Minnesota

verify procedures
miraggio 2778 reads
posted
1 / 19

It has happened a few times recently so I am looking for some advice.  What should a hobbyist do when he submits info for verification and gets no reply?  Do I assume that the provider is not interested or should I contact her again?
Ladies, your thoughts would be appreciated.

RealP4U 57 Reviews 1153 reads
posted
2 / 19

Why bother with verification, when there are hundreds of well reviewed providers, with excellent service and reputations,  who don't require a drawn out process.  I certainly don't begrudge anyone who requires verification, or men who are willing to take the time to submit the information.  I am merely suggesting that there really are so many other choices.  

And, getting verified is no guarantee of a better session either.  Just because a woman requires your personal information doesn't make her an elite companion, as some men seem to think.

But, you make a very good point, that after you have taken the time to jump through some hoops, the least the provider could do is respond with a yes or no.

remylively See my TER Reviews 1379 reads
posted
3 / 19

Verification has nothing to do with being an "elite companion," dude. It has to do with me not ending up in a dumpster somewhere at the end of the night. Or a jail cell for that matter.

Thanks RealP4U for just solidifying your #1 spot on my DNS list! :)

And to the OP:  Often I don't respond to emails if I can't get ahold of the references, or if I just wasn't given enough information to screen well. But I have been known to let the occasional contact forms slip by unnoticed because of the sheer volume of emails I get. I would check back with her if I were you.

RealP4U 57 Reviews 1508 reads
posted
4 / 19

Sorry, Remy. You obviously missed my message. I was ONLY suggesting that there are hundreds of options for someone who doesn't want to go through the verification process.  I clearly stated you and others have the right to require verification.  

The majority of women in the Twin Cities don't require it, and so far, I have not heard of any of them ended up in dumpsters.

And, please, feel free to add me to your DNS list. It will certainly not effect either of our lives very much.

hungry1951 29 Reviews 1365 reads
posted
5 / 19

and I have mine. I will never use an appointment form. Aside from being too impersonal, there is always the "no reply" possibility, and you don't know where your information has gone. I will send an initial email, introducing myself, and telling the lady a day and time that I'm interested in. I will let her know what sites I'm a member of, and that I will happily provide any screening information that she needs. If I get a positive reply, then I will give her my TER handle, and usernames for the other sites. I never include personal information in the first email. I will usually wait a day or two for a reply. If I don't get one, I will try one more time, and move on.

If that's not good enough, then another lady will get my money, and a nice dinner.

PerkyJumblies 915 reads
posted
6 / 19

Where do you feel the information from an appointment form could go that information in an email wouldn't?   How is it less likely that the "no reply" possibility associated with a form could occur with an email?   The information you mentioned you typically include in an email is pretty much what most ladies ask for on their forms.  If what they are requesting is of a more private and sensitive nature,  I can certainly understand, but I have yet to see that.  I would think it more rare than common from my observations.

That said, I do agree forms can be impersonal, unless there is a field to include room for an introduction.  As a provider I would probably accept an email that included the pertinent information but would still feel a little apprehensive if the initial contact was not made in the way I requested it, especially if no more information is being asked on the form than what is included in the email.

TheLapDoctor 1019 reads
posted
7 / 19

Don't give up your dreams! Remember, when the going gets tough, the tough, they get going!! Reach for the moon, because if you miss, YOU'RE STILL AMONG THE STARS!!

So what if she doesn't respond to your email? Maybe she feels you haven't spent the proper amount of time on the ignore list.

I say keep trying dude, send that email plea. Every day. If it takes a year, if it takes 10 years, so be it!

One day she will have to respond. And when she finally does, you can tell her, it was because you cared.

vorlon 119 Reviews 1328 reads
posted
8 / 19

he wants to establish contact with her (i.e., get a response) before sending in any personal information.

PerkyJumblies 1281 reads
posted
9 / 19

Yes and no--read it again.  He did day he wanted to establish contact by email before sending any personal information, that is true.  He also said he will never use an appointment form.  He then goes on to list what he will include in his first email.  That information is what is already on the majority of most appointment forms I have ever seen.  I did state if there is more personal information requested it is understandable to prefer establishing contact first.  But if not, why bypass the provider's requested means of contact and then write her off if she doesn't respond?

HaveACokeAndASmileDude 1402 reads
posted
10 / 19

Once you've sent an email with your references I'd wait for a reply from her before harrassing her.  Some ladies (with very good reason) get annoyed and/or find multiple emails as "stalker-ish" whether it's warranted or not.  

If you wait a couple of days and she still hasn't gotten in touch with you, leave her one email saying "I really would like to see you, I already sent you all the info you requested, is there anything wrong with the info I sent you.." ect.  

On a side note about why ladies verify and what it means to hobbyists:

LE makes calls to gals to get them into hotel rooms on short notice or sometimes in advance depending on the situation. When people call and want short notice, it immediately raises flags for providers so to be safe, get verified by ladies you'd like to see in the future.  If you'd like to do a short notice appointment, see a gal you've seen several times.

Ladies who like to let just anyone into their beds without being screened are RECKLESS and should be ignored. It will catch up with them, mark my words.

