without your real name and contact info.
And im not alone in that line of thinking.
Those days of clients with just the one first name and no other info...well, theyre long gone!
We ALL need to be careful now n both sides.

Be well and stay safe!

 
 

SK058 10 Reviews 741 reads
posted
4 / 12

Nicole -

Naturally, you  make excellent points.  My original post on this had been MUCH longer and covered some of these things, but I deleted most of it and decided to be brief because I wanted to cut to the chase.  To be fair, I did my research - phone number checked out, reverse image search all came out all right, etc.  I figured it was a travelling provider - and sometimes finding reviews can be hard because of phone number changes, name changes, etc - even the top providers do this sometimes. And the only message I sent was "I saw your ad on_____.  Are you still in _____"?  Never got a response.  And the next day I get a text message from Exposing Johns saying I'd been listed, and it had a screenshot of that text message.  Which I would say is hardly a solicitation of anything, just a question.  But this site prides itself on clear extortion, and since it's traced to a PO Box in Florida, which leads to a company in India and a registration in Maylasia, I'm not really worried.  Especially since I had a throwaway number and phone (which are what I use when I'm contacting a provider I am NOT 150% sure about, just curious about).  So I did use all due caution.  A verified P411 provider with plenty of - there I have no problem giving out information.  I know that's part of the deal and am not so naive or paranoid.  Just wanted to put a bit of a warning out there that the trolling has reached New England, which is a sad sad thing indeed

sweetnicole1 See my TER Reviews 711 reads
posted
5 / 12

that's part of your problem
AND texting.
Honestly I don't feel texting has any place in this biz.

these ppl are not your friends youre not homies.

wtf...I don't get the whole texting in this biz.
you were careless she had no reviews you are willy nilly texting about business and about locations.
that's nuts.
Ya know I don't wanna sound like a bitch here but pull your head out of your ass and stop thinking with your Cock.
this is an illegal business a lil covert behavior is in order. why so out in the open...
Text messages can be read and emailed
Texting has no place in this biz. imo anyway.
If shes not reviewed she doesn't pass and you move onto someone else. end of story...

hobbyhorse68 35 Reviews 533 reads
posted
6 / 12

Sweet Nicole, I think that SK058 was trying to be helpful.  Some providers that I know actually prefer texts, others who don't want them.  I only contact providers by their preferred method of contact.  Since SK058 has a secure, untraceable hobby phone, I see no reason he should worry about texting from it.  Yes, I think we all agree that reviewed providers are the way to go.  Let's not beat each other up when they are trying to be helpful.  I for one had not heard of Exposing Johns and appreciated the original post.  It sounds like this "company" is just an extortion racket...they want $500 to remove your name once it is posted.  Because their "cause" is seen as just in our vigilante culture, they seem to get away with it.  I hope they get what they have coming.

Posted By: sweetnicole1
that's part of your problem
AND texting.
Honestly I don't feel texting has any place in this biz.

these ppl are not your friends youre not homies.

wtf...I don't get the whole texting in this biz.
you were careless she had no reviews you are willy nilly texting about business and about locations.
that's nuts.
Ya know I don't wanna sound like a bitch here but pull your head out of your ass and stop thinking with your Cock.
this is an illegal business a lil covert behavior is in order. why so out in the open...
Text messages can be read and emailed  
Texting has no place in this biz. imo anyway.
If shes not reviewed she doesn't pass and you move onto someone else. end of story...

SK058 10 Reviews 501 reads
posted
7 / 12

I was indeed just trying to be helpful, not whining or bitching.  You will notice one of my recent posts on the board was warning that a "provider" was actually obviously an entrapment scam.  Look, I don't engage in the hobby on a very regular basis, but I want to be helpful and contribute to the community as I can. Many have not heard of this wesbite - and by the way, if you pay to have it "removed", they then have your real information and can associate who you really are with the number listed - so basically, you are perfectly capable of screwing yourself through paranoia.  They are an LLC with a PO box in Florida, are run out of India and registered in Malaysia.  Yeah, that smells like an extortion wesbite to me.  In fact that's exactly what it is.  It's basically like a revenge porn site except for hobbyists.  

And yes, I had a secure, untraceable phone.  They would have to subpoena through two different layers of usage to trace that number back to me - and no law enforcement agency is going to go through that trouble for something that, in most states, is less than a $300 fine.  Especially if the website is located in India, which I'm sure creates all sorts of interesting legal issues.  The process and paperwork alone would cost more than pursuing prosecution.  My risk was minimal. I do not go about "willy nilly" texting providers - I do research first, and this looked legit.  I work from a secure phone in these cases.  Precautions are taken and nothing explicit is said.  I am neither stupid nor "in the open" no matter what my initial post may have seemed like.  I simply wanted to warn people that this website exists and they are trolling in New England now.  

