Any one had these two for a 4-hand.  I am new to this and am just looking for basic info.  The reviews on them sound to good to be true.  Thanks.

Mia (Looks 7.64 / Performance 7.14)
Vivian Smart (Looks 7 / Performance 6.6)

Not exactly "too good to be true". All I can say is that they have been doing it for quite a while with no reviews... which is saying something.

I'd pass.

He's read the reviews, and the reviews are accurate.  The lower scores may have more to do with an idiosyncratic approach and DIY.  I've seen them both (but not together) and they are both very sexy women, Mia in particular.  If she wasn't DIY I'd be a regular. But 4 hands DIY sounds like double frustration to me...

I saw Vivian independently.  DIY, which I am not a fan of.  Nothing special.  Not really erotic.  Sure, it's a half-way-decent looking girl nude and giving a so-so massage before she gets on the table and feigns an orgasm while stroking herself.  If that's how you want to spend your money, go ahead.  You might enjoy.  But do NOT expect anything more or you will be very let down.  (I heard the same about Mia.)