It is time to renew my P411 membership. That got me thinking, is it really worth it?

The 2 years I have been a P411 member I have seen a few ladies while I am on my business travels: I have had 2 whitelists.  

But in MSP, P411 is useless. MSP providers on P411 charge way more than nonP411 TER reviewed providers. Also, in MSP under$300 per hour P411 providers are in the 40+age range.  

And recently I saw a DIY massage provider from P411. We met at a massage studio that I have been to before to see a nonP411 provider.  The massage and ending of the P411massage provider were nothing special. But her price was much higher. And she was absolutely paranoid that I would write a TER review.  

P411: Higher prices, no better quality, no better satisfaction. Is P411 membership worth renewing?

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For $10 a month, it's well worth it to me, and, I might add, many providers give a discount to P411 clients because it saves them time. If you see 5 ladies that give you a $25 discount, the service and convenience is free!

If/when I get down to seeing a select number of providers, it probably won't be as useful, but I HATE the "send me a list of who you have seen and their contact numbers and in a few days I may be able to verify you" game. Then I have to send an email with all my contact information...

I think it's like a gym membership. If you use it, it's worth it

for the reasons you stated and more.

1. Membership itself is not sufficient to get an appointment anymore for the most part. Many local providers still want additional references, real names etc thus I see no real need for P411 membership for myself.

2. While never a deal breaker, those "real" discounts were nice but are now non existent.

3. I have noticed many touring providers much more willing to give and accept TER Whitelist references for screening and verification. It basically substitutes for a P411 Okay.

I am going to try using TER Whitelist and see how it works then I might give Date-Check a shot.  

Heck, I might return to P411 because benefits still do exist for members and it is one of the more user friendly verification sites that I know of.

Not a fan of RS2000, I tried it and seemed too redundant and repetitive. They wanted me to give my full real name, city and state to the provider to verify me. If I have to do that, I might as well go ahead and give all that info to the provider directly and have her Google me. Still not sure how RS2000 serves as verification or screening site, it doesn't.

Good Luck

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I prefer Date-Check, lifetime membership, plus I love the calendar function.  When I favorite a girl, I can look at a calendar for any city to see if any of them will be in town while I'm there.

Either have a few references that are reliable at giving references, join date check (ONE lifetime fee) or join RS2K.
If none of the above you will probably be asked for more personal information.  
Lots of massage girls don't want to be reviewed, it's not fair of you to generalize about p411 massage girls vs bp massage girls.  

Hobby on!
Samantha Good

I agree completely, that's why I canceled my membership also!

valued info that I want to know, esp about the activities, and esp about female condom use.    for in town girls and out town girls.  a nice tool for planning.   only $10 a month.   quick easy verification, tells the girl you are ok and what level or kind of other you see.  see quality girls and they will know that.

...and it makes getting, confirming, and corresponding about an appointment extremely simple for me. I use both P411 and DateCheck. Life is good using these simple Hobby tools!  

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One of the interesting aspects of the hobby is our contradictory behavior within its confines.

Although I am not pleased with the price for a yearly Preferred411 membership, the site and its services are a small price to pay for safely arranging a meeting with a provider.

A general absurdity of the hobby is that we (i.e., hobbyists) will stake hundreds of dollars on an encounter with a provider that has innumerable, inherent risks. However, we will complain about the small, paltry costs associated in realizing a session.

In any case, I am not immune to this contradictory behavior. I truly dislike paying for parking in downtown locations. Thus, I will tend to avoid adventures in areas where the parking is not free.

the $129 yearly cost of P411 can save you lots of time and effort getting verified.  It's a small sum when you're paying $300 an hour...

I do not see myself renewing my membership. As others have said, p411 membership does not always fill the providers reference needs. Even those that post on p411. I don't really understand paying for a service that does not do what I need.

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I find it useful when out of town or when I am interested in visitors.  And even with local girls I haven't seen before, using P411 makes matters simple and easy for me.

Plus I do lack the fact that their servers are in Canada, not in the U.S.

I sure needed the membership when I got back into the hobby after taking a break. My membership has just lapsed and I don't think I will renew. Now that I have re-established myself, TER is sufficient.
If P411 was less expensive, I would renew.

y?   They tell me it is when their unpleasant experiences vanished and that they've only had good experiences since joining and using the service.  Things become so easy!!!!    

So, if I were a man!  Yes, I sure would, as I value ease!

If they only have a few reviews, I feel more comfortable that they're real. I also feel like their profiles let me know what they like or don't like so I know if we'll match up. I also travel a lot, so having references scattered around the country is much easier with P411. Whitelist - I've had a couple providers give them to me but never had a provider ask or care about them.

I've never had a bad experience with a P411 provider. Never a NCNS or an incall in a neighborhood I felt unsafe in. Verification is a breeze. I appreciate the discounts when available. They pretty much cover the cost of membership over the year.

and i love it.... very helpful
and safety is key for m

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$30-$40 a year difference.  then again if youre seeing Bloomington Asian girls or backpage girls, then p411 is not much value for you.  that's probably a 3-5 rating experience, you get what you pay for.
p411 can get verified in as alittle as 5 min probably. identify quality girls, their menu and enjoy a high quality 9 or 10 experience.  I have 6 oks from high quality girls, I would think that would help to make them feel good about granting my request for a meeting.  First impressions are always very good with a date, so when you walk in the door a lot of good feeling is ready to go.
that's where Im at.

Sounds like your expectations for what being a member of p411 "does" for you have not been met. and That's too bad your expectations regarding local providers have not been met.   Sounds like it has for when you're traveling though, so, I would say Yes, keep it!  Or shop around for a site that meets your screening needs and/or service expectations.  

My understanding of P411 is that it's a "screening" service where men can be discreetly screened so they can discreetly meet women who have been screened to be a legitimate provider/escort/companion. And not have to share their personal info with every woman they wish to see.    And then women can feel comfortable that the men they are about to meet are  legitimate and safe, based on the number of okays and who has given the okays, etc etc.      
 Is it a perfect site?  nope, but what is?   (wait, TER is perfect!  well, pretty damn close)      

It works well for me. I recommend it to anyone in the hobby and  I'll be on it as long as they'll have me.    

 
The only flaw I can see from a provider standpoint  is that the lady only has one option for "okaying" a guy... whereas date-check gives you different levels of recommendations to choose from.....  (which only the ladies can see, not the clients)  

Our safety and discretion is equally if not more important than the experience itself and it's a great tool when used properly.   If there is ever a problem with either a client or a provider on there, a person can write to support to at least make them aware of it.  

P411 is one of many screening sites that we NEED to safely hobby.  

I know that when someone contacts me that has two or more okays from ladies that are reputable, it speeds up the appointment setting process by hours or even days, as there is NO WAITING to hear back from a reference request.  

 
I absolutely love p411.  and date-check.   and rs2k.   and ter whitelists.    love them all.  
and I love all the sexy girls and boys who play on this playground with me.  group hug everybody!

 
TGIF!!!  Let the Fun Weekend Begin!!

xxx
Portia Ede

I'll play on your playground anytime you like.

it does seem that most need more info to ok you. not many are newbie friendly.