If you'd prefer to not share any info with them which seems far to personal to you, sent everything they need but keep in as vague as you can then promise to share it with them on a need to know basis.  If someone wants to know your first and last name, give them first name with a last initial at first.  If they request the name of your business, give the type of business and ask for the relivence if you must then decide if its something you're comfortable with.

If you've sent everything to a gal who is not getting back to you, start sending it to two gals you'd like to see.  This way one is bound to get back to you and if they both do, well then you're good to go for your next afternoon delight with the other gal! If one doesn't, no loss as you've found a gal who actually WANTS your time and money.

Hopefully this helps.  I no master of the life-style but it's something to hopefully help.


vorlon 119 Reviews 1055 reads
posted
11 / 19

Well, I read it as though in part he simply doesn't like the appointment forms.  I can actually understand that; I would rather send an e-mail because I get a copy of that in my sent folder in case for some reason I want to refer to what I actually typed.

As far as writing her off goes, lots of guys will only put so much effort into trying to make contact with someone before they move onto someone else.  After all, if I'm trying to get an appointment within a certain window of time and I'm not getting a response from my first choice I don't want to wait too long to consider other ladies.  And I don't think it necessarily means he wouldn't try again at some future date.

PerkyJumblies 724 reads
posted
12 / 19

Sending an email with the exact same info that is on a form doesn't take any more effort.  And sending a form doesn't mean you have less likelihood of getting an appointment within a certain window of time than an email.  The point is, why write someone off just because they request you contact them via a form and not an email?     There might actually be reasons for this.

hungry1951 29 Reviews 664 reads
posted
13 / 19

Some ladies will ask for personal information, such as work verification, although I admit, I haven't had to give that information for a long time. Vorlon hit it pretty closely. As I said, I will send the initial email, introduce myself, let the lady know a day and time that I'm interested in, and usually let her know that my time is somewhat flexible. My main reason for not using forms is simply that we are both doing some screening to a certain degree. I always tell the lady what verification sites and review sites I belong to, and will provide references, if she requires them as well. A few years ago, I did use the forms, and it was amazing how many ladies just did not respond at all, or would take days to respond. This tells me that the possibility exists that this particular lady could be a bit flaky, and may not be as careful as I'd like with my information. I'm always a gentleman, and always respectful in my emails, and am only asking the same in return. Ladies use their sixth sense as part of their screening, and some of us guys do the same.

Now, for the example, a couple of years ago, I filled out a form for a lady that I wanted to see, during a trip to Florida. I got no response, so two days later, I resubmitted the form, then followed it up with an email the following day. Still, I got no response. I figured that she wasn't available, or chose not to see me. Although a little note telling me to go fuck myself would have been nice, I accepted it. Then, I finally got a response. It came after I had already returned home, nearly a week after the day I had requested on her form. She said that she would love to meet with me, and that she was free on the day I had requested. That's the kind of flaky I would like to avoid.

Not trying to be an asshole, only trying to be safe. As it turns out, I learned from later posts on the Florida board, that this lady was quite careless, and is no longer around.

PerkyJumblies 2131 reads
posted
14 / 19

Not all of us do that.  It is unfortunate that the bad habits of some providers are reflected upon others.

hungry1951 29 Reviews 1522 reads
posted
15 / 19

that the lady I was talking about is the exception, and not the rule. I only do things the way I do them because it works. I don't recall any lady ever saying that she wouldn't see me because I didn't fill out her form. I've found that nice, polite emails work very well.

craiglist4 48 Reviews 662 reads
posted
16 / 19

Is that it seems some of them are canned modules that come with the standardized site.  When a gal asks me a question in an email she composed, then I know she really wants to know.  When I see the forms I wonder how much of it is important to her.  Clearly I don't like putting out any more info than is required.

hungry1951 29 Reviews 1301 reads
posted
17 / 19

is that any information that you put on the form does not belong to the lady. It is owned by whoever is hosting the site.

fran5975 2 Reviews 864 reads
posted
18 / 19

I am a VERY new newbie. I have No problem with verification but what I do have a problem with is give CC information. I did it once to get the contact information and got forwarded to a Russian WEBcam site ate 4 bucks a minute.

I want everyone to be comfortable but I also don't want to get robbed either.

I didn't know about this site so I am learning.

cadman34 1 Reviews 926 reads
posted
19 / 19

I whole-heartedly agree that providers need to verify our identities before they see us for the first time. If we are new they have no way in knowing who we are or how we will treat them. In my book, their feeling of being safe is the most important thing. I won't contact a provider who doesn't have several decent reviews so I'm already pretty confident about what I will be getting into. They should be able feel the same way.

I also have to say that it kind of sucks giving preliminary information that is requested on an ad or website and then never hearing back. Ladies, I totally respect your right to not want to see me for ANY reason you see fit, but I would love to get aa basic e-mail or phone message that just says "I'm sorry _____, I am just not interested in seeing you". I might be disappointed, but at least I'll know to move on and won't bother you again. I also won't take it personnally.

All that being said, things worked out great and I'm actualy glad the providers I contacted earlier didn't call me back because I kept looking and found an awesome provider to spend time with. Had I met one of the original ones I tried to contact, I never would have met the beautiful, intelligent, sweet, and sexy provider that I had the pleasure of spending time with this past weekend.

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