some of our best massage ladies are very well connected and will serve as a first stop on the way to verification for a full service provider. And it's a very nice way to spend your lunch hour.
This could also be a newbie post, but I'm posting it in the Minnesota board because I see so little discussion of agencies here and I wonder why that is. (other than the fact that there are some really nice independent providers here)
I spent a couple of years lurking, living vicariously through everyone's adventures. I then embraced the hobby for a few short months before returning again to lurking. I'm considering getting back in, but other than my memberships at two different verification sites, I don't have a lot to make a provider comfortable.
I would like to get feedback on experiences with agencies in general. Of concern is that one agency wants me to provide work information and legal name, presumably in lieu of recent references, and they're not comfortable with the verification sites I use. (P411 and DC) I'm interested in being an infrequent hobbyist, so recent references may always be a problem for me. Two agencies that come to mind are AC and City Girls, but there are others.
I used to consult with a user here on back channels, but I have seen no activity from him in a couple of years. He still has an account, but may be lurking as well.
Do agencies use their information to verify someone and then burn that info or will it always be a risk if the agency is investigated? Are there other options for an infrequent hobbyist when an agency wants to do their own legwork and not rely on a verification service?
Please feel free to PM me if you don't care to make public comments
Thanks
PP
Some may but there have been notable agency busts around the country where LE ended up with a lot of info on the clients of the agency.
not all agencies are reference friendly (however, City Girls is, in my experience...not sure about AC) and not all providers will accept agencies as references.
Both Miami Companions and Desert Divas come to mind in terms of being busted and having lists of clients for LE to review. A news station in Phoenix actually published the entire client list of Desert Divas.
It is very unlikely that being on the list is sufficient to result in you being charged. For example, Desert Divas supposedly had Phil Donahue as a client. Law enforcement would have trouble verifying that an appointment actually took place and that the name used wasn't a pseudonym.
That said, if your name was on their list and the list was published; you could have issues that would make the LE consequences seem trivial.
In fact, quite the opposite... I would assume that agencies almost always keep all your information.
If I am an agency and I get busted, the very last thing on my mind as I contemplate several years in prison is "man, I sure hope my client up in Minnesota is safe." They really have nothing to gain by undertaking the effort of scrubbing their data, and in fact in some cases may have something to lose. I can't imagine an agency EVER getting rid of any of your data.
There is no guarantee that they burn the information once you are verified..
But there is no guarantee that Providers burn the information once you are verified either..
There have been notable agency busts where LE acquired access to client info..
There have been notable Provider busts where LE acquired access to client info ..
If you dont have recent provider references, a verifiable work reference is pretty standard in screening and verification protocols..
Its always good to ask what their procedures are in regards to screening and verification..
And how they handle the process and what they do with that information once its obtained.
And as the client or potential client you have the right to ask and be informed.
For the purpose of giving references , your name, safe email address and safe contact number , with a few lines of notes giving you the "yes would see" or "no would not see" .. is the only thing that should be kept on record, in a secure file with encryption ,, so that the provider or agency can go back and give a reference to whomever the provider or agency that is looking for verification on you.
All other info that was given during that process should be deleted, cleared from history, cookies etc..
When a verifiable work reference is asked for in place of Provider references,
Its the same type of information you would give on a loan/credit application or employment application.
Name, Company Name, position, and number ...
The process that I use, and that I use with my PA clients who I do Screening and Verification for goes like this when I have to use a verifiable work reference::
I ask the client to let me know a good time to call him at work and he will be in his office so that he will answer his phone when I request to be transferred.. and then I explain to the client what I do.
which is this::
I will call your company's main number Identify myself "insert fake name" and ask to be transferred to your office , if the receptionist asks where I am calling from before I am transferred, I say I am calling from "insert major banking name here" ..
If the reception goes further and asks what the call is pertaining to before I am transferred, I say Im calling in regards to some investments that "client name" wanted me to get back to him about ..
If it is employment where you cant take calls at work , then I ask to be transferred to HR for employment verification.. When HR answers, I say I am calling from " Insert Major Bank " to do a verification for the purposes of a credit application.. at which time HR gives the same info they would if someone from a bank was actually calling ,, which is a YES or NO he works here, and because of laws, HR can only verify the info YOU gave on the application and nothing more, which is usually your position in the company, are you currently still working for the company and length of time..
This process is to verify that you are not LE
And I dont have issue explaining that to clients who ask what my procedures are.
I know it seems like a pain in the ass and there is varied opinions in the community about the exchange of information and those who will not verify and those who do not have an issue with verifying..
Thats why its important to deal with reputable verified agencies and reputable verified providers because the chance of your information falling into the wrong hands is lessened..
But its a disservice to tell you that it cant happen, because there is always a risk when it comes to giving out your information to anyone.. Not just in this industry
Its always important to do your research and be proactive before dealing with anyone that you will be giving your information out to ...
~Cat xoxo
And that are newbie friendly. I've also seen many posts by providers who have said, "I have my ways" when talking about how they go about a verification for someone. They will tell you what they need from you and if you don't feel comfortable, you can always tell them so and move on. If you saw a couple of very well reviewed, experienced ladies, you should be able to get some referrals and then your problem is solved.
some of our best massage ladies are very well connected and will serve as a first stop on the way to verification for a full service provider. And it's a very nice way to spend your lunch hour.
I think you might ask the agency to discard your info if you are not using them, they should comply with that request.
some observations:
your info is much less safe in the hands of an agency than it is in the hands of a reputable provider.
info does not provide security, for you or the provider, it provides insurance and is likely to be treated that way. so don't give it. later on it will be much more valuable to you that a woman with a great rep can say, "he's a really good, fun, safe guy," than that she can say, "he works at such and such a place."
no two agencies are the same. don't generalize about them or their methods or trustworthiness.
plenty of them are staffed by scam artists and idiots.
lastly, there are a couple of prime examples (of scam artists and idiots running agencies) in Minnesota.