Texting, whether we like it or not, has become the dominant form of communication now. It's not about friends or homies - hell, I text with coworkers and bosses because it's more efficient than phone calls or emailing in many cases. Nicole, I understand your point about texts being transmittable - but so are emails, and MANY providers these days seem to prefer initial contact to be via email or through a form on their website, which are just as transmittable and postable.  On the flip side of that, there have been many legit, well-known providers that I have tried to leave voicemails for that have full voicemail boxes, and they remain full for days, so eventually one just has to give up because they are not reachable.  And as the whole scandal in England proved, voicemail is very easily hackable.   I always - ALWAYS - respect whatever means of communication a provider prefers.  Doesn't want text or email?  I won't do either.  Wants a phone call?  Then all I ask is the common courtesy of keeping your voice mailbox clean.  Many don't seem to do that anymore, for some reason.  But my major point is - no form of communication is "safe" anymore.  It just doesn't exist.  Don't put on your tinfoil hat, but nothing electronic is secure.  Nothing.  Once again, I appreciate the point you are trying to make, I truly do.  But I think I can honestly say I've never thought with my cock.  One cannot afford to when in this business.  

And Nicole, I also understand your point about "No reviews, move on".  But where do we draw the line on that.  How many reviews does a provider have to have, and on what site(s), to be considered legit?  5? 10?  They could ALL be plants.  So what is the cutoff number?  I see a girl who has five reviews, and I look at who's reviewed them, and who else that reviewer or reviewers has reviewed, and sometimes that reviewer has reviewed providers in various geographic areas.  So are they legit or plants?  How deep down the rabbit hole does one go?  It's easy to go down the road of paranoia in this business.  Which is why I wish the federal government would pull its head out of its ass and just finally make this all legal like Canada has finally done.

I am sorry that I didn't include all this information in my original post - it had originally been much longer, but I decided to cut it down just to be brief.  Obviously my mistake.  I hope you're all having a pleasant evening.

 
Posted By: brex
Sweet Nicole, I think that SK058 was trying to be helpful.  Some providers that I know actually prefer texts, others who don't want them.  I only contact providers by their preferred method of contact.  Since SK058 has a secure, untraceable hobby phone, I see no reason he should worry about texting from it.  Yes, I think we all agree that reviewed providers are the way to go.  Let's not beat each other up when they are trying to be helpful.  I for one had not heard of Exposing Johns and appreciated the original post.  It sounds like this "company" is just an extortion racket...they want $500 to remove your name once it is posted.  Because their "cause" is seen as just in our vigilante culture, they seem to get away with it.  I hope they get what they have coming.  
   
Posted By: sweetnicole1
that's part of your problem  
 AND texting.  
 Honestly I don't feel texting has any place in this biz.  
   
 these ppl are not your friends youre not homies.  
   
 wtf...I don't get the whole texting in this biz.  
 you were careless she had no reviews you are willy nilly texting about business and about locations.  
 that's nuts.  
 Ya know I don't wanna sound like a bitch here but pull your head out of your ass and stop thinking with your Cock.  
 this is an illegal business a lil covert behavior is in order. why so out in the open...  
 Text messages can be read and emailed  
 Texting has no place in this biz. imo anyway.  
 If shes not reviewed she doesn't pass and you move onto someone else. end of story...  
 

FloraFaun See my TER Reviews 465 reads
posted
8 / 12

But anyone new must contact me via email. Once I've screened someone, they get my phone number, and once we have met, they are welcome to text or call anytime. But I ignore any texts from people I don't know.  

Be careful out there. You know, any girl with a vagina has the ability to be an escort. But do you want to just see anyone out there with a vagina? Go with the reviewed girls with good tried and true reputations, such as myself and Nicole and so many others in New England that always take good care of our men. We all screen in our own way, and honesty is the best approach. I understand the need to be sneaky when you suspect a girl could be a scam, & maybe want to test the waters???? But why bother. Just stay safe and see someone who is going to not make drama in your life. Really, this "hobby" is risky, and It really is in the gentlemen's best interest to not waste time, money, energy, or safety seeing someone who isnt going to respect ultimate discretion and safety.  

Best of luck. We all make a mistake once, twice, but after that, go with the girls who don't make mistakes. Happy New Years xoxo

-- Modified on 12/29/2013 5:39:01 PM

FloraFaun See my TER Reviews 489 reads
posted
9 / 12

It is not good to be or live in fear. Can you imagine if we providers lived in fear? We would be miserable creatures. No, we had to let go of fear a long time ago and just give love and believe that we will attract good people. We screen to stay safe. There are no exceptions when it comes to screening. But the most important thing I ever did in my life, was to let go of fear. Its liberating in fact. Life opens up and is so beautiful, you can trust and love people so much easier. Use caution, yes. But that's what wisdom and experience are for. Ok, the last thing I like to do is lecture or sound like a know-it-all. But, like Nicole, we see these kinds of posts so often, and sometimes we wonder what's going on. lol.

-- Modified on 12/29/2013 5:39:39 PM

harborview 10 Reviews 788 reads
posted
11 / 12

I had only heard of this extortion scam recently.  This conversation has undoubtedly saved many of us the trauma of dealing with this crisis.  I thank all of the participants...  we all have to take responsibility for our own safety but the pitfalls continue to evolve.  We must continue to be alert.
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