because the very nature of the term means that a hobbyist is trying to impress a lady or ladies so that she/they will do one of three things. 1) Give him some "extras" 2) Give him a lower cost session 3) Think he is a really great guy who deserves her/their special attention
Shilling is not the same as just saying nice and/or encouraging things about a provider. It is not out of the question for providers to ask for nice things to be said about them. But shilling actually makes the provider uncomfortable and used. Here are 3 reason why shilling is not smart and I admit I've done it myself although I've stayed away from it for over 6 months now (once I figured it out). 1)She feels she's being pressured to do more than she wants to. 2)She feels she's being intimidated into giving the shiller a lower entry fee. 3)It makes the hobbyist look like he's about the dimest bulb on the tree.
I saw on a website from a lady a couple of state south of us, that she does not ask for or expect any tips even though they are deeply appretiated. She went on to say that any tips will NOT get you any "extras". From that little message there was a huge piece of insight into her approach as a provider. Once the necessary gratuity is taken care of she is not thinking about the business side anymore and that in her sessions she gives of herself without holding back for more $. Guess what, that's a lady I want to see.
When I posted about another hobbyist possibly shilling the ladies, it caused concern for one to the extent that she took the time to PM me and tell me that she felt attacked. We talked back and forth and it is cleared up. I truly did not have any intent to incinuate that she put the hobbyist up to anything he was writing in his post. I believe her totally and hope she is more comfortable knowing that she was not being implicated at all. She has a great reputation and, understandably, wants it to remain that way.
I was merely using my own abbreviated style to point out how Mr. cmeflyhigh should have considered just whom he might piss off before posting his misguided soapbox rant about shilling.
The only cheap shot was him casting aspersions on VorBlues motivation for his original post and the subject of his one review. For him to publicly berate and trivialize a fellow hobbyist because he only has one review is offensive. There are countless reasons that a hobbyist profile might only have one review associated with it. I won't bother with trying to list them all here. That alone does not make that hobbyist any less relevant than another with a hundred reviews. Not every hobbyist is of the collector variety that wants to see how many different women they can be with and document it for the public. An astute reader could glean from certain details in his post that VorBlues might not publish reviews for every lady he sees.
Every poster to this board has their given right to post whatever opinions they hold about provider rates. Conversely, they should not take exception if someone comes along behind them and exercises their given right to question why they want to come off like cheap asses. This is not a provider friendly board. Look at the other regional boards and you will see this one devotes far more of it's space to public ridicule of provider's rates and services.
From my perspective, cmeflyhigh predictably drew the ire of one of the area's finest and most reputable providers by making an insinuation that could impinge her reputation, even though he seems not to have done so intentionally. When you mess with a provider's reputation, you are messing with her livelihood. Let me repeat in a more genteel way that he is lucky she chose to PM him. Other providers might not be so kind.
Now it is clear exactly what your objection was and why. Before, I don't believe it was. Everyone does indeed have the right to express their opinion and we are certainly going to have differences of opinion. IMHO it's important to explain why and do so in a civil manner lest we end up with more of the flame wars that have periodically erupted around here. Thank you for clarifying your position.
I don't know why I break my own decison to go on the board and post anything. Clearly, Mr. Swearengen (the mystery M/F) you are coming off as a wolf in sheep's clothing. Frankly, I think you are full of negative crap. I should know better than to try to reason with the sorts of you. EOM!